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dan
05-19-2007, 08:56 PM
Mga Ka-TF, agree ba kayo? Kawawa ang 'pinas? I don't think so.


Poll loss of showbiz people a sign RP voters maturing
Norman Bordadora , Inquirer

MANILA, Philippines -- The dismal performance of movie and TV personalities in the ongoing canvass of votes for 12 senators show the Filipino electorate has moved “a small step” closer to political maturity, social scientists from top Philippine universities said on Friday.

The experts nonetheless agreed that even with comic former Senator Vicente Sotto III and actors Cesar Montano and Richard Gomez faring badly in the polls despite their fame, the recent elections still centered on personalities instead of on issues and proposed reforms.

"There’s a forward-movement," Catholic priest Father Romeo Intengan of the Ateneo de Manila University Center for Strategic Studies said in an interview. "Being a celebrity is no longer a decisive factor in winning an election. You also have to have a track record of performance and ideas for reform."
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Intengan said the "forward movement" toward maturity even resulted in boxing hero Manny Pacuiao getting severely out-pointed in his battle for a congressional with incumbent South Cotabato Representative Darlene Custodio.

Despite his hero persona, Intengan said, Pacquiao failed to project himself as a serious candidate with fresh ideas for governance.

Read more.... (http://eleksyon2007n.inquir er.net/view.php?article=200 70518-66768)

Paul
05-20-2007, 04:44 PM
'Di ko yata naintindihan yung tanong mo.

Agree to what? To their conclusion that the Filipino people are still far from being politically mature? I agree with that.

Pero saan napasok yung "Kawawa ang 'pinas?"

Soju6
05-20-2007, 06:03 PM
Yeheyyyyy mature na ang mga Voters sa pilipinas....Mabuhay !!!!

Ayaw na natin sa mga artista, Mabuhay!!!!!

Gusto na natin sa mga Rebellious Military Officers!!!!.....Mab uhay!!!!!

Nagmature na nga tayo!!! Mabuhay ang Pilipinas!!!!

Ok..sabay sabay 1..2...3....Banzaii, este Mabuhay!!!!

dan
05-22-2007, 07:49 AM
I was asking if you’d agree that Filipinos are moving in the right direction. But, yes there are a number of points raised in the artik that one can find agreeable or disagreeable. For example, I don’t agree with Intengan’s implicit assertion that a sign of political maturity is to have political parties based on ideological dynamics LIKE what they have in Europe. If you agree that the Japanese are politically mature, you’d find that their major political parties are not necessarily based on traditional ideological dynamics (left/right, liberal/conservative).

I believe the Philippines is moving in the right direction, but let us be patient for this is going to be a slow process. As I mentioned in a post in this forum (http://www.timog.com/forum/showthread.php?t=102 65), the Japanese had to undergo a number of civil wars before they became a nation. They became a nation first before they became a world leader in technology and business. Nagsisimula pa lang tayo. I just don’t agree that at this stage we should be thinking “kawawa ang pinas,” like some of the members of this forum tend to believe.

shintaro
06-20-2008, 07:17 PM
Mga Ka-TF, agree ba kayo?
Poll loss of showbiz people a sign RP voters maturing
Norman Bordadora , Inquirer



i don't think so. i don't want to sound pessimistic but that's how i observe it. a lot of those who win in the 2007 election are politicians who are endorse by showbiz personalities. kapag walang media mileage kahit magaling ang isang kandidato, hindi nananalo or mahirap manalo.

let's face it, sa 2010 election...sa pagpili ng standard bearer ng mga partido ay winnability over ability. and can be translated all the way to the voting public...you may observe too, the way our ka-TFs vote in some polls here and you will get some pictures if we, as voters matured in voting.;)

slovet27
06-21-2008, 07:33 PM
in my own opinion,ayoko ng artista turned politicians...kz lalo lang gumagrabeh ung situation ng economy sa pinas.i dont wnt to be rude,but we should face the truth.hnd ko naman sinasabi na all of them..pero gumugulo ung politics ng pinas.kz ngiging showbiz na.pacencia na h..i just want to tell my opinions.thanks po...:)

slovet27
06-22-2008, 10:00 AM
i dont think kawawa ang pinas..