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dan
02-17-2007, 11:55 AM
Sa mga miyembro ng TF,

Nais ko po sanang hingin ang suporta at tulong ninyo para masiguro na may mahusay at matatag tayong boses sa senado. Taglay ni CHIZ ESCUDERO ang mga matagal na nating hinahanap sa mga lider natin: tapat na pagsisilbi para sa bayan, katatagan at disiplina, talino at katapangan na harapin ang mga hamon para sa mas magandang kinabukasan ng Pilipinas.

Sa mga gustong maging volunteer para sa kampanya ni Chiz, pwede po tayong mag-register sa kanyang website:
http://www.chizescudero.com/chiz/index.php

Pwede rin nating iparating mismo sa kanya ang ating suporta sa Friendster:
http://www.friendster.com/36944990

Mga naisulat tungkol kay Chiz
Sa Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Escudero

Sa Inquirer
http://news.inquirer.net/sunday/index.php?index=2&story_id=38521&col=85


Maraming salamat.

sharpener
02-17-2007, 12:44 PM
wow! ang gwapo naman nya, makalaglag p..... as in pustiso

pwede po bang malaman ang views nya regarding OFWs?

dan
02-17-2007, 02:15 PM
Maraming salamat, Sharpener.

Excerpt sa on-line press conference ni Chiz nung Tuesday (Feb. 13) sa yehey.com:

<andjiwer> Do u have any progams for OFWs?
<Guest_Chiz> Yes. Protection and security to our nationals working abroad, fair terms of employment and forward-looking policies to predict labor demands from abroad.

For more, kindly visit:
http://www.yehey.com/chat/chatevent.aspx?id=67

Sa case ni Rey Cortez, isang kababayan natin na mekaniko sa Saudi, tumulong si Chiz para iligtas ang kanyang buhay.
http://www.prisontalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130 310

houseboy
02-17-2007, 03:27 PM
Chiz... Say CHIZU!!!;)

Hope he will not fall into the "pit".

I think he will win.

My family will definitely vote for him.;)

scorpionight
02-17-2007, 03:58 PM
Yes.,He'll probably win.,we need someone like him in the goverment..

joeblack
02-17-2007, 04:33 PM
Yes.,He'll probably win.,we need someone like him in the goverment..


I am sure that Chiz will win one of the seats in the Senate. I am one of the millions who will support and vote for his candidacy.... Goodluck !!!!!

purpletablet
02-17-2007, 07:02 PM
count me in! :D

i do believe that he'll win this fight coz he has proven so much! his composure and right disposition in times of pressure is one of his best traits that i really admire. :D

go go chiz!

dianne
02-17-2007, 07:08 PM
my family & I definitely vote for Chiz magaling talaga sya :)

obet2
02-17-2007, 08:06 PM
isa rin ako para kay chiz e.,palagay ko magaling sya at mananalo.

Soju6
02-17-2007, 08:26 PM
Oh, and my dad was on the right side for the longest time,
until Marcos left." - Chiz Escudero

A spokesman for FPJ and a pro ERAP

Maawa na po kayo sa Pilipinas, Mag isip muna po tayo ng mabuti bago tayo mag desisyon kung sino ang iboboto ninyo.:bonk: :cry:

houseboy
02-17-2007, 09:54 PM
Oh, and my dad was on the right side for the longest time,
until Marcos left." - Chiz Escudero

A spokesman for FPJ and a pro ERAP

Maawa na po kayo sa Pilipinas, Mag isip muna po tayo ng mabuti bago tayo mag desisyon kung sino ang iboboto ninyo.:bonk: :cry:

Sino naman po sa tingin mo ang karapatdapat na iboto? Sino po sa tingin mo ang makakapagpaganda ng kalagayan ng Pilipinas?:)

Iyo nang sabihin kabayan, at baka isa ako sa mahihikayat mo.;)

purpletablet
02-17-2007, 10:03 PM
Oh, and my dad was on the right side for the longest time,
until Marcos left." - Chiz Escudero

A spokesman for FPJ and a pro ERAP

Maawa na po kayo sa Pilipinas, Mag isip muna po tayo ng mabuti bago tayo mag desisyon kung sino ang iboboto ninyo.:bonk: :cry:

sa tingin ko isa ssi chiz sa mga matitinong kandidato!kau po sino ang iboboto mo? si richard gomez ba?:D bagong kandidato siya .. baka gusto nyo po subukan :D

*peace*

Soju6
02-17-2007, 10:53 PM
[I]Wala ho akong ii-endorse na kandidato para yun ang iboto ninyo.
Ang ipapakiusap ko lang sana ay pag isipan ninyong mabuti o kilalaning
mabuti kung sino ang iboboto ninyo.

Marunong? Topnotcher sa School?Magaling sa pulitika? Hindi po ito ang
basehan. Yun ho ang mga katangian ni “Hitler”. Mabuti sana kung sa kabutihan gagamitin. Magandang lalake, bata? :bonk: Wow naman…..maawa naman kayo sa pilipinas.

Para sa akin …uulitin ko, “para sa akin” lang......... yung taong ka-grupo ng mga magnanakaw, taong gumagamit ng Popular na artista para makarating din sa itaas
dapat ay….kayo na lang ang mag isip kung anong nararapat gawin sa kanila.

houseboy
02-17-2007, 11:29 PM
[i]Wala ho akong ii-endorse na kandidato para yun ang iboto ninyo.
Ang ipapakiusap ko lang sana ay pag isipan ninyong mabuti o kilalaning
mabuti kung sino ang iboboto ninyo.

Marunong? Topnotcher sa School?Magaling sa pulitika? Hindi po ito ang
basehan. Yun ho ang mga katangian ni “Hitler”. Mabuti sana kung sa kabutihan gagamitin. Magandang lalake, bata? :bonk: Wow naman…..maawa naman kayo sa pilipinas.

Para sa akin …uulitin ko, “para sa akin” lang......... yung taong ka-grupo ng mga magnanakaw, taong gumagamit ng Popular na artista para makarating din sa itaas
dapat ay….kayo na lang ang mag isip kung anong nararapat gawin sa kanila.

Hmmm.... kung ganun po, wala na pong pwedeng iboto.:D

Eleksyon sa pinas, parang pelikula. Pwede tayo mamili sa kanila.

The GOOD (hindi garapal mangurakot)
The BAD (mas garapal pa sa garapal)
and the UGLY (nasusuya tayo sa pagmumukha kaya artista na lang boboto natin, at least telegenic kapag na-interview sa TV).
:eek:

Yafuung yafuu!!!

purpletablet
02-18-2007, 12:07 AM
[i]Wala ho akong ii-endorse na kandidato para yun ang iboto ninyo.
Ang ipapakiusap ko lang sana ay pag isipan ninyong mabuti o kilalaning
mabuti kung sino ang iboboto ninyo.

Marunong? Topnotcher sa School?Magaling sa pulitika? Hindi po ito ang
basehan. Yun ho ang mga katangian ni “Hitler”. Mabuti sana kung sa kabutihan gagamitin. Magandang lalake, bata? :bonk: Wow naman…..maawa naman kayo sa pilipinas.

