Mistresses an acceptable fact of life in the Philippines [Archive] - Timog Forum

mark_15

04-04-2007, 02:15 PM

yahoo In this conservative Roman Catholic nation of 87 million where divorce is still banned, it appears that mistresses -- being one and having one -- have gained a degree of acceptability. "There is no stigma to being someone's mistress, at least not in the Philippines," says Jullie Yap Daza, author of the best selling book "Etiquette for Mistresses: And What Wives Can Learn From Them". Read more... (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070404/lf_afp/lifestylephilippines bookmistresses_07040 4042610;_ylt=Au3XS5p GLuaDnA7RnYpUVSZUKYU A)

infinite_trial

04-04-2007, 02:40 PM

There is no stigma to being someone's mistress... :rolleyes:

kung kabit ka ng upper class siguro

docomo

04-04-2007, 03:21 PM

A difficult thing to give a response to.. depende sa tao siguro and what is acceptable. :)

alamagawa

04-04-2007, 03:32 PM

karamihan talaga ng lalake sa pinas muslim.

infinite_trial

04-04-2007, 03:53 PM

A difficult thing to give a response to.. depende sa tao siguro and what is acceptable. :)

pero doc what do you think...is it a good or bad thing?

biloglog

04-04-2007, 03:57 PM

karamihan talaga ng lalake sa pinas muslim.

ginaya lang daw ng mga muslim si Erap.hehehe!! http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y270/urbantokyo/icon_lol.gif

docomo

04-04-2007, 04:04 PM

pero doc what do you think...is it a good or bad thing?

Not a bad thing. .. I approach my feelings over this situation open minded .. victim or not the only obligation YOU have in life, is the only obligation for YOU to be happy. If YOU are not happy, YOU cannot make someone else happy." :)

infinite_trial

04-04-2007, 04:12 PM

Not a bad thing. .. I approach my feelings over this situation open minded .. victim or not the only obligation YOU have in life, is the only obligation for YOU to be happy. If YOU are not happy, YOU cannot make someone else happy." :)

nothing against mistresses, but if this is totally accepted, then it means our culture tolerates having an affair. i hope men will not see it as a license to cheat.

docomo

04-04-2007, 04:15 PM

nothing against mistresses, but if this is totally accepted, then it means our culture tolerates having an affair. i hope men will not see it as a license to cheat.

not tolerating in the sense.. inevitable lang kasi.. :)

mamimo

04-04-2007, 06:03 PM

Pag-kakaalam ko may mga lalake na mas maayos ang trato sa mistress nila keysa sa legal wife.....why oh why:confused:

alamagawa

04-04-2007, 06:13 PM

Pag-kakaalam ko may mga lalake na mas maayos ang trato sa mistress nila keysa sa legal wife.....why oh why:confused:

mas masarap kasi bawal mami:D

nasty

04-04-2007, 06:39 PM

sana lang kung kukuha ng mistress mga lalaki (hndi ako galit) be sure n good provider sila s family nila kung hndi tlaga nila maiwasan ksi may mga cases sa pinas n wala na ngang pangtuition yung anak niya ,ngagawa png iapartment ng mahal yung mistress nila,

mamimo

04-04-2007, 06:42 PM

mas masarap kasi bawal mami:D

oo nga nuh, "gano kasarap ang bawal?" parang title ng Philippine local movie:D :) sa isang banda, may mga lalake sigurong ang tingin sa asawa matapos pakasalan ay possession na nila o wala ng fear to lose while ang extra-marital affair usually temporary lang so nag-eeffort sila na i-enjoy ang experience:)

v_wrangler

04-04-2007, 07:53 PM

oo nga nuh, "gano kasarap ang bawal?" parang title ng Philippine local movie:D :) sa isang banda, may mga lalake sigurong ang tingin sa asawa matapos pakasalan ay possession na nila o wala ng fear to lose while ang extra-marital affair usually temporary lang so nag-eeffort sila na i-enjoy ang experience:)

Siguro yong mga nangangaliwa dapat i-circumsize ulit:D.

forest pixie

04-04-2007, 10:20 PM

Siguro yong mga nangangaliwa dapat i-circumsize ulit:D.

