Gaano kahirap ang buhay sa Pilipinas?

[Hensoldt]

Marami sa atin ang nagsasabi na mahirap ang buhay sa Pilipinas na para bang ang Pilipinas na ang pinakamahirap, pinakamarumi, pinaka-corrupt na bansa sa mundo. Pero kung susuriin mabuti, mayaman naman ang Pilipinas sa natural resources, even richer than Japan, may mga dating dayuhan na nakipagsapalarang makarating sa Pilipinas at umunlad ang kanilang mga buhay (mga Tsinoys), bakit karamihan sa kanila nakayang paunlarin ang kanilang pamumuhay? Ano ba ang sekreto nila?

[summergirl]

Dear alam mo actually bukang bibig na ng ibang pilipino iyon,OO mayaman ang bansa natin,we have evrything kaya lang kulang pa rin sa pag susumikap.At disiplina..Ang mga tsinoy naman na sinasabi mo,ang bawat intsik na may mahirap na buhay tinutulungan ng mga kamag anak nila para makapag umpisa ng negosyo at tulungan silang mga intsik..Kahit sampera super tipid talaga sila when business is concern.

[Hensoldt]

Eh kung gayahin ng mga Pinoy ang ginagawa ng mga Tsinoy, di uunlad din ang kanilang mga buhay? Sa tingin ko posible yon.

Nakakatawa ngang isipin na ang mga Pinoy gustong-gustong lisanin ang Pinas, pero itong mga illegal Chinese from the mainland eh nagsisipagdatingan. :D Ewan ko lang how true ha, pero yon ang naririnig ko about the illegal mainlanders.

Speaking of illegals, how are we dealing with the influx of those illegals. :eek: Kung totoo man yun.

[katty0531]

Sa tingin ko obvious na sa pag uugali na yan naka depende ang pag unlad ng isang bansa, ugali ng mga mamamayan, kahit gaano pa ka yaman ang isang bansa kung ang mga nakatira iba ang prinsipyo sa buhay pano uunlad?
Ang hirap mag kompara (chinese sa pinoy) at lalong mahirap gumaya nang pag uugali.
Di kayang gayahin, i think, sa kakuriputan pa lang mga mga chinese pag dating sa negosyo, mahirap kaya yon.

[Hensoldt]

^ I agree. Correlated ang condition ng isang sovereign country sa attitude ng kanyng mamamayan, especially in a democracy like the Philippines. Kung karamihan ay apathetic o walang pakiaalam except yung pansariling kapakanan lang, eh wala talagang mangyayaring collective progress.

Ey, di lang Tsinoy ang kuripot ha. Ever met an Ilocano? Makukunat din sila :D
No offense my Ilocano bros, and it's not necessarily a bad thing. :)

Pero sa akin lang ha, tingin ko mas mainam maging makunat minsan kaysa doon sa mga one day millionaire types. Yun bang waldas lahat ang pinaghirapan sa isang iglap.

At sa tingin ko, hindi rin imposibleng gawing halimbawa ang magagandang traits ng mga Tsinoy, basta iwaksi ang mga not so desirable attributes nila.

[la_tina512]

Marami sa atin ang nagsasabi na mahirap ang buhay sa Pilipinas na para bang ang Pilipinas na ang pinakamahirap, pinakamarumi, pinaka-corrupt na bansa sa mundo. Pero kung susuriin mabuti, mayaman naman ang Pilipinas sa natural resources, even richer than Japan, may mga dating dayuhan na nakipagsapalarang makarating sa Pilipinas at umunlad ang kanilang mga buhay (mga Tsinoys), bakit karamihan sa kanila nakayang paunlarin ang kanilang pamumuhay? Ano ba ang sekreto nila?

They have the goal to get rich and the determination to attain that goal. Determination is the number one factor to reach one's goal. Marami na rin naman tayong mga kuwento ng buhay na mga galing sa wala pero nakilala at yumaman because of their determination. Walang imposible sa isang determinadong tao lalo na at naka-focus sa ambisyon at pangarap na makaalis sa kahirapan. Gagawin ng isang determinadong tao ang lahat ng paraan para marating ang mga pangarap niya sa buhay.

We were not born rich. Pero lahat kaming magkakapatid nakarating ng college through hard work. My elder siblings through scholarship and part time jobs sweat it out. Ako naman started to work at the age of 17 and went through college on my own. Lahat kasi kami determinadong may marating.