Para sa akin …uulitin ko, “para sa akin” lang......... yung taong ka-grupo ng mga magnanakaw, taong gumagamit ng Popular na artista para makarating din sa itaas
dapat ay….kayo na lang ang mag isip kung anong nararapat gawin sa kanila.


wala naman pong itulak kabigin sa mga kandidato sa atin.. ung sa administrasyon tingnan nyo ang line up... sa oposisyon.. ang hirap pumili nang ibobotong karapatdapat... sana po kayo na lang ang tumakbo para at least may choice pa kami :D

eh di para malinawan po kami sa iboboto namin bakit hindi po kayo magbigay ng katangian ng mga karapat-dapat iboto.... tingnan natin kung sino sa mga kandidato ang qualified..:D

dan
02-18-2007, 02:10 AM
[i]Wala ho akong ii-endorse na kandidato para yun ang iboto ninyo.
Ang ipapakiusap ko lang sana ay pag isipan ninyong mabuti o kilalaning
mabuti kung sino ang iboboto ninyo.



Tama po si Soju6, kilalanin nating mabuti kung sinu-sino ang mga iboboto natin. Pareho rin po kaming naniniwala na ang talino ay dapat gamitin sa kabutihan.

Tungkol naman sa "wish" natin na magkaroon ng "Good and quality education para sa mga mahihirap" (Mula kay Liong), eto po ay isa sa mga naging priorities at mananatiling priority ni Chiz:

"Pagkakataon ng kabataang Pilipino na makapag-aral at makapagtapos mula mababang paaralan hanggang sa kolehiyo sa pamamagitan ng pagbibigay ng sapat na pondo sa mga state colleges at universities, kaagapay ang pagkilala sa mahalagang papel na ginagampanan ng pribadong sektor sa larangan ng edukasyon;" http://www.chizescudero.com/chiz/aboutChiz.php?act=pl atform

Para po mas makilala natin si Chiz, pahintulutan ninyo sana akong i-qoute ang isang Inquirer article tungol sa kanya na isinulat ni Alya B. Honasan:

Editor's Note: Published on page Q1 of the May 29, 2005 issue of the Philippine Daily Inquirer

IT'S VERY difficult to call him "Congressman," mainly because he really does look like a kid. Even his mannerisms are much younger than his 35 years; he flashes a picture of himself with Senator Mar Roxas—"the President and the Vice President," he says, poker-faced—before exclaiming "JOKE!" and chuckling naughtily. We ask him to walk away from us, down the center of the session hall, for a photograph, and he dances a jig. It's so much fun it's cute.

And therein lies the danger of underestimating Francis Joseph "Chiz" Escudero, third-term congressman, House Minority Leader, spokesman of the late Fernando Poe Jr. and, by every reckoning, an astute politician with a bright future ahead of him, simply because you think he's just cute.

"What would you do if you were president?" might seem like a cute question for a schoolboy, but Escudero is no longer a greenhorn, often driving more flustered debate opponents to their wits' end with his uncanny cool. "That effect may be intentional,"he says in his office at the Batasang Pambansa, putting out his nth stick of Marlboro Lights, a habit he acquired while campaigning (along with drinking gin) and which he says he'll kick "soon, soon." "Whenever a person loses his cool, he can no longer think straight, and you already have an edge."

So doesn't he ever blow his top? "I do. Basic injustice makes me mad, when you don't get your due from someone who is arrogant, or who thinks or feels he knows everything." Still, Escudero insists, "I know it's only words, and that's as far as it will go. I have a frail body, I'm not about to pick a fight, or I might get the living daylights beaten out of me. I know my limitations." Indeed, at 5'8" and 150 lbs, 10 lbs below his ideal, Escudero must be one of a handful of underweight legislators in the Philippine Congress.

Maybe it's because he apparently works hard. Escudero's day usually starts at 6:30 a.m. with an interview, and ends at 8:30 p.m. after his radio show on DZMM, where he dispenses legal advice in flawless Filipino, a language he seems more at home with than English, in spite of the Master's Degree in International and Comparative Law he earned from the Georgetown University Law Center in Washington D.C. in 1996.

Escudero is on his last term, which ends in 2007. "Three years is too short for a good official, too long for a bad one," he says, talking fast and clear. "Four is ideal. I feel tired-I used to have only five white hairs!-but I still want to find out, at age 35, if this will still be my career path or whether I should move to the private sector. I wouldn't want to reach 50 still hoping to be something in government which I can never be."

Some ego

He confirms, however, that he is looking ahead. "In 2007, I will run for the Senate just to know. I'm not saying I won't cry or get drunk if I lose, but the upside of it is at least I will know, and I still have time to do something productive." Not that he hasn't been that, says this University of the Philippines 1993 law graduate, honor society officer and erstwhile law teacher who, by his own admission, is often accused of false humility. "I like to think I've done fairly well, and the best evidence I have is that I was elected three times by my constituents. But yes, although I went into politics because I felt I could do what I thought was right, some ego is involved. I'm not good at writing, I'd rather say it than write it. And as they say, if you can't write the book, then just get written about. We all want to live forever, and I want to be remembered for having done something for the country as a whole."

This early, though, the reviews are raves. Escudero was one of the pro-Estrada "bright boys" of the 11th Congress, whose "rapid way of speaking, yet sober tone and soft-eyed demeanor stood out amid the taunting and tiresome spiels mouthed by some of his more senior peers in the House of Representatives or Senate," the Inquirer's Volt Contreras reported in 2004. There was that famous incident of a woman in the gallery saying, "Sayang, you're young, bright and eloquent but you're always on the wrong side." "Slight correction, ma'am," Escudero replied. "I disagree that I'm on the wrong side. I'm just not on your side." Indeed, Escudero was perceived as one of the best things about the FPJ campaign. The late stage director Bibot Amador wrote a column about a lunch where "a surprising number of people expressed a lot of admiration for young opposition congressman Francis 'Chiz' Escudero... If I can sum up the chorus of assent, the opinion givers all saw him as a responsible oppositionist during the Congressional canvassing on TV. He may have been for FPJ but he showed intelligence, calm, reasonableness, and in one so young, projected much of what is considered 'statesmanlike.'"

Even his political polar opposite, Environment Secretary Mike Defensor, has admitted in previous interviews that Escudero is "very competent. He's very eloquent and articulate but as the saying goes, in a fight between good and evil, good will always triumph. It's not so much that I have an advantage over Chiz, just that in my and in many people's perception, I am on the good side."

Nothing plastic

"When he talks, he doesn't waste anybody's time," says Rep. Noynoy Aquino, another legislator whom Escudero considers a friend despite their divergent political backgrounds. "During that whole prelude to Edsa III, he never resorted to rabble-rousing or hysteria. We have never voted on the same side on any issue, but we both have the same goal, and that's the good of the Filipino people." As a friend, Escudero is "true and honest," Aquino says. "There's nothing plastic about him." If people do find fault with him, it may be because "he sometimes jokes a little too much, although he's mellowed down a lot," Aquino says with a laugh. "Sobrang alaskador (too much of a wiseacre), so he rubs people the wrong way. They think he's mayabang (arrogant). I think most people who have derogatory things to say, though, are just envious. Once, one fellow was so pikon he even told Chiz's father about it!"

Not that Dad would have interfered. Salvador "Sonny" Escudero III, Secretary of Agriculture during the Marcos years and now doing consultancy work, is "less influential with me than people would like to believe," Escudero fils says. "My dad never encouraged me to join politics. Even when he was in Congress we were prohibited from coming over. He didn't want us to be perceived as trying to influence him. Since I was elected in 1998, he has never been to my office. It's sad, but I appreciate it." They have different management styles, the younger Escudero says. "I'm more hands-on, my dad likes to delegate. I use my gut more."

Finally the candidate

Yet, it was the elder Escudero, actually a veterinarian by training, who introduced his second child to the political life. "In 1984, I was part of the postering brigade in my dad's campaign for assemblyman. In 1987, I handled the youth; in 1992, I handled the headquarters and arranged logistics. In 1995, I handled last minute operations, and in 1998, I was finally the candidate!"