I-circumsize uli? Huwag!!!!:eek: Putulan nalang :D Sori medyo brutal:O

Pero if what was written is true, very sad naman for the wife and the children. I have no right to judge the mistresses but I think the bulk of the burden and the heart ache is on the wife and the children. Sa mga kalalakihang napapasok sa ganitong situation, di ba pag ang mundo ay nagkagulo-gulo at ang buhay nyo ay nagka loko-loko, eventually ang inyong hahanapin at kakanlungan ay ang inyong legal na asawa't mga anak? Here is hoping though that even if the husband gets no2 no3 or even more, he does not forget his responsibility to his family. Bakit di nalang kasi stick to one? (wish ko lang :love: )

Gandang gabi mga ka-TF!

la_tina512

04-04-2007, 10:43 PM

As a wife and if ever it happens to me God help me baka kung ano magawa ko. I won't play naive or be the martyr type, excuse me, but I won't allow anyone to wreck my family and my home. How could I ever understand a woman who will get into a relationship with a married man? How could I also understand a married man who'll get involved with another woman not his wife? I'm also not in favor that because a husband can afford to maintain a mistress he will make it a license to have one. It will be me or her. And if ever, I'll make it hell for the both of them.... What's the use of living together under one roof if you know that your husband is having sex with another woman? Where is the sanctity of marriage there? Ganyan na ba talaga bansa natin ngayon wala ng moral values ang mga tao? Minsan nakaka-shock nga 'yong ibang babae ang tatapang ipangalandakan na kabit sila. I'm sorry but I can't find the logic there na alam ng may asawa sige pa rin sila ..... Minsan nga kung sino pa 'yong kabit siya pa ang matapang at nagde-demand na iwan na ang original family.

la_tina512

04-05-2007, 08:07 AM

Pahabol lang po..

Sa mga kabaro ko who are doing their best to keep their families intact by being the wives and mothers they're suppose to be lalo na sa dito sa Japan where most of the moms are working their butts off real hard to help their husbands in financial matters. Dalawang tanong lang:

1. Ano gagawin mo pag nabalitaan mong may 'kabit' ang asawa mo?

2. Ano ngayon ang tingin at masasabi mo sa babaeng 'kumabit' sa asawa mo?

Walang stigma? I doubt it.

mOtt_erU

04-05-2007, 08:53 AM

Siguro yong mga nangangaliwa dapat i-circumsize ulit:D.
mukhang agree ako dito ha:D

medyO sensitive topic kase `to.....daming issues bat may lalakeng nangangabit at may babae namang nagpapakabit......ka ya mahirap magbigay ng opinyon...case by case...
perO para saken,kahit na fact of Life pa yan sa Pinas eh di pa din acceptable ang mga pumapayag sa ganyang set up...kahit alam na may pamilya eh kumakabit....ok lang sana kung divorced na or separated..perO mga hOmewreckers...nanka yurusanai....kahit ba love yan...kase reality check: kahit ba sinusustentuhan ka, tinatwagan at inuuwi uwian lang kung kelan pwede (dahil mahal nya pamilya nya at eto first priority) eh si mistress pa din naman kawawa sa huli~ walang kasiguruhan, maguLo, yung anak nila o magiging anak maapektuhan din..magtatanong yan at magahahanap "Nasan si papa??" anong iiwake isasagot ni mistress......perO kung si mistress ok sa ganitong setUp eh for sure; magpapakabit pa din..!haaaaay:( may choices tayO sa buhay..perO kung may mistress na piniling maging masaya, malungkot,magulo buhay niya eh karapatan nya yun perO responsibilidad nya din at the same time..opinyon ko lang to:p

Dax

04-05-2007, 02:47 PM

la_tina512

04-05-2007, 03:17 PM

Idagdag mo na din la_tina san dyan ang:

3. Ano ang gagawin mo pag nalaman mong kabit ka lang pala?

From what I learned from friends, 'yong iba tinanggap ang pagiging kabit nila, 'yong iba naman took all the effort para makahiwalay. I admire the latter....