Sa mga chinese, every cent counts. Kahit naman siguro sinong tao na pinaghirapan ang pera hindi basta maglalabas sa mga walang kuwentang bagay. We, Filipinos have this trait na todo pasa. Meron din tayong isang bahagi ng ating kultura na hindi ko gusto at in-apply ko sa aking mga kapatid. Hindi masamang tumulong pero pag nagiging accessory ka na para hindi kumilos ang isang tao at umasa na lang na parang linta, hindi na maganda 'yon. Maraming ganyan sa atin (tamaan po huwag magagalit). Porke nasa Japan kahit magkandakuba na sige pa rin ang padala sa mga kamag-anak na umasa na lang at hindi na nagsikap. Papano nga ba uunlad ang ating bansa? Nasa nagpapasunod at sumusunod ang ikauunlad ng kahit na anong bansa. Pero malaking bahagi ang ginagampanan ng mga mamamayan nito. Kung magiging determinado lang ang bawa't isa siguro makakaahon sa hirap ang ating bansang Pilipinas.

[katty0531]

^
Ey, di lang Tsinoy ang kuripot ha. Ever met an Ilocano? Makukunat din sila :D
No offense my Ilocano bros, and it's not necessarily a bad thing. :)



True, may auntie kasi ako Ilocana...hinahangaa n ko sya sa pagdadala ng pamilya nya at sa pera (sya kasi nag wo work).:D

Obserbasyon ko lang simula nong tumira ako dito sa Japan, baket kaya dito kahit ordinaryong mamamayan lang di naman as in sobrang hirap, at sa palaging sinasabi ng asawa ko, ang pera pag nag trabaho ka makikita at makikita mo pa yon, importante daw kenko (health) yon number 1 sa kanya, kasi pag nagkasakit tapos...:D pero saten, i will set my brother as an example, government employee (regular)...maraming benefits (bonus twice a year,pabahay ect.) maganda sweldo kasi nasa bureau.. pero handa syang talikuran yon maka pag abroad lang...why??? yan ang hindi ko alam, single pa sya feel pa rin nya mahirap sa Pinas, how much more kung mag aasawa pa at bubuhay ng mga anak. Maybe because of his behavior na rin, pero isa lang alam ko matataas, matatayog ang pangarap ng mga Pinoy.:D

[Hensoldt]

They have the goal to get rich and the determination to attain that goal. Determination is the number one factor to reach one's goal. Marami na rin naman tayong mga kuwento ng buhay na mga galing sa wala pero nakilala at yumaman because of their determination. Walang imposible sa isang determinadong tao lalo na at naka-focus sa ambisyon at pangarap na makaalis sa kahirapan. Gagawin ng isang determinadong tao ang lahat ng paraan para marating ang mga pangarap niya sa buhay.
Yes. A driven and goal-oriented populace is definitely a factor in a nation's well-being. And in an ethically sound and honorable way of course.

We were not born rich. Pero lahat kaming magkakapatid nakarating ng college through hard work. My elder siblings through scholarship and part time jobs sweat it out. Ako naman started to work at the age of 17 and went through college on my own. Lahat kasi kami determinadong may marating.
Isa yaan sa mga aspeto ng ating kultura at ipinamamalas ng ilan nating mga kababayan ang pinagmamalaki ko. Ang pagpapahalaga sa edukasyon, kahit na ba'y gumagapang na eh sige pa rin ang pagsusunog ng kilay.
Pero lately mukhang nababawasan na, sana maagapan habang hindi pa huli.

Meron din tayong isang bahagi ng ating kultura na hindi ko gusto at in-apply ko sa aking mga kapatid. Hindi masamang tumulong pero pag nagiging accessory ka na para hindi kumilos ang isang tao at umasa na lang na parang linta, hindi na maganda 'yon. Maraming ganyan sa atin (tamaan po huwag magagalit). Porke nasa Japan kahit magkandakuba na sige pa rin ang padala sa mga kamag-anak na umasa na lang at hindi na nagsikap. Papano nga ba uunlad ang ating bansa? Nasa nagpapasunod at sumusunod ang ikauunlad ng kahit na anong bansa. Pero malaking bahagi ang ginagampanan ng mga mamamayan nito. Kung magiging determinado lang ang bawa't isa siguro makakaahon sa hirap ang ating bansang Pilipinas.
Nakup! :mad: Isa pa yan sa mga nagiging hadlang sa ating personal development. Don't get me wrong, hindi masama ang tumulong sa kapwa, lalo na sa mga kamag-anak, pero dapat may limitasyon, set some boundaries. Hindi lang dapat puro asa sa "breadwinner" at dapat tinutulungan din nila ang kanilang mga sarili. They have to aspire to be "breadwinners" themselves.