And what of the allegation that both father and son were on "the wrong side"? "I don't think anyone can judge me right now. Winning doesn't necessarily mean you're right. History will be a better judge of that. But that's the beauty of democracy-you believe what you believe, I believe what I believe, and as long as we're not hurting each other, that's fine. Placing a value judgement on a person's beliefs has no place in a democracy. Oh, and my dad was on the right side for the longest time, until Marcos left."

Escudero was born and raised in Manila, the middle of three children, although trips back home to Sorsogon were frequent. His mother Evelina Guevara used to teach at the UP College of Home Economics, and still teaches at OB Montessori. His older brother Philip is a photographer, and younger sister Bernadette is in the food business. He was neither a geek nor a jock-"I didn't get good grades"-but remembers living in a compound with some 13 cousins who christened him "Tot" and made patintero a backyard staple. "My problem was, until my third year in high school I was about 4 foot 6," Escudero recalls. "My growth spurt kicked in only in my senior year. I was always the kid who had to squat in front for class picture."

Although his was a closely-knit family,, "We're not good at expressing ourselves," Escudero says. "We're not malambing (affectionate). I do regret that I don't remember the last time I said 'I love you' to my mom or dad. We were brought up, maybe unintentionally, to be embarrassed about these things. But that doesn't mean the feeling is not there."
Sonny Escudero will run for the seat his son will be vacating in 2007.

Complete opposites

The lack of lambing, Escudero laughs, made his then proposal to wife Christine Alfonso a lackluster event. "I hadn't watched all those romantic movies yet." Escudero met the singer and stage actress when she was performing in the Sulu Hotel's Diwata Lounge, and they were together for five years before tying the knot in 1999, with the late FPJ as one of the godfathers. "We're complete opposites," Escudero says of the attraction. "I don't have an artistic bone in my body, while her whole body is a work of art, in and of itself. She sang during my campaign, and that saved me a lot on talent fees," he says with a chuckle. Christine had an ectopic pregnancy a few years back, and working on a family will require some time off, Escudero says. "I like kids. I think I'd make a good dad, given the opportunity." Christine now runs her own music school for children in Quezon City, and the couple makes their home in a humble townhouse.

When he's not working, Escudero is likely to be at a friend's shop tinkering with old cars-he's the proud owner of a 1969 Mister Slim two-door top-down Mercedes and a 1987 Range Rover-or at the firing range with his .45 caliber guns. "I like shooting. I would want to compete someday. As for old cars, it's part of the thrill, not knowing whether or not you'll get to your destination!" Private time means "not being bothered by this gadget"-he holds up his cellphone in mock disgust-"and that means traveling." He and Christine were in Thailand last Holy Week, where Escudero rode his first elephant. Although he bikes to the gym, the lanky Bicolano is an avowed carnivore who wolfs down inasal, adobo, tinola and crispy pata, excesses which haven't taken their toll-"My last executive check-up was perfect"-and which don't show when he's in his usual tight-fitting sport shirt and jeans. "If I can get away with not wearing a barong, I will, even if I'm sometimes accused of not giving respect to an occasion because I'm not in formal wear." Oh, and the glasses he now wears are just shades-"pa-cute," he reveals-as he just got his nearsighted eyes lasered.

Left of center

Female fans didn't seem to mind even the glasses, as Escudero often gets recognized when he's occasionally driving himself around with his single bodyguard. "It's ego-boosting, flattering, but that's as far as it will get, as I'm too scared to bring it a step further. Just thinking about getting into trouble gives me a headache. Seriously-but only because there's a tape recorder on," he laughs again.

Does he really want to become president? "A barangay captain who says he doesn't think about it is lying through his teeth. Should it come, I won't shirk from that responsibility, I'm not afraid of it. Do I aspire for it? At the proper time perhaps. Do I want to be? That's why my then fraternity brods beat the hell out of me. I had the gall to say I wanted to become President!" The interesting part is, Escudero views his own politics as left of center. "Regardless of what the Left says, or how they've been branded, they're the ones with a truly clear-cut platform based on patriotism and nationalism. Nobody seems to be espousing that kind of idea in government." So where did the rightist perception come from? "Well, I'm a reserve in the Philippine Navy," he says with a smile. "If you say I'm demanding more government intervention, yes, I am. Is that rightist? Not necessarily. The basic question is, if you were in control, how would you run the zoo?"

And how would Chiz Escudero run the zoo? "The root of our problem is money. Ask for a debt moratorium. A moratorium for five years is P500 billion in free money, breathing space, and would solve a lot of problems as far as basic needs are concerned. PAGCOR should be abolished, PCSO should be abolished or reoriented, address corruption in the BIR and Customs..." He goes on before putting out a final cigarette, then smiles before speaking slowly, pointedly. "And as President, do not steal."

dan
02-18-2007, 02:56 AM
houseboy, scorpionight, joe black, purple tablet, dianne, obet2, marami pong salamat. siguraduhin din natin na mananalo si Chiz sa Pilipinas, hindi lang dito sa Japan. :)

soju6, sa tingin ko pare-pareho tayong pinagpapahalagaan ang kabutihan ng ating bayan. 'Sabi nga ni late Bibot Amador tungkol kay Chiz bilang miyembro ng opposition,

"... If I can sum up the chorus of assent, the opinion givers all saw him as a responsible oppositionist during the Congressional canvassing on TV. He may have been for FPJ but he showed intelligence, calm, reasonableness, and in one so young, projected much of what is considered "statesmanlike." The conclusion in most of the minds was that Chiz Escudero has a bright future ahead of him.

Indeed, the TV coverage of the last Congressional canvass left many viewers, including this one, impressed with Francis Escudero. He certainly showed a lot of cool. Though his pleas for his cause were impassioned enough, he put a lot of older politicians to shame with his ability to grasp issues and situations quickly and to articulate his views well.

One admirer even said, "What a pity he’s not with the administration." With that, however, I differ. There is a need, in any democracy, for responsible opposition – people who speak up when things are obviously wrong but who cooperate when the national interest is at stake. For that, you need truly honest men. Not only financially honest but mentally honest, so that it is not self-interest that prevails, as so often happens...."

dan
02-18-2007, 09:31 AM
Para naman po sa mga "magnanakaw, etc." innuendos, tanungin po natin: nandaya ba o kaya nagnakaw si Chiz? Sa dami ng pro-administration na congressmen at sa tindi ng galit siguro ni Mike Arroyo, ni isang kaso sa ethics committee o sa kahit saang korte, walang silang maisampa laban kay Chiz.

Mga katangian ng kailangan natin na lider:

1) Matalino ngunit hindi mandaraya at magnanakaw
2) Matatag at matapang na ipaglaban ang tama kahit parang wala nang pag-asa
3) Hindi balimbing

joeblack
02-18-2007, 10:23 AM
Para naman po sa mga "magnanakaw, etc." innuendos, tanungin po natin: nandaya ba o kaya nagnakaw si Chiz? Sa dami ng pro-administration na congressmen at sa tindi ng galit siguro ni Mike Arroyo, ni isang kaso sa ethics committee o sa kahit saang korte, walang silang maisampa laban kay Chiz.