Hensoldt

04-05-2007, 05:58 PM

Eh kapag si misis naman ang naghahangad ng bagong putahe, acceptable na rin ba? :confused:

sachi807

04-05-2007, 06:26 PM

kahit kelan yata hindi magiging acceptable yan sa lipunan:confused:

mamimo

04-05-2007, 06:30 PM

Eh kapag si misis naman ang naghahangad ng bagong putahe, acceptable na rin ba? :confused:

Sa Pinas pa.........ang lalake pag nakakuha ng pretty & sexy na kerida mapupuri sabihin "ang lufet kaya pa makabingwit" pero ang babae makagawa nito wala ni konting pang-unawa ang makuha nya sa mga tao.

docomo

04-05-2007, 06:53 PM

mamimo

04-05-2007, 07:01 PM

minsan hindi mo alam kung kelan ka bibiruin ng panahon ... lahat walang kasiguraduhan sa mundo .... merong mahal ka ngayon bukas hindi na .....kung ako naman ... basta nasa akin ang lahat .. hawak ko .. no prob.... siguraduhin kong pulubi sya bago ko sya ibigay sa kung sinong pontyo pilato > fair enough :p

pag ganyan malamang lumuhod ng pabalik si mister kay misis........no money no honey daw pano na si mistress pag limasin ni misis ang kayamanan ni papi:D

la_tina512

04-05-2007, 07:03 PM

minsan hindi mo alam kung kelan ka bibiruin ng panahon ... lahat walang kasiguraduhan sa mundo .... merong mahal ka ngayon bukas hindi na .....kung ako naman ... basta nasa akin ang lahat .. hawak ko .. no prob.... siguraduhin kong pulubi sya bago ko sya ibigay sa kung sinong pontyo pilato > fair enough :p

doc, kung sa akin, hindi ko lang sya pulubing bibitiwan, gagawin ko syang walang silbi (you know what i mean..) that's more than fair enough :D:p.. tingnan natin.. that's one of the reasons din kasi kung bakit may babae na pumapatol sa lalakeng may-asawa... kaya "putol" ang kaligayahan nila..

pekochan017

04-05-2007, 07:04 PM

oo nga, meron din naman mga babae na nag-chi-cheat. of course, mapa-lalake or babae, cheating is absolutely unacceptable. no logic or reason can ever justify cheating.

back on the article, i think it's a sad reality na wala na lang talga magawa ang mga wives back home kapag nahuli nila ang hubby nila in bed with another woman. lalo na kapag totally dependent ang mga may-bahay sa asawa nila. but im sure, none of these wives are ecstatic that they're sharing their husbands with another woman. kumbaga, wala lang talga silang magawa but to accept the sordid reality of it.

as for the wives cheating on the husbands, well.. maraming issues and factors re this which i am not defending because, like i said, cheating is wrong. 2 pa lang kze yun nakikilala ko na ganto eh for reasons na 1) she got married for nationality purposes only, and 2) forced to get married because she got pregnant. for sure marami pang reasons pero like i said.. i still think na maling-mali pa rin talga ang cheating - ang panloloko.

that is why pro ako sa divorce. at least those who are trapped can get out and start a new life without society judging them. and as for the desperate housewives/husbands, most likely, the one at fault will have to pay huge amount to their wife or husband enough to maybe assist them in this fresh start.

ppl back home should really start opening their minds about divorce.

pasensha na po kung mashado akong frank but this is just my opinion. at hindi rin po ako galit. :)

infinite_trial

04-05-2007, 10:32 PM

buhay pa ba asawa ni julie yap? i'm wondering if she'd write that book if she caught her hubby cheating. saka she got the idea lang pala from politicians? e satin kapag artista, pulitiko or basta kilala at nagkakabit, parang wala lang. pero tingnan mo kapag sa kapitbahay, nag-aaway mag-asawa dahil sa kabit. mamaya lang usap-usapan na ng mga tsismosa hehe.

gusto ko tuloy makita yung libro at tingnan kung ano ang tinuturo sa mga kabit. sana ang ginawa na lang nyang book...how to get out of an affair.

la_tina512

04-05-2007, 11:02 PM

Sa title pa lang ng book turned-off na ako. 'ETIQUETTE FOR MISTRESSES'... Parang gusto kong sabihin,"Hello, okay ka lang? Eh yon lang mang-agaw ng asawa ng asawa wala ng etiquette and manners ang gagawa papano pa tuturuan ng etiquette 'yon?" Kung may etiquette 'yon hindi mambabastos ng kapuwa babae niya.