A famous fisherman once said...:p

"Give a man a fish, and you'd feed him for a day. But teach a man to fish, then you'd feed him for life."

[angela777]

i agree wit you la tina san................. .ang alam ko din sa mga chinese pagdating sa pamilya kanya-kanyang sikap sa buhay nila........may mga kaibigan akung chinese sa pinas contenue ang mga negusyo nila at mapera,isa kasi sa secreto nila parang sinasamba nila ang pera kahit 100p lang yan mahalaga yan sakanila lalo na pag negosyante,nilalagay nila ang pera sa tamang pag gamit,tas kahit sa pagkain super tipid sila,ang kaibigan kung chinese kahit mapera sya gusto pa magpahanap sakin hapon daw:D ,single mother kasi sya 4 ang anak nya pero velieve ako sa chinese nayun magaling sya sa negusyo.

[Hensoldt]

Obserbasyon ko lang simula nong tumira ako dito sa Japan, baket kaya dito kahit ordinaryong mamamayan lang di naman as in sobrang hirap, at sa palaging sinasabi ng asawa ko, ang pera pag nag trabaho ka makikita at makikita mo pa yon, importante daw kenko (health) yon number 1 sa kanya, kasi pag nagkasakit tapos...:D
Oo nga, kapag nagkaroon ng malubhang karamdaman ang isang tao, either na hindi niya ma-enjoy ang pinaghirapan niya or mapunta lang sa pagpapagamot ng kanyang sakit. Wala rin. :(
Kaya dapat gawin natin ang magkaroon ng magandang kalusugan as one of our major priorities in life.

pero saten, i will set my brother as an example, government employee (regular)...maraming benefits (bonus twice a year,pabahay ect.) maganda sweldo kasi nasa bureau.. pero handa syang talikuran yon maka pag abroad lang...why??? yan ang hindi ko alam, single pa sya feel pa rin nya mahirap sa Pinas, how much more kung mag aasawa pa at bubuhay ng mga anak. Maybe because of his behavior na rin, pero isa lang alam ko matataas, matatayog ang pangarap ng mga Pinoy.:D
Ambisyosyo nga talaga ang mga Pinoy. Kahit dito sa US, mga doctor sa atin, pero nagpupumulit pa rin makapunta at makapagtrabaho dito kahit na as a nurse. Pero sa tingin ko, ibang ambitiousness meron tayo eh. Yun bang gusto natin mag-shortcut kung baga. Ayaw nating dumaan sa butas ng karayom, ika nga. Karamihan sa atin hindi alam na sa pagdaan sa butas ng karayom ay doon natin maa-acquire ang mga katangiang kailangan sa pag-unlad ng ating buhay, not just financially, but personally as well. It builds character ika nga.

Ako din umalis ng Pinas, so I'm no exception. :O
Hindi naman ako kating-kati umalis, i was offered an opportunity and I took it. Pero minsan nagui-guilty pa rin ako. Iniisip ko na lang na I'm doing this to gain more knowledge and funds, which one day I will give back to my homeland.
Pero ngayon naiisip ko na kung gagawin natin ang Pilipinas gaya ng mga bansang inaasam nating mamuhay at tirahan, eh di hindi na nating kailangang mangibang bansa at lisanin ang lupang sinilangan at kinalakihan.

[katty0531]

Ambisyosyo nga talaga ang mga Pinoy. Kahit dito sa US, mga doctor sa atin, pero nagpupumulit pa rin makapunta at makapagtrabaho dito kahit na as a nurse. Pero sa tingin ko, ibang ambitiousness meron tayo eh. Yun bang gusto natin mag-shortcut kung baga. Ayaw nating dumaan sa butas ng karayom, ika nga. Karamihan sa atin hindi alam na sa pagdaan sa butas ng karayom ay doon natin maa-acquire ang mga katangiang kailangan sa pag-unlad ng ating buhay, not just financially, but personally as well. It builds character ika nga.