Mga katangian ng kailangan natin na lider:

1) Matalino ngunit hindi mandaraya at magnanakaw
2) Matatag at matapang na ipaglaban ang tama kahit parang wala nang pag-asa
3) Hindi balimbing

@ Dan san, another one qualities of a good candidate is being cause oriented. He fights for the right of the common-tao and not for his own interests.... Popularity also contributes a lot for the success of any politicians.... I knew some politicians who are good in speaking engagements but not to their jobs. Always made promises but not materialized.... They are good critics to rampant corruptions in our burueacracy and of the Arroyo government, but where they are now? A member of the unity-team of the administration whom they accused of graft and corruptions? Beware to support this kind of old politicians for they might be a member of the silent committee once elected into power....

sharpener
02-18-2007, 11:54 AM
needless to say, he is perfectly fit for the senate

Mr. Dan isa pa pong tanong,
Is it valid if i vote him as Chiz Escudero or do i have to write his full name
anu-ano po ba mga (valid) alias nya...senya na po, kulang po kami sa impormasyon e (ay! ako lang pala)

joeblack
02-18-2007, 12:58 PM
needless to say, he is perfectly fit for the senate

Mr. Dan isa pa pong tanong,
Is it valid if i vote him as Chiz Escudero or do i have to write his full name
anu-ano po ba mga (valid) alias nya...senya na po, kulang po kami sa impormasyon e (ay! ako lang pala)


according to the OMNIBUS Election code, valid ang mga votes using aliases which was being registered by the candidate. If voting only Chiz Escudero, the vote will be counted to chiz escudero for no other candidate bears that name. In case there is another person bearing the name Chiz Escudero and an incumbent then the vote will be counted in favor of the incumbent. You can also vote only escudero. If ever you will vote only for francis then the vote will be counted for Pangilinan because he is an incumbent... Hope it clarified your inquiry....

sharpener
02-18-2007, 05:35 PM
salamat Mr. Joeblack,
yan nga po ang gusto kong linawin ni Mr. Dan
kung ano ang mga aliases ni chiz escudero na naka rehistro para sa kanya
sa dami ng iboboto mabuti na ang maliwanag kaysa malabo

Soju6
02-18-2007, 06:36 PM
sigh* .... kawawa naman ang pinas...

Soju6
02-18-2007, 07:03 PM
Oh, and my dad was on the right side for the longest time,
until Marcos left." - Chiz Escudero
Chiz Escudero - A spokesman for FPJ and a pro ERAP
____________________ ____________________ ____________________ ______

Kung hindi po ninyo naiintindihan nag ibig sabihin ng nakasulat sa itaas....:bonk:
It is safe to say na .....wala na talagang pag asa pang makabangon ang pilipinas.

scorpionight
02-18-2007, 07:43 PM
Oh, and my dad was on the right side for the longest time,
until Marcos left." - Chiz Escudero
Chiz Escudero - A spokesman for FPJ and a pro ERAP
____________________ ____________________ ____________________ ______

Kung hindi po ninyo naiintindihan nag ibig sabihin ng nakasulat sa itaas....:bonk:
It is safe to say na .....wala na talagang pag asa pang makabangon ang pilipinas.

Soju6 san,you have the right to say what you want to say but lets not forget that pedro is not juan and vise versa,besides Mr.Poe was dead huwag na nating isama dito,he cant defend his side anymore,And for Mr.Estrada as i know the case still in court..
What I mean to say is we cant judge him right now,his just starting...give him the benefits of the doubt..
Peace...

sharpener
02-18-2007, 08:08 PM
lets give him a chance...
para sa akin it doesnt matter kung pro erap sya or pro gloria....whatever
ang mahalaga, naniniwala akong may pagmamahal sya sa bayan
at kayang nyang ipaglaban kung anuman ang alam nyang tama at makabubuti para sa bayan

joeblack
02-18-2007, 08:27 PM
lets give him a chance...
para sa akin it doesnt matter kung pro erap sya or pro gloria....whatever
ang mahalaga, naniniwala akong may pagmamahal sya sa bayan
at kayang nyang ipaglaban kung anuman ang alam nyang tama at makabubuti para sa bayan


Lahat ng tao ay may iba't-ibang pananaw sa buhay. kahit kadugo mo eto pero iba ang ipinaglalabang principle kaya huwag husgahan ang tao.... Don't judge the book by its cover. How obselete the book but it contains very important informations that is useful to everyone.... A person who hails from a family of politicians might have other views and look out in politics different to that of his roots.... Why not give him the chance? If ever he will be lucky to have a seat in the senate; just watch his actions and condemned him if his actuations is beyond your expectations....Ever yone has the right to express his opinion and ideals as fighting with his principles but not with human fists...

purpletablet
02-18-2007, 08:29 PM
Oh, and my dad was on the right side for the longest time,
until Marcos left." - Chiz Escudero
Chiz Escudero - A spokesman for FPJ and a pro ERAP
____________________ ____________________ ____________________ ______

Kung hindi po ninyo naiintindihan nag ibig sabihin ng nakasulat sa itaas....:bonk:
It is safe to say na .....wala na talagang pag asa pang makabangon ang pilipinas.


well sa tingin ko, ikaw lang ang nagsasabi na wala ng pag-asa pang makabangon ang pilipinas.. in that case, u better change ur citizenship :p

joeblack
02-18-2007, 08:41 PM
well sa tingin ko, ikaw lang ang nagsasabi na wala ng pag-asa pang makabangon ang pilipinas.. in that case, u better change ur citizenship :p


@ purpletablet san, ang puso mo!!!! Huwag masyadong dibdibin....Anyway, hinde natin masisi ang bawat isa sa mga pangyayaring nagaganap sa ating bansa.... We can't blame anyone for what is happening in our own country. There are some honest government officials but has nothing to do with the rampant red tape and corruption in our burueacracy..... If you want to build a better nation; just build a real you!!!! Discipline yourself!!!!!!!

RODSKI
02-18-2007, 08:57 PM
needless to say, he is perfectly fit for the senate

Mr. Dan isa pa pong tanong,
Is it valid if i vote him as Chiz Escudero or do i have to write his full name
anu-ano po ba mga (valid) alias nya...senya na po, kulang po kami sa impormasyon e (ay! ako lang pala) . . . . . .Hi Sharpener-san:) kung boboto ka na ( mukhang excited ka na ha:p ) pwede ka naman humingi ng mga listahan ng mga ibat ibang partido na tatakbo nitong parating na eleksyon sigurado ako na mahahanap mo dun ang name ni 'Chiz Escudero' pati na din yung mga alias ng mga kandidato na gusto mo iboto, tungkol naman kay mr.Chiz Escudero magaling nga iyan,may free legal advice siya sa isang a.m radio station pag gabi di ko lang matandaan kung anong station yun? well anyway, marami syang naibigay na talaga namang nakatulong, pero nasa sayo pa rin kung sino ang gusto mo iboto sana lang maging responsableng botante tayo, tingnan ba lahat ng mga magagandang nagawa,or naitulong bago iboto.

dan
02-18-2007, 09:09 PM
Soju6-san, let’s agree to disagree po. Huwag lang tayong magsakitan o kaya saktan ang ating sarili sa pa-ulit-ulit na pagsabi ng kawawa naman ang Pilipinas. Let’s not wallow in self-pity, dahil sabi nga ng isang kilalang psychologist, “Self-pity is easily the most destructive of the nonpharmaceutical narcotics; it is addictive, gives momentary pleasure and separates the victim from reality.”

Hindi ako naniniwala na kawawa ang Pilipinas dahil naiintindihan na ng karamihan sa atin na hindi ibang tao, hindi gobyerno ang magpapa-unlad sa ating kabuhayan kundi mga sarili natin. Maraming nag-sasakripisyo, tinitiis ang hirap at lungkot na magtrabaho sa ibang bansa dahil gusto nating mapa-unlad ang ating pamumuhay at bayan natin. Katunayangan nga, despite GMA, unti-unting umaangat ang ekonomiya natin dahil sa mga padalang dolyares at yen sa Pilipinas ng mga kababayan nating OFWs.