I have to divulge something here kung bakit sobra galit ko sa mga babaeng kumakabit. I was only 27 when my husband left us (me and my son) for another woman. He went to the States to follow his mom and siblings as an immigrant. Sabi nga ni Mod Docomo you'll never know what's in store for us. That was one chapter of my life that I thought I'll never get over with. I turned to booze and almost committed suicide. Okay na sana, pero para mura-murahin ako ng kabit ng asawa ko and called me a whore... wow! super sa tapang at kapal ng mukha. Ako pa ang naging whore. Pati para sa anak ko pinakialaman, padadalhan ng allowance sabi nga anak ko pang-merienda raw. I don't put the blame on her alone, may naging part din naman ang husband ko pero di ko lang makalimutan na mura-murahin ako sa phone. Do you believe in the saying, "what goes around comes around?" Hindi rin naging successful ang marriage nila. As for my ex, he's got his third wife now pero ayaw syang patahimikin nong second... Kaya for the husbands, think a thousand times before you ever get into a relationship outside of marriage. Makaligtas ka nga sa original pero 'yong kabit naman ang magpa-impyerno ng buhay mo. 'YOU'LL REAP WHAT YOU SOW!

Soju6

04-05-2007, 11:05 PM

Doc/ Mamimo,

Paano kung yung Mistress pala ang nagpro-provide dun sa lalaki?

nakupp...laking problema niyan.

docomo

04-05-2007, 11:10 PM

Doc/ Mamimo,

Paano kung yung Mistress pala ang nagpro-provide dun sa lalaki?

nakupp...laking problema niyan.

bakit naman malaking problema.. eh di gud ~bay! .. hindi sya kawalan .. lalaki lang sya at hindi mo kadugo .. mind you ...there are many fish in the ocean .. :p

mamimo

04-05-2007, 11:20 PM

Doc/ Mamimo,

Paano kung yung Mistress pala ang nagpro-provide dun sa lalaki?

nakupp...laking problema niyan.

cousin ko ganyan situation........ayu n happy si misis sa pera ni mistress at masaya rin si mistress sa pagmamahal ng pinsan ko............and they live happily ever after:confused: life is di ko ma-gets:D

Soju6

04-05-2007, 11:29 PM

Exactly....

I brought it up, kasi assuming agad ang mga tao na lalaki lang ang nag pro-provide, kotse, apartment.

Parang lumalabas agad na kaya siya naging kabit eh dahil lang sa support na makukuha niya sa lalaki.

Thank youuuu...

docomo

04-05-2007, 11:54 PM

There's a big difference sa word na assuming at sa word na pressuming... you might want to consider that .:)

I don't blame people for doing it.. what might be ok for others may not be ok for some.. right ? it's just not my personality... If people hurt me badly then I just shut them out of my life... konti lang ang itatagal ng buhay ko para gawing miserable :p

ABI

04-27-2007, 02:03 PM

"Sa mga kabaro ko who are doing their best to keep their families intact by being the wives and mothers they're suppose to be lalo na sa dito sa Japan where most of the moms are working their butts off real hard to help their husbands in financial matters. Dalawang tanong lang:

1. Ano gagawin mo pag nabalitaan mong may 'kabit' ang asawa mo?

2. Ano ngayon ang tingin at masasabi mo sa babaeng 'kumabit' sa asawa mo?"

Naku nangyari na yan sa akin date, sa una kong asawa. Well, tried to calm myself. Think something makes me stronger and ready myself. Tingin ko doon sa babae nya...PANGIT SYA!:lol:

geminigirl

04-27-2007, 04:57 PM

Not a bad thing. .. I approach my feelings over this situation open minded .. victim or not the only obligation YOU have in life, is the only obligation for YOU to be happy. If YOU are not happy, YOU cannot make someone else happy." :)

this accidentally caught my eye doc. not a bad thing perhaps...for open-minded people like you...for some it may really be a bad, bad thing. in this kind of situation, isn't it that the only obligation to make oneself happy could be absurd by being a mistress? you may be happy, yes, but in what perspective? i can never be happy thinking that this kind of relationship may or can hurt people....the kids...the wife...the whole family. i think knowing that you have a clean conscience will do a lot more to put your mind happy and at ease, at peace. it's the best way for me. and besides, trying to make someone happy is an extremely difficult undertaking...a big gamble, even if you're happy.

sometimes you simply have to let people live the way they choose to live - even if you're positive that they're not getting all the happiness they deserve.....even if you know that what they're doing is wrong....

doc, just my point of view...

docomo

04-27-2007, 06:02 PM

I understand your point gemini girl... I'm very aware that this mistress situation is forbidden ..whatever people may call it..