Pero ngayon naiisip ko na kung gagawin natin ang Pilipinas gaya ng mga bansang inaasam nating mamuhay at tirahan, eh di hindi na nating kailangang mangibang bansa at lisanin ang lupang sinilangan at kinalakihan.

Very true.:)

[la_tina512]

A famous fisherman once said...:p

"Give a man a fish, and you'd feed him for a day. But teach a man to fish, then you'd feed him for life."

Precisely! I'll make that my signature... :D (Hope you don't mind.)

[Hensoldt]

Precisely! I'll make that my signature... :D (Hope you don't mind.)

Feel free to do so. I got that from the fisherman dude anyway. ;)

[engkanto]

Many Theologians now believe Adam and Eve were Filipinos. Why? Because they had no job, nothing decent to wear, no rice and still thought they lived in paradise! :D

[Hensoldt]

Many Theologians now believe Adam and Eve were Filipinos. Why? Because they had no job, nothing decent to wear, no rice and still thought they lived in paradise! :D

They succumbed to their ignorance, greed and weakness and failed to appreciate what they had and threw everything away. :(

[gaya-gaya]

I agree with all of you. But let us make this discussion one step higher.

We also have to consider that there is this global competition going on, and the market is not anymore centered in domestic issues but global competitiveness. Check the products we are using in the Philippines. Nabubuhay ang economy ng Pinas due to import goods, pati ang perang nagpapatakbo ng ekonomiya, majority ay nakabase sa remittances ng OFW. Kawawa naman ang micro businesses sa Pinas dahil sa stiff competition. And considering that we have this western mentality (basta kahit ano wag lang Pinoy products, pathetic!), for sure matatakot ang maliliit na businesses na magtake ng chances. Usually, they will just do retail business, but not manufacture. Unlike here in Japan, that they are known globally as no.1 in electronic products and cars manufacturer/ provider.

Isa pa, mas mahirap ang mga pinoy sa Pinas kasi magkawork ka man, di sapat yun para mabili mo ang mga bagay na gusto mo sa buhay. Kasi ang mga bagay na gusto mong bilhin, karamihan ay iniaangkat sa dayuhan. Sa pamasahe pa lang papuntang opisina, di na kasya ang sueldo mo. So anong gagawin mo, maghanap ng work sa labas ng bansa para makakuha nang mas malaking suweldo.

Marami sa mga kaibigan ko ang gustong magkaron nang matinong trabaho na makakabuhay sa pamilya nila. Pero eto ung mga napansin kong problema ng pinoy na mauugat sa pagkabata (eto lang ung main na napansin ko, pero marami pang ibang factors):

1. Edukasyon at Kamangmangan -- if only Pinoys value education at an early age and this is instilled by the mentors, be parents or teachers, they have a greater chance to compete better in life. If you dont have this, you should better have:

2. Guts to start small businesses - sadly, few Pinoys venture to business due to lack of experience and opportunity. Again going back to the first discussion on global competitiveness, Philippines play very low in global markets. And for the same reason, few Pinoys wanted to start businesses.

So they would rather be dakilang OFW in order to send money to families. This is also in hope that their children can have better quality education, as a key to change life for the better. (Because way #2 is far difficult to achieve.) Bottom line, masipag ang pinoy kung may matinong work sa Pinas. Pero wala, kaya nawawalan na lang siya ng ganang maghanap....

How can a win-win situation be achieved in our country? Attack the issues of #1 and #2. Pero syempre, kailangan muna ng Pinoy na magising sa katotohanan na nasa isang bangka lang siya kasama ng mga kapwa niya Pinoy. Watak watak pa ring tayong mag-isip. Kanya-kanya pa rin. At hindi pa rin tayo collective magtrabaho. In order to this, we need this PAMBANSANG KAMALAYAN. We need to have LOVE FOR OUR COUNTRY. And we must have COLLECTIVE EFFORTS to do so. Another one, POLITICAL WILL.

At napansin ko sa mga Pinoy, sanay nang umasa. Okay na sa kanya ang "ganyang lang" dahil mas nahihiya siyang malaman na siya ay mangmang, kesa aminin niya ang kanyang kamangmangan at magsimula dun. Ganun pa rin, ang attack pa rin, pagbabago sa pagkatao ng Pinoy...:(

[ryu4192000]

This is a very nice thread. Kudos to Hensoldt! :thumb:

Gaya-gaya san gave 2 very good points kung bakit maraming naghihirap sa Pilipinas. First is education. This is a gimme. I think everyone is aware that something has to be done. It's always easy to blame the gov't pero sabi nga nila "it takes a community to raise a child". We all have to pitch in.