Bigyan nga lang natin ng pagkakataon na mapabilis ang pag-unlad ng ating bayan sa pagpili ng mga mahuhusay at matatag na lider.

Joeblack san, tama po kayo. akala ko po catch-all na ang “ipaglaban ang tama.” pero dapat nga kasali ang genuine concern for others, especially, for the less fortunate.

Sharpener san, gaya po ng sabi ni joeblack san at Rodski san, pwede nang 'Chiz Escudero' o kaya 'Chiz' ang isulat sa balota.

joeblack
02-18-2007, 09:12 PM
. . . . . .Hi Sharpener-san:) kung boboto ka na ( mukhang excited ka na ha:p ) pwede ka naman humingi ng mga listahan ng mga ibat ibang partido na tatakbo nitong parating na eleksyon sigurado ako na mahahanap mo dun ang name ni 'Chiz Escudero' pati na din yung mga alias ng mga kandidato na gusto mo iboto, tungkol naman kay mr.Chiz Escudero magaling nga iyan,may free legal advice siya sa isang a.m radio station pag gabi di ko lang matandaan kung anong station yun? well anyway, marami syang naibigay na talaga namang nakatulong, pero nasa sayo pa rin kung sino ang gusto mo iboto sana lang maging responsableng botante tayo, tingnan ba lahat ng mga magagandang nagawa,or naitulong bago iboto.


DZMM ata yung radio program ni chiz at mayroon din syang column sa Abante-tonite, Ang itanong mo kay Chiz at usapang legal sa abante una sa balita ata kung di ako nagkakamali.

Soju6
02-18-2007, 09:18 PM
Nakalimutan niyo na ba na kung bakit pati ang magiging apo ninyo ay may utang na?
Dahil duon sa pamilyang nagnakaw ng bilyong bilyong dolyares sa pilipinas and Chiz Escudero Supports that Family.

Yung lantarang pangwawalanghiya ni Erap sa Bansa natin, Pagwawaladas ng Pera ng Bansa, nakalimutan niyo na rin? And Chiz Escudero is a big supporter of Erap.
Nung nawala si Erap, lumipat naman siya Kay FPJ na bestfriend ni Erap.

Yan po ang dahilan kung bakit tayo ay nakakalat dito sa Japan,di lang dito sa Japan kundi sa buong mundo dahil sa di na makabangon ang ekonomiya kahit anong trabaho sa ibang bansa ay pinapatulan natin para lang makaalis ng pilipinas.

Hindi ba mas maganda kung sila ang pupunta sa atin para mag trabaho? Yung mga hapon, mga intsik, mga Singaporeans….kahit sa panaginip , hindi na mangyayari dahil nga ibinaon tayo sa utang ng mga Presidenteng sinusuportahan ni Chiz Escudero.

Mag isip po tayong mabuti bago tayo bumoto……..miss Viagra, este purpletab, I’ll take your advise on changing my citizenship, I might just do that.

tokyoboi2
02-18-2007, 09:30 PM
May part ang bawat isa sa atin para mapaunlad natin ang ating bansa. Yong maliit na parte natin pag nagawa natin at lahat ay gagawa, hindi mahirap ang pag unlad. I believed pag ikaw at ako ay gagalaw para sa kapakanan ng bansa natin, d malayo makakamit natin yong pinapangarap nating pagbabago at pag unlad. Lahat tayo responsible para sa ating bansa, lahat kelangan gumalaw at gumawa ng hakbang para sa pagbabago.
Kung ano yong nakikita natin sa Japan na mabuti, i apply natin sa Pinas at pag nakita nila yon, at may gagaya, yon na ang simula ng pagbabago. This cant be achieved ovenight but it will be a process, pero with that little change that you gonna start, that will pave way para sa malaking breakthrough para sa bansa natin. Be optomistic, malaki ang pag asa ng bansa natin para umunlad. Let us all move and vote wisely. May mga matitino pa ring natititra sa mga public officials natin.

joeblack
02-18-2007, 09:35 PM
Nakalimutan niyo na ba na kung bakit pati ang magiging apo ninyo ay may utang na?
Dahil duon sa pamilyang nagnakaw ng bilyong bilyong dolyares sa pilipinas and Chiz Escudero Supports that Family.

Yung lantarang pangwawalanghiya ni Erap sa Bansa natin, Pagwawaladas ng Pera ng Bansa, nakalimutan niyo na rin? And Chiz Escudero is a big supporter of Erap.
Nung nawala si Erap, lumipat naman siya Kay FPJ na bestfriend ni Erap.

Yan po ang dahilan kung bakit tayo ay nakakalat dito sa Japan,di lang dito sa Japan kundi sa buong mundo dahil sa di na makabangon ang ekonomiya kahit anong trabaho sa ibang bansa ay pinapatulan natin para lang makaalis ng pilipinas.

Hindi ba mas maganda kung sila ang pupunta sa atin para mag trabaho? Yung mga hapon, mga intsik, mga Singaporeans….kahit sa panaginip , hindi na mangyayari dahil nga ibinaon tayo sa utang ng mga Presidenteng sinusuportahan ni Chiz Escudero.

Mag isip po tayong mabuti bago tayo bumoto……..miss Viagra, este purpletab, I’ll take your advise on changing my citizenship, I might just do that.

As what I have said, we can not blame anyone! If you pinpointed marcos and Estrada being not such good president; do the Arroyo administration have done well to improve our economy? Or she do everything just to stay in power inorder not to go in jail once toppled due to corruptions. The malversation of Philhealth Funds, the agriculture funds which was release by Bolante.... The hello Garci scandal[ election fraud] And so on and so forth.... Remember that we are living in a democratic country... We have the right of Suffrage, right of assymbly and above all, we have the right to vote for the candidate whom we think has the capacity and ability to represents us in the senate or in congress.... Let our dreams be realize by trusting political person to represent our cause....

Soju6
02-18-2007, 09:49 PM
Nasabi ko na yung gusto kong sabihin...

Mr Joeblack, sa tagalog niyo na lang sabihin yung mga gusto ninyong sabihin sa susunod.
Pls lang...you don't sound that convincing kasi pag Ingles ang gamit mo tsaka wag masyadong gumamit ng mga terminologies na hindi naiintindihan ng lahat ng mambabasa dito....I wasn't impress at all, not your intention, I know.

dan
02-18-2007, 10:03 PM
Nasabi ko na yung gusto kong sabihin...

Mr Joeblack, sa tagalog niyo na lang sabihin yung mga gusto ninyong sabihin sa susunod.
Pls lang...you don't sound that convincing kasi pag Ingles ang gamit mo tsaka wag masyadong gumamit ng mga terminologies na hindi naiintindihan ng lahat ng mambabasa dito....I wasn't impress at all, not your intention, I know.

Soju6-san, again let's agree to disagree but let's always choose
humility over arrogance,
optimism over pessimism,
hope over despair.

purpletablet
02-18-2007, 10:23 PM
Nakalimutan niyo na ba na kung bakit pati ang magiging apo ninyo ay may utang na?
Dahil duon sa pamilyang nagnakaw ng bilyong bilyong dolyares sa pilipinas and Chiz Escudero Supports that Family.

Yung lantarang pangwawalanghiya ni Erap sa Bansa natin, Pagwawaladas ng Pera ng Bansa, nakalimutan niyo na rin? And Chiz Escudero is a big supporter of Erap.
Nung nawala si Erap, lumipat naman siya Kay FPJ na bestfriend ni Erap.