I don't want to sound judgemental that's why I said victim or not ... real wife or mistress ... walang paglagyan ...

If I'm the wife I wouldn't go making important life decisions on the basis of a piece on the side. I'll just call it a marriage and move on ..
If things are that bad, why stay in the situation? Life is really too short to spend a lot of it unhappy. And I know there are kids involved, but kids aren't dumb, they know when you're unhappy. Why put them through that unhappiness?

Like I said, I'm not trying to be judgemental in anyway. I just think it's silly to continue on when my partner is not happy anymore ..I wouldn't be happy as well ..it would run the risk of hurting so many people by going this route. Splitting up may hurt now, but I don't think it would compare to the whole cheating thing. Just my thoughts on the subject.:)

...sometimes you simply have to let people live the way they choose to live <<<(this is true) even if you know that what they're doing is wrong.... (basta nasa akin lahat magsama sila ) the second line sa akin lang yan and so true!.:p

geminigirl

04-30-2007, 01:07 PM

[quote=docomo;277911]

If I'm the wife I wouldn't go making important life decisions on the basis of a piece on the side. I'll just call it a marriage and move on ..
If things are that bad, why stay in the situation? Life is really too short to spend a lot of it unhappy. And I know there are kids involved, but kids aren't dumb, they know when you're unhappy. Why put them through that unhappiness?

Like I said, I'm not trying to be judgemental in anyway. I just think it's silly to continue on when my partner is not happy anymore ..I wouldn't be happy as well ..it would run the risk of hurting so many people by going this route. Splitting up may hurt now, but I don't think it would compare to the whole cheating thing. Just my thoughts on the subject.:)

- whichever way splitting-up is hurting...with or without a mistress involved. i got you here doc. parang nafi-feel ko, ang nafi-feel mo? :D :p

you're not being judgemental naman. i would do the same thing if i was in that situation. but of course knowing that there's somebody else...the cause of all the hurt...is the worst thing i could think of. it would be better to split-up if you're no longer happy and you want out...

miyuki

04-30-2007, 01:54 PM

[QUOTE=la_tina512;269 470]Pahabol lang po..

Sa mga kabaro ko who are doing their best to keep their families intact by being the wives and mothers they're suppose to be lalo na sa dito sa Japan where most of the moms are working their butts off real hard to help their husbands in financial matters. Dalawang tanong lang:

1. Ano gagawin mo pag nabalitaan mong may 'kabit' ang asawa mo?
answer : this answer is base on my life....and it happened..
when i knew na may other woman and naconfirmed ko.. i almost got crazy .can't eat , can't sleep and always cried . i tried to win him back ..but i felt na mas mahal na nya ang other woman ..to the extent na nung inaway ko ang babae ako pa ang pinagmumura nya . parang binuhusan ng malamig na tubig ang LOVE ko sa kanya at nagdecide ako na humiwalay at kahit anong amo ang gawin nya BUO na ang desisyon ko .NO TURNING BACK!Since then , lesson sa akin yun, na its better ako ang mas minamahal than ako ang nagmamahal.

2. Ano ngayon ang tingin at masasabi mo sa babaeng 'kumabit' sa asawa mo?[/B]
answer : at first I HATED HER!! .. but now I THANK HER .. kasi kung hindi sya dumating sa buhay ng ex - ko maybe im still suffering sa palekerong papa ng mga anak ko. GOOD LUCK! na lang sa kanya and i hope mapabago nya ang ugali ng lalaking sinapo nya sa akin. :p

Now my children are teenagers and I can see , there is no hurt feelings and they grew normally .kase even we seperated , we try to it we MUST become friends and let them feel the love of having a father and mother.. by giving them love thru constant communication. and the only KEY in our friendship is FORGIVENESS & ACCEPTANCE .Life is not a fairytale.

love_ota

04-30-2007, 10:56 PM

ritzyu

05-01-2007, 03:44 PM

Pasingit na nga rin dito...at makisagot na din po.:D

Ano gagawin mo pag nabalitaan mo may "kabit" ang sawa mo?

Pag di siya mapigilan edi sequestered lahat, sa amin lang ng mga anak ko
pinaghirapan naming dalawa...bigay ko na siya sa kabit niya at mag-umpisa
sila ng kanila :p

Ano ngayon ang tingin at masasabi mo sa babaeng kumabit sa asawa?