Second, "guts to start a small business" is related din sa first point. However, things are slowly changing in the Philippines. More and more Pinoys are venturing into the business world. I personally have some friends who had succeeded and have some inspiring stories to tell. Though we still see many failed ventures, but this is true for any business naman not only in Pinas.
"Find a need, fill a need". Kadalasan na failure ng business sa atin is due to gaya-gaya attitude nating mga Pinoy. I remember before there were litson manok at every corner, now the same thing can be said about internet cafes.
So I guess our business intelligence is still a work in progress but at least more and more people are getting the idea that not only can they improve their lives but at the same time help the country.

One factor I would like to add that is a little closer to home is migration. Some of us try not to raise this issue dahil masyadong malapit sa puso:D, but working abroad should only be a stop-gap or short-term goal. But for some of us this becomes the the long-term or worst the permanent solution. We readily say na we are helping with our remittance, pero we sometimes tend to forget that there are other factors that are nullifying our sacrifices abroad. Brain-drain, our country is suffering from it now, the education problem is partly due to the lack of "qualified" teachers - who have either already left the country or those who chose other courses just because it will be his/her ticket to go abroad. We lack doctors, and sadly even nurses considering we produce a lot. Our country needs it middle class, its professionals. For us OFW's we need to give something back other than remittance - our country needs us to come home (hopefully wiser and smarter with lots of stories/knowledge to share). ;)

[jam]

as for me po mayaman ang pilipinas kaya lang imbis lahat tayo umangat dahil sa yaman ng ating bayan eh mga corrupt na pulitiko lang ang yumayaman kasi ang perang dapat ay para satin naibubulsa na lang...

[Hensoldt]

^ Pero sino ba yung sumusuporta at bumuboto doon sa mga corrupt o incompetent na politiko? Tayo rin di ba?
At kung lantaran na nga ang pangungurakot at katiwalian nila pero pikit mata pa rin tayo, o sadya lang walang pakialam, eh di patuloy pa rin nilang gagawin yung pandarambong.

We get abused because we let them to. We do nothing about it.

[Hensoldt]

1. Edukasyon at Kamangmangan -- if only Pinoys value education at an early age and this is instilled by the mentors, be parents or teachers, they have a greater chance to compete better in life. If you dont have this, you should better have:

2. Guts to start small businesses - sadly, few Pinoys venture to business due to lack of experience and opportunity. Again going back to the first discussion on global competitiveness, Philippines play very low in global markets. And for the same reason, few Pinoys wanted to start businesses.

So they would rather be dakilang OFW in order to send money to families. This is also in hope that their children can have better quality education, as a key to change life for the better. (Because way #2 is far difficult to achieve.) Bottom line, masipag ang pinoy kung may matinong work sa Pinas. Pero wala, kaya nawawalan na lang siya ng ganang maghanap....

How can a win-win situation be achieved in our country? Attack the issues of #1 and #2. Pero syempre, kailangan muna ng Pinoy na magising sa katotohanan na nasa isang bangka lang siya kasama ng mga kapwa niya Pinoy. Watak watak pa ring tayong mag-isip. Kanya-kanya pa rin. At hindi pa rin tayo collective magtrabaho. In order to this, we need this PAMBANSANG KAMALAYAN. We need to have LOVE FOR OUR COUNTRY. And we must have COLLECTIVE EFFORTS to do so. Another one, POLITICAL WILL.


Gaya-gaya san gave 2 very good points kung bakit maraming naghihirap sa Pilipinas. First is education. This is a gimme. I think everyone is aware that something has to be done. It's always easy to blame the gov't pero sabi nga nila "it takes a community to raise a child". We all have to pitch in.

Excellent points, guys! :king:

Idagdag ko lang ito kung bakit maraming mga tao at mga batang naghihirap sa Pilipinas. Number 1 reason is the fact that the poor keeps on multiplying. Hirap na nga buhayin ang sarili nila, eh magluluwal pa ng mga bata sa mundo. Eh di kawawang bata ang labas. :ohlord:
Tama kayo, halos lahat ng bagay sa ating buhay ay nagmumula at nahuhubog sa ating pagkabata. Kaya responsibilidad ng mga mabuting magulang na itaguyod ang kanilang mga anak at tustusan ang kanilang pangangailangan, hindi lang financial at material, equally important ang family cohesion and emotional support.