Yan po ang dahilan kung bakit tayo ay nakakalat dito sa Japan,di lang dito sa Japan kundi sa buong mundo dahil sa di na makabangon ang ekonomiya kahit anong trabaho sa ibang bansa ay pinapatulan natin para lang makaalis ng pilipinas.

Hindi ba mas maganda kung sila ang pupunta sa atin para mag trabaho? Yung mga hapon, mga intsik, mga Singaporeans….kahit sa panaginip , hindi na mangyayari dahil nga ibinaon tayo sa utang ng mga Presidenteng sinusuportahan ni Chiz Escudero.

Mag isip po tayong mabuti bago tayo bumoto……..miss Viagra, este purpletab, I’ll take your advise on changing my citizenship, I might just do that.

pa OT:
correction po: purpletablet is not viagra.... can u recognize blue from purple, can't u? viagra is a blue pill.. so therefore i am not viagra :D .. mas tama po ata na nexium~ purple pill o kaya ecstacy :D .. pero if u'lll still insist that i am miss viagra malugod ko po itong tatanggapin kasi po baka kailanganin mo ang viagra someday :D :p

as what ive said earlier, can u just pinpoint the qualities of a "qualified" candidate or should i say, candidates whom we should vote for the upcoming elections?

mahirap po kasi ang kumontra ng kumontra pero wala ka naman mapinpoint na candidate na karapat dapat iboto. regarding change of citizenship very much welcome po kami sa idea nyo na palitan ang citizenship nyo kasi nde namin kelangan ng kababayan na dapat sana ay tumutulong sa pagboboose ng morale ng mga pinoy bagkus ay isa pa sa mga nagsasabi na walang pag-asa ang pinas..

Soju6
02-18-2007, 10:51 PM
Mr Dan, That's good, you know your vocabularies...what' s the point showing off?

Miss V, color blind ho ako....
Magmula po ng umalis ako ng pilipinas, a small percent of my salary goes directly to a charity sa Pilipinas, "Education For Filipino Children" , (going 18yrs now,at di ako nanghihinayang dagdagan pa)dahil alam kong "edukasyon" ang dahilan kung bakit maraming madaling magpaloko sa atin para lang makuha ang boto.
Matagal ng napapagsamantalahan ang mga mangmang.Kahit papaano hindi lang po ako puro daldal . Kayo po ba? Anong natutulong ninyo?
Wala po akong imumungkahi sa inyo kung sino ang dapat ninyong iboto. Pero wag po sana nating iboto ang mga taong alam nating sumusuporta sa mga taong nagpahirap sa pilipinas.

purpletablet
02-18-2007, 11:03 PM
Mr Dan, That's good, you know your vocabularies...what' s the point showing off?

Miss V, color blind ho ako....
Magmula po ng umalis ako ng pilipinas, a small percent of my salary goes directly to a charity sa Pilipinas, "Education For Filipino Children" , (going 18yrs now,at di ako nanghihinayang dagdagan pa)dahil alam kong "edukasyon" ang dahilan kung bakit maraming madaling magpaloko sa atin para lang makuha ang boto.
Matagal ng napapagsamantalahan ang mga mangmang.Kahit papaano hindi lang po ako puro daldal . Kayo po ba? Anong natutulong ninyo?
Wala po akong imumungkahi sa inyo kung sino ang dapat ninyong iboto. Pero wag po sana nating iboto ang mga taong alam nating sumusuporta sa mga taong nagpahirap sa pilipinas.

ahh color blind po ba kayo? hindi nyo nman agad sinabi na color blind kau:D

regarding sa naitulong, wala po akong maipagmamalaki na naitulong sa mga charitable institution kasi po naniniwala ako na charity begins at home, uunahin ko po muna tulungan ang mas nangangailangan kong kapamilya upang hindi po sila maging pahirap sa pilipinas..

kung ayaw nyo po sa mga opposition candidates like mr chiz escudero, i assume maka-administration po kau. :D

Soju6
02-18-2007, 11:19 PM
Hindi rin ako maka-admin.

dan
02-19-2007, 02:00 AM
Soju6-san, like you and purpletablet-san, I practice charity -- the amount involved may not be as big as the small percent of your salary -- but announcing it on the internet is not just my style. It just doesn’t make me feel good. Let me, however, say that what you are doing is admirable but you can do more.

I am sure we both agree that, among other things, what ails our country is our culture of dependency, i.e., we tend to depend too much on other people’s charity. I am also sure we both agree that we need to instill back in ourselves the honor and value of self-reliance, being one’s own man or woman.

I know Chiz personally and I know he is his own man. I may not agree with all that he says, but I don’t have any doubts about the strength of his character and his sincerity to serve. What I would like to suggest to you is to follow your own advice. Get to know him personally before coming up with these pronouncements. Otherwise, gaya po nang sinabi ninyo, puro daldal lang tayo dito.

dcat
02-19-2007, 03:14 AM
I know Chiz personally and I know he is his own man. I may not agree with all that he says, but I don’t have any doubts about the strength of his character and his sincerity to serve. What I would like to suggest to you is to follow your own advice. Get to know him personally before coming up with these pronouncements. Otherwise, gaya po nang sinabi ninyo, puro daldal lang tayo dito.

Hullo dan! :)
Welcome to TF. We hope that you are enjoying yourself, and also that you will keep posting here at TF even after the election is over.

Although I may not like Soju6' posting style, he or she has a valid comment here - s/he is not merely talking but saying what s/he thinks of Mr. Chiz. If you decide to campaign for your friend at TF, you must be ready to receive not only praise for your friend, but also negative comments about him. Your suggestion of getting to know a politician personally is unrealistic.

If you want to address Soju6' concern, you must direct your retort to her problems with Mr. Chiz, particularly on Mr. Chiz' support of 2 most flagrant corrupt leaders of the Philippines. How can you explain that? If you could provide Soju6 with an explanation addressing her concerns, you may be able to persuade him/her to vote for Mr. Chiz. Furthermore, you might even get others to register to vote, since not many are interested in voting anymore. ;)

joeblack
02-19-2007, 04:01 AM
Nasabi ko na yung gusto kong sabihin...

Mr Joeblack, sa tagalog niyo na lang sabihin yung mga gusto ninyong sabihin sa susunod.
Pls lang...you don't sound that convincing kasi pag Ingles ang gamit mo tsaka wag masyadong gumamit ng mga terminologies na hindi naiintindihan ng lahat ng mambabasa dito....I wasn't impress at all, not your intention, I know.

Thanks soju6, probably you are not familiar with the simple terminologies I used here. besides, I can express my opinion well in English than in Tagalog. I think there's nothing wrong with that. If you couldn't understand the terminologies I used; I hope others could comprehend it... I am not convincing you to believe and be impressed to what I have posted anyway!!!! Peace tayo.

iseijin
02-19-2007, 04:26 AM
Maraming salamat, Sharpener.

Excerpt sa on-line press conference ni Chiz nung Tuesday (Feb. 13) sa yehey.com:

<andjiwer> Do u have any progams for OFWs?
<Guest_Chiz> Yes. Protection and security to our nationals working abroad, fair terms of employment and forward-looking policies to predict labor demands from abroad.

For more, kindly visit:
http://www.yehey.com/chat/chatevent.aspx?id=67

Sa case ni Rey Cortez, isang kababayan natin na mekaniko sa Saudi, tumulong si Chiz para iligtas ang kanyang buhay.
http://www.prisontalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130 310


Any notable laws or projects under his name? All the news i heard about him is related to opposition group with FPJ and Susan Roces... bla bla bla. Will appreciate any information related to him.