Maganda at bata siya na nainlab sa me edad na kalbo, di gwapo pero me pera....marami:p
pero kung pogi si lalaki kahit walang pera...no problem si asawa..baka hapi pa...jok :D

Ano gagawin mo pag nalaman mong kabit ka lang pala?

Kung ako ang kabit..para sa akin lang ito ha, naniniwala ako sa
sarili ko na talagang nagmamahalan kami na pinagtagpo lang kami sa maling panahon....
pero di ko naman siya maa-angkin kahit nagka-anak pa ako sa kanya...kaya hihiwalayan
ko pa rin siya...siguro di na rin siya maligaya niyon......... na parang me kulang na rin
sa buhay niya...dahil alam kong kami ng anak niya ang huling piece doon.....sa puzzle
na binubuo niya. :cry: :p

Kaya doon sa nangkakabit at sa kumakabit, mag-isip isip po lamang tayo dahil ma-
raming puso po tayong masusugatan......... ...peace! :p

Autumn

05-01-2007, 09:02 PM

makikisali din............

Ano gagawin mo pag nabalitaan mo may "kabit" ang sawa mo?

pag balita pa lang..syempre imbestiga..pag proven na totoo ano pa hinihintay nya bukas na bukas ang pinto..dahil noon oras na nambabae sya ibig sabihin hindi sya nag isip na may masasaktan sya..hindi sya nag isip na may pinakasalan sya.at may mga anak sila..hindi sya kailangan sa buhay at bahay dahil hindi sya haligi kundi isa syang anay..
hindi rin kailangan ng mga bata ng father image..dahil hindi sya magandang halimbawa..at isa syang marumi at nakakadiring nilalang :mad: ..humayo sya at magpaka sasa..:rolleyes:
Ano ngayon ang tingin at masasabi mo sa babaeng kumabit sa asawa?

kung ano man ang dahilan nya at kumabit sya..bahala sya sa buhay nya..doon sya masaya..let her be...

Ano gagawin mo pag nalaman mong kabit ka lang pala

hiwalayan sya...ora mismo..

ABI

05-02-2007, 10:23 AM

Ano gagawin mo pag nalaman mong kabit ka lang pala?

Kung ako ang kabit..para sa akin lang ito ha, naniniwala ako sa
sarili ko na talagang nagmamahalan kami na pinagtagpo lang kami sa maling panahon....
pero di ko naman siya maa-angkin kahit nagka-anak pa ako sa kanya...kaya hihiwalayan
ko pa rin siya...siguro di na rin siya maligaya niyon......... na parang me kulang na rin
sa buhay niya...dahil alam kong kami ng anak niya ang huling piece doon.....sa puzzle
na binubuo niya. :cry: :p

Ow...Bakit naman kadalasan pag iniwanan ng mistress ang lalaki bumabalik sa asawa nya at mga anak. Kaya happly ever after sila. Kung di man bumalik sa asawa nya, lalaki ay lalaki, babaero ay babaero, naghahanap nalang ng iba. Kelanman ang kabit ay hanggang kabit lang. Sorry sa tutuo lang...:p Aminin....

ritzyu

05-02-2007, 05:24 PM

Ano gagawin mo pag nalaman mong kabit ka lang pala?

Ow...Bakit naman kadalasan pag iniwanan ng mistress ang lalaki bumabalik sa asawa nya at mga anak. Kaya happly ever after sila. Kung di man bumalik sa asawa nya, lalaki ay lalaki, babaero ay babaero, naghahanap nalang ng iba. Kelanman ang kabit ay hanggang kabit lang. Sorry sa tutuo lang...:p Aminin....

Yes, tama ka roon ABI san, kadalasan nga walang kinahihinatnan ang ganyang relasyon..
ako man ay di pabor:) ..... me kakilala kasi akong nagkagustuhan talaga sila, lumayo ang
mag-ina..naisip siguro niya ang kabit ay hanggang kabit lang talaga.....pero si lalaki paminsan minsan nagtatanong sa amin kung me balita kami sa kanila.......na kahit ngayon nasasabi
niya na siguro malaki na ang anak niya rito....hirap daw magmahal ng dalawa sa iisang
panahon.:(...pero syempre kahit ano pa ang sabihin natin..ang bawal ay bawal talaga:)