[mamimo]

May mga Pinoy din na mali ang priority sa buhay, I know this family may celphone ang magkakapatid pero lagi nautang dahil wala daw silang pambili ng pagkain. I dont understand what`s the use of their phones kung wala naman laman ang tyan? People like these should be educated to the basic economic concepts of needs and wants.:)

[april]

May mga Pinoy din na mali ang priority sa buhay, I know this family may celphone ang magkakapatid pero lagi nautang dahil wala daw silang pambili ng pagkain. I dont understand what`s the use of their phones kung wala naman laman ang tyan? People like these should be educated to the basic economic concepts of needs and wants.:)

marami nga nyan sa pinas:( meron din mga one day millionaire ika nga hindi iniisip yung
bukas basta makakain ngayon ok na yung bukas bahala na.

[gaya-gaya]

Excellent points, guys! :king:

Idagdag ko lang ito kung bakit maraming mga tao at mga batang naghihirap sa Pilipinas. Number 1 reason is the fact that the poor keeps on multiplying. Hirap na nga buhayin ang sarili nila, eh magluluwal pa ng mga bata sa mundo. Eh di kawawang bata ang labas. :ohlord:

* This one is another case of mis-education and ignorance. Only if couples are educated of safe-sex and birth controls, they can still enjoy it with care.

Ang isang pangit pa sa pag-iisip ng mga Pinoy, ginagawang securities nila ang mga anak nila. Sa kanilang pagtanda, iniisip nila na may mag-aalaga sa kanila at may magsu-support. Mali di ba? "Ang anak ay di ko anak, ngunit anak siya ng kanyang lipunan..." sabi nga ni Kahlil Gibran.

Tama kayo, halos lahat ng bagay sa ating buhay ay nagmumula at nahuhubog sa ating pagkabata. Kaya responsibilidad ng mga mabuting magulang na itaguyod ang kanilang mga anak at tustusan ang kanilang pangangailangan, hindi lang financial at material, equally important ang family cohesion and emotional support.

This is an interesting thread. I hope most of the readers get to read these and in a way, help each other to have this collective thoughts about our country.:dogpile:

Yup, family cohesion and support is very much important in bringing up good citizens of our country. But with the rising issues of separated families due to the OFW phenomenon, the children are still suffering from the lack of role models. Minsan, akala nila, (sabi nga ng pumanaw kong ina), baka nangigitlog lang tayo ng ginto. The social impact of foreign workers is also alarming, considering that families are separated by distance and time. Hindi rin kaila sa atin, na maraming broken families. I think it is also an open secret while in overseas, that married pinoys be a male or female, have their relationships here just to get through it. Sadly, these create an irrevocable damage in the family. So we go back to the same banana... the same cycle on Philippine dilemma of kahirapan.

We gain some, we loose some. Lahat talaga ng bagay, may kapalit. Pero sana mabalanse lang nang tama:D. SImple lang naman ang hangarin ng Pinoy e. Gusto lang niya na mabago nang konti ang buhay niya at nang kapamilya niya. Ganun lang. Sana nga, sa kalidad ng pamumuhay at hindi sa mga bagay na kayang bilhin ng pera.

Pero sa totoo lang, kahit ganun tayo, masarap maging Pinoy. Masayahin, madaling tumawa, palangiti kahit may problema. Yung malakas na tawanan ang namimiss ko sa kultura natin, na bihira kong makita sa mga Hapon dito.

[infinite_trial]

Pero kung susuriin mabuti, mayaman naman ang Pilipinas sa natural resources

even africa is rich in natural resources. so it means having a lot of resources doesn't make a country rich.

we rank 97 in the index of economic freedom 2007 (http://www.heritage.org/research/features/index/country.cfm?id=Phili ppines)
maybe our government should examine the factors that affect our economy...including corruption, of course.

[Hensoldt]

even africa is rich in natural resources. so it means having a lot of resources doesn't make a country rich.
If managed properly it can (United States), but if not (Africa), then the corrupt local despots and other countries are the ones who'll benefit from it tremendously.


we rank 97 in the index of economic freedom 2007 (http://www.heritage.org/research/features/index/country.cfm?id=Phili ppines)
maybe our government should examine the factors that affect our economy...including corruption, of course.
From the data provided by that site, we can see what areas of our economy and government in need of reform. That's a good site, thanks.