Thanks.

dcat
02-19-2007, 04:38 AM
Nasabi ko na yung gusto kong sabihin...
Mr Joeblack, sa tagalog niyo na lang sabihin yung mga gusto ninyong sabihin sa susunod.
Pls lang...you don't sound that convincing kasi pag Ingles ang gamit mo tsaka wag masyadong gumamit ng mga terminologies na hindi naiintindihan ng lahat ng mambabasa dito....I wasn't impress at all, not your intention, I know.
Hullo Soju6! :)
Your opinion has been heard and it will be addressed whenever they can. Please refer to TF members using their proper TF handles. It's called respect. Purpletablet is kind for letting it pass, but other members will not like it very much.

TF uses English and Filipino as its preffered discussion language, please be considerate to those who use either one of the languages. Usage of a particular language does not lessen the content of a post. Thus, it is better to direct your criticism to the post's content and not the language. If you have problems understanding joeblack's posts due to certain terminologies, please refer to any dictionary or kindly ask for clarification. If there are some grammatical errors and mispelled words, please be patient and understanding, or kindly point them out with the intent to make them clearer.

Thanks soju6, probably you are not familiar with the simple terminologies I used here. besides, I can express my opinion well in English than in Tagalog. I think there's nothing wrong with that. If you couldn't understand the terminologies I used; I hope others could comprehend it... I am not convincing you to believe and be impressed to what I have posted anyway!!!! Peace tayo.
Hullo Mr. joeblack!
I perfectly understand what you're saying. Don't mind Soju6, just write in any language you feel comfortable with, as long as it's in Filipino or English. I'm glad that you are voting this year Mr. joeblack. :)

Soju6
02-19-2007, 08:50 AM
Oh, I have my own candidate for the senate race. This guy is unbelievable, graduated top of his class from 2 well known universities in the US. Young and smart, always looking out for himself, womanizer, well known for gambling and drinking spree. Not the best person to own a seat in the Congress/Senate.

But I know him personally, so why don’t vote for him.

Not my style to encourage other people to vote for someone who supports corruption. It makes me sick to my stomach.
Oh, I believe I just did that…hmmm, oh well.

Mr Joe, Mr joe , Mr Joe….hehehehehe, you crack me up Mr Joe. You can express yourself better in English than in tagalong? Now I get it, hindi tagalog salita mo nung nasa pinas ka pa.
Now I understand, medyo simplehan na lang po ninyo yung ingles niyo tulad ko para di naman masyadong nakakahiya.

To the Ka TFs’ that I offended, Pls accept my sincerest apologies…I'll leave you guys alone this time, promise.

Soju6
Cook/Part time Cab Driver

dan
02-19-2007, 11:47 AM
We may not agree with all of Chiz’s political pronouncements and positions, but let’s not accuse him as “magnanakaw, etc.” like what Sojo6san is practically doing in his posts. Sana po huwag tayong masyadong judgmental sa isang tao na hindi naman natin talaga kilala. Kung gagawin man natin ito, let's make the effort to really know the person.

Not even Chiz’s political opponents – a few of whom know him in person – accuse him of stealing or cheating. Kahit nga supposedly kalaban niya sa pulitika ay ni-re-respeto at hinahangaan siya. And therein lies a rare quality of a leader we need most, a leader who has the respect and high regard of both his enemies and his friends. Ang paki-usap ko po ay bigyan natin siya ng pagkakataon na pagsilbihan tayo sa senado at patunayan ang kanyang pagmamahal sa ating bayan. Kung hindi niya magagawa ito, then tanggalin natin siya sa susunod na election.

With regard to the bills he authored in congress, here is what sassy lawyer (http://www.sassylawyer.com/ (http://www.sassylawyer.com/2006/11/02/posturing-bears-fruit/)), who is also critical of Chiz’s politics, has to say:

“Okay, I’ll be fair. At least, Escudero sponsored some intelligent bills (http://www.congress.gov.ph/members/search.php?id=escude ro) including 1) an act granting tex incentives to broadcast and print media devoting air time and space to education, 2) an act penalizing influence peddling and 3) an act institutionalizing early childhood development and education centers for children aged 0 to 5 years. I may not agree with Escudero’s politics but I won’t triviliaze the quality of the bills he has authored. It’s ironic though that despite the important subject matters covered by such bills, they are all still pending. Guess that shows the priorities of the Lower House”, which is predominated by pro-GMA congressmen.

Clause in italics is mine. For more about his accomplishments in congress, please refer to http://www.chizescudero.com/chiz/chizCongress.php.

dan
02-19-2007, 02:28 PM
Erap may be perceived as corrupt but it does not necessarily mean that persons who support him are corrupt. And again before we make any accusations or insinuations that a person is corrupt, is it not a moral obligation to make the effort to know the person first?

Kung mismong mga kalaban ni Chiz ay hinahangaan at ni-re-respesto siya,

Kung ang mga nabiktima nung panahon ni Marcos ay kasa-kasama niya sa pagsulong ng mga progresibong mga batas sa kongreso katulad ng mga batas para sa edukasyon, para sa mas maunlad na kabuhayan para sa mga kababayan nating mahihirap, para sa kalikasan atbp.,

Kung kasa-kasama niya sila sa pagtutol sa mga ala-Marcos na executive order at presidential decree ni GMA,

Hindi ba nararapat na alamin muna natin kung ano ang talaga ang pagkatao niya, bago tayo gumawa ng akusasyon o kaya insinuation na corrupt siya?

dan
02-19-2007, 02:52 PM
hello, dcat. thank you very much for the welcome. you're right that should have been "Get to know him as his own person...." Is it still possible to edit that post? thanks again. dan

dan
02-19-2007, 03:26 PM
Chiz is his own man.

“Escudero was one of the pro-impeachment congressmen who were the prime movers for the initiation of impeachment proceedings for current Philippine President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gloria_Arroyo). In 2005, he voted against the dropping of impeachment complaints against the president. His explanation summarizes his stand: "It is the truth that has lost. But the search for the truth does not end today. The president and her allies will always be haunted by questions."

In 2006, the House Minority Leader announced that the opposition would purge members who will not affix their signatures upon the impeachment resolution filed. Despite the Catholic Bishops Conference of the Philippines' (CBCP) refusal to back Arroyo's impeachment in 2006, Escudero insisted that the impeachment process would continue as "the only available legal and peaceful means at arriving at the truth." This statement did not sit well with others members of the House, particularly with fellow representative Imee Marcos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imee_Marcos).”

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Escudero

joeblack
02-19-2007, 08:41 PM
Oh, I have my own candidate for the senate race. This guy is unbelievable, graduated top of his class from 2 well known universities in the US. Young and smart, always looking out for himself, womanizer, well known for gambling and drinking spree. Not the best person to own a seat in the Congress/Senate.

But I know him personally, so why don’t vote for him.

Not my style to encourage other people to vote for someone who supports corruption. It makes me sick to my stomach.
Oh, I believe I just did that…hmmm, oh well.

Mr Joe, Mr joe , Mr Joe….hehehehehe, you crack me up Mr Joe. You can express yourself better in English than in tagalong? Now I get it, hindi tagalog salita mo nung nasa pinas ka pa.
Now I understand, medyo simplehan na lang po ninyo yung ingles niyo tulad ko para di naman masyadong nakakahiya.

To the Ka TFs’ that I offended, Pls accept my sincerest apologies…I'll leave you guys alone this time, promise.

Soju6
Cook/Part time Cab Driver

Mr. soju6, do not be meticulous enough to critique my posts.... As what Dcat san have said , If you can not read between the lines of what terminologies I used; you may refer yourself to Mr. dictionary. Sometimes, upon writing words, we inadvertently typed different letters, if so happened it will affect the meaning of the ideas you want to project.... I humbly apologized if I did some misspelled words that caused you headache just to understand it...