[Hensoldt]

By Roel Landingin in Manila

She hardly speaks any English or Tagalog but that does not stop the white-haired grandmother from China’s southern Fujian province from running her clothes store in Divisoria, Manila’s bargain shopping centre. She has three Filipina assistants and she haggles with customers via a calculator.

Like many of the shop- owners in the “168” mall – which, in Cantonese, sounds like “prosperity all the way” – the grandmother is a recent arrival from China and part of a new wave of immigrants who have arrived in the Philippines.

The woman refuses to give her name but says she landed in Manila in 2002 from the southern city of Shishi with her son and his wife, who were escaping China’s one-child policy. The couple had a second child in the Philippines and plan to eventually return to Fujian, where the husband runs a clothing factory. Another son and his wife followed for the same reason and are awaiting the birth of their second child. The clothes store was set up to generate an income while they prepare their return to China.

The family are part of a wave of immigrants leaving China even as rapid economic growth is transforming the world’s most populous nation. Most head to the US, Canada and other rich western countries, often as illegal aliens. But each year thousands also seek to make their fortunes in a middle-income country growing only half as fast as China.

The trend has created an immigration paradox. The Philippines, perhaps best-known in recent years for its outgoing migrants, has become a destination for immigrants in its own right.

Read more (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/194f1172-3a01-11dc-9d73-0000779fd2ac.html)

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A paradox indeed. Filipinos are itching to get out, while foreigners are so eager to get in.
Oh the humanity! :doh:

[honey]

Marami sa atin ang nagsasabi na mahirap ang buhay sa Pilipinas na para bang ang Pilipinas na ang pinakamahirap, pinakamarumi, pinaka-corrupt na bansa sa mundo. Pero kung susuriin mabuti, mayaman naman ang Pilipinas sa natural resources, even richer than Japan, may mga dating dayuhan na nakipagsapalarang makarating sa Pilipinas at umunlad ang kanilang mga buhay (mga Tsinoys), bakit karamihan sa kanila nakayang paunlarin ang kanilang pamumuhay? Ano ba ang sekreto nila?


Kasi ang mga intsik masipag kahit jiz o 10cents lang kinikita nila sa negosyo sapat na sa kanila pera pa rin yon.Tingnanan nyo na lang sa buong mundo lahat ng gamit MADE IN CHINA paano ba naman mura pasweldo sa mga intsik bukod don masipag pa sila.Mga Filipino gusto malaki ang sweldo na tama lang naman kase mahal bilihin sa atin kesa sa sweldo na kakaunti:D,lagi raw late ang mga pilipino sa trabaho,maluho at tamad:D.

[aj_4983]

may mga dating dayuhan na nakipagsapalarang makarating sa Pilipinas at umunlad ang kanilang mga buhay (mga Tsinoys), bakit karamihan sa kanila nakayang paunlarin ang kanilang pamumuhay? Ano ba ang sekreto nila?

Karamihan sa mga dayuhang yun e may mga business...Sa una pa lang they have the chance na paunlarin ang mga buhay nila. Dahil may pera sila. But still me pagkikipagsapalaran pa din choosing that field.(abt business)either they will succeed or not.
their secrets? money( meron sila nito for starting a business
goals( siguro balak talaga nilang umunlad kc goal nila ang mag-succeed)

[kirei]

share ko lang po ang videos na ito. hope you'd find time to watch. also to give you an idea kung "Gaano kahirap ang buhay sa Pilipinas"


part 1

pum5FAAwf98


part 2
jIt4ZFcg2RA


part 3
Uh2R26e-tEM


part 4
y7l3EHFkpao


part 5
m48RGct9X9E

[eagles008]

my heart bleeds!nakakapanlumo !matindi talaga ang corruption sa atin.masyadong maraming linta!however,it is not the end of the world.we cannot change the government,situation ,etc. but we can change our selves & attitude!its not what happens,it is what we do w/ what happened.5 yrs. ago i was broke.now i am better off.the government is still the same...but i changed!if its gonna be,its up to me!let us set a better sail !

[Hensoldt]

share ko lang po ang videos na ito. hope you'd find time to watch. also to give you an idea kung "Gaano kahirap ang buhay sa Pilipinas"


part 1

pum5FAAwf98

...