Yeah! you're right that I don't speak tagalog in the Philippines but Hiligaynon, and English.

purpletablet
02-19-2007, 09:18 PM
Oh, I have my own candidate for the senate race. This guy is unbelievable, graduated top of his class from 2 well known universities in the US. Young and smart, always looking out for himself, womanizer, well known for gambling and drinking spree. Not the best person to own a seat in the Congress/Senate.

But I know him personally, so why don’t vote for him.

Not my style to encourage other people to vote for someone who supports corruption. It makes me sick to my stomach.
Oh, I believe I just did that…hmmm, oh well.

Mr Joe, Mr joe , Mr Joe….hehehehehe, you crack me up Mr Joe. You can express yourself better in English than in tagalong? Now I get it, hindi tagalog salita mo nung nasa pinas ka pa.
Now I understand, medyo simplehan na lang po ninyo yung ingles niyo tulad ko para di naman masyadong nakakahiya.

To the Ka TFs’ that I offended, Pls accept my sincerest apologies…I'll leave you guys alone this time, promise.

Soju6
Cook/Part time Cab Driver

ok. apology accepted but next time be sensitive to other's opinions/feelings coz u dont know us that much.. lucky you coz im not that 'pikon' :p

God bless!

but one of my votes still goes to chiz :D :D :D

dan
02-20-2007, 08:50 PM
The strength of a man’s character is revealed when all seems lost yet he chooses to fight for he what he believe is right.

Up until the eleventh hour of the 2nd impeachment process against GMA,

when our bishops and priests, who are supposed to be the moral compass of our nation, did not step up to defend what is morally right,

when practically most opposition congressmen, including Imee Marcos, chose to succumb to GMA’s promises and enticements,

Chiz chose to fight.

Only heroes and great leaders are made of such strength of character.

Soju6-san’s issue is, in essence, an attack on Chiz’s character. And I responded accordingly.

joeblack
02-20-2007, 10:26 PM
The strength of a man’s character is revealed when all seems lost yet he chooses to fight for he what he believe is right.

Up until the eleventh hour of the 2nd impeachment process against GMA,

when our bishops and priests, who are supposed to be the moral compass of our nation, did not step up to defend what is morally right,

when practically most opposition congressmen, including Imee Marcos, chose to succumb to GMA’s promises and enticements,

Chiz chose to fight.

Only heroes and great leaders are made of such strength of character.

Soju6-san’s issue is, in essence, an attack on Chiz’s character. And I responded accordingly.


@ Dan, you're right! Not only attacking Chiz but also those who wanted to support him. I don't know what ideals does soju6 wanted to be in a politician? Attacking members of the TF is not big deal for they[members] wanted only to express their support to a certain candidate/s. Do we need to argue with person who has limited resources in debating the capacity of the person/members whom he don't know? I think, once again the affiant will attack the author and beg to express in tagalog once more for the clarification of the terminologies which he have never encounter in life.... PEACE!!!!!

mark_15
02-21-2007, 05:04 PM
Everyone is now invited to reconsider heated arguments. This thread has already gone out of topic, with the recent posts now already been omitted. I suggest further contributions to the thread should stick from now on to the original topic. Let's all take it easy.

sharpener
02-21-2007, 07:44 PM
salamat po Sir Mark...

Chiz Escudero is running for senator.... not for president
kaya sana wag natin syang itulad o ihambing sa mga corrupt presidents

para sakin... mas maganda na galing sa ibat-ibang partido ang mga senador, para sa malawak na diskusyunan o debate

@joeblack san, rodski san, dan san
salamat po sa mga replies nyo

joeblack
02-21-2007, 08:26 PM
salamat po Sir Mark...

Chiz Escudero is running for senator.... not for president
kaya sana wag natin syang itulad o ihambing sa mga corrupt presidents

para sakin... mas maganda na galing sa ibat-ibang partido ang mga senador, para sa malawak na diskusyunan o debate

@joeblack san, rodski san, dan san
salamat po sa mga replies nyo

Thank you sir Mark_15 san. I do apologized for I was just carried with my emotions....

@ Sharpener san, I agree with you that it's better that the elected law making bodies will come from different parties so that there will be a better deliveration of the bills and resolutions before it will be impose into laws....

dan
02-21-2007, 08:47 PM
Listen to Chiz on Inquirer's Eleksyon 2007 podcast (http://newsinfo.inquirer.ne t/podcasts/index.php?podtitle=E leksyon%202007%20Pod cast:%20Francis%20Es cudero&podurl=mms://servepath-ss.dagupan.com/eleksyon2007/inquirernet-eleksyon2007-ep3-02192007.wma&xe=XE_NEWS_PODCAST_A RTICLE).

Chiz una sa listahan ni Pinoy X-sa KSA (http://mocssasaudi.blogspot .com/2007/01/senatorial-candidates.html).

McBONG
02-27-2007, 12:11 AM
One thing I dont agree to chiz,his stand about RP-Military Modernazation plan.Please review it well,We need it Sir.You can count my vote plus my clan."kaming mga bicolano ay Saro".(Bicolsaro).

mamimo
03-02-2007, 07:19 PM
dear chiz,

alam mo ba nung una kitang madinig mag-salita sa campus namin (di akin yun sch dun lang ako galing:D ) nahulog na loob ko sayo sana nga lang kung manalo kang senador mas bumango pa ang pangalan mo sa kin pag may gawin kang di ko gusto ayaw ko na sayo.....as if you cares naman:D :D

McBONG
03-03-2007, 12:32 AM
Listen to Chiz on Inquirer's Eleksyon 2007 podcast (http://newsinfo.inquirer.ne t/podcasts/index.php?podtitle=E leksyon%202007%20Pod cast:%20Francis%20Es cudero&podurl=mms://servepath-ss.dagupan.com/eleksyon2007/inquirernet-eleksyon2007-ep3-02192007.wma&xe=XE_NEWS_PODCAST_A RTICLE).

Chiz una sa listahan ni Pinoy X-sa KSA (http://mocssasaudi.blogspot .com/2007/01/senatorial-candidates.html).
Mail from kuya Teddy Ramores,suportaran pero ok,copy and clear.

roscoeb
03-17-2007, 09:54 AM
One thing I dont agree to chiz,his stand about RP-Military Modernazation plan.Please review it well,We need it Sir.You can count my vote plus my clan."kaming mga bicolano ay Saro".(Bicolsaro).

I will also vote for Chiz and Trillanes and Sonia Roco. Bicolano gabos.

adechan
03-17-2007, 10:50 AM
sigh* .... kawawa naman ang pinas...

alam ko yata ...... matagal na :D

liong
05-17-2007, 08:14 PM
sana di matulad itong chiz na ito sa amo nya...... congrats in advance!:)

mamimo
05-20-2007, 07:54 PM
sana di matulad itong chiz na ito sa amo nya...... congrats in advance!:)

Di naman siguro, mag-iipon pa yan ng pogi points balak kasi maging Presidente.....yun daw ang pangarap nya......sana nga matupad.:)

joeblack
05-20-2007, 08:17 PM
Ang pangarap nya ay pangarap ko rin. Baka kami ang magkabanggaan balang araw... Hhehehehee!!!!! Kidden' aside.. Anyway, he is one among the candidates I voted for the Senate. His principles has the edge against other politicians.... Hope that he will continue his good governance so that he will have a brighter political carreer...



Di naman siguro, mag-iipon pa yan ng pogi points balak kasi maging Presidente.....yun daw ang pangarap nya......sana nga matupad.:)