Kawawang mga bata. Kalunoslunos talaga ang kalagayan nila. :(

Pansin ko lang ha. Those malnourished children have 1 thing in common. Stupid and irresponsible parents. :mad: Kung mamalasin nga naman talaga, pagkasilang pa lang dito sa mundo, eh mangmang at irresponsableng magulang ang sasalubong.

Hirap na nga sa buhay, eh bakit mag-aanak pa nang napakarami. Ni hindi mapakain at ang ipapa-dede kape instead na gatas. :eek:

Imbes na dalhin sa center, eh sa albularyo dinadala dahil na-nuno daw. :ohlord:

Eh dapat niyan sugpuin ng gobyerno ang mga nuno na nagpapahirap sa mga tao. :rolleyes:

[kirei]

my heart bleeds!nakakapanlumo !matindi talaga ang corruption sa atin.masyadong maraming linta!however,it is not the end of the world.we cannot change the government,situation ,etc. but we can change our selves & attitude!its not what happens,it is what we do w/ what happened.5 yrs. ago i was broke.now i am better off.the government is still the same...but i changed!if its gonna be,its up to me!let us set a better sail !


I agree.. kasi kung aasahan natin ang gobyerno natin mananatili lang tayong mahirap.. kailangan talaga mas magsumikap dahil wala din talagang ibang maaasahan kundi mga sarili rin natin.. sa atin din nakasalalay ang sarili nating kinabukasan..

[kirei]

Kawawang mga bata. Kalunoslunos talaga ang kalagayan nila. :(

Pansin ko lang ha. Those malnourished children have 1 thing in common. Stupid and irresponsible parents. :mad: Kung mamalasin nga naman talaga, pagkasilang pa lang dito sa mundo, eh mangmang at irresponsableng magulang ang sasalubong.

Hirap na nga sa buhay, eh bakit mag-aanak pa nang napakarami. Ni hindi mapakain at ang ipapa-dede kape instead na gatas. :eek:


Yan din talaga ang problema sa ibang mga kababayan natin, kahit hindi na kaya, bahala na system. bahala na kung may mapapakain, o kung may pang-aaral, kaya mas marami ang nagugutom at malnourished na bata ngayon. kung tutuusin wala namang ibang maaasahan dahil nga corrupt ang gobyerno natin.. :(

[eagles008]

[quote=kirei;330248]share ko lang po ang videos na ito. hope you'd find time to watch. also to give you an idea kung "Gaano kahirap ang buhay sa Pilipinas
Thanks for sharing the video.Eye opener.Nakakalungkot din ang mga magulang na alam na ngang mahirap ang buhay,anak pa ng anak Disaster for the kids!I know Africa /Ethiopia as the world's having the most malnourished peolple but the Phil. as the no.2,close 2nd i.e.To the max na nga ang kahirapan sa 'tin.

[Hensoldt]

Some data I gathered online.

Number of undernourished people (million) in 2001-2003, according to the FAO, the following countries had 5 million or more undernourished people.http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w193/Hensoldt/Malnutrition.jpg

Percentage population undernourished world map.
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w193/Hensoldt/MapMaln.jpg

Percentage population living on less than 1 dollar day.
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w193/Hensoldt/MapPov.jpg

By looking at the data, we'll see that the Philippines is somewhere in the middle of both the malnutrition and poverty level of the developing countries around the world. But 1 malnourished child and 1 extremely poor family is already one too many.

[Hensoldt]

ONE of the compelling success stories of our times is the “Singapore Story.” The Singapore model is a standard that many developing countries would like to achieve because it has one of the more effective governments in the world.

One of the reasons cited by political scientists of developing countries who can only look with envy is that Singapore is relatively easy to govern because of its size and population. But it is a little more complex than that. A study by two former Singaporean academics showed this. They now work with the public sector, which means they do a lot of work for what we usually refer to as the “private sector” although they work closely with the government or the “public sector” as we ordinarily know it. In Britain, where its government is patterned after, public schools are private schools.

Boon Siong Neo is former dean and Geraldine Chen, a former sub-dean of the Nanyang Business School of the Nanyang Technological University of Singapore. Nanyang is a government university. Neo and Chen looked into how Singapore was able to put together an effective government in 42 years and join the developed nations of the world. The thrust of their study is that of effective management, the objective of business. In Dynamic Governance: Embedding Culture, Capabilities and Change in Singapore, Neo and Chen look into the civil service system, the key to effective governance operations...

Read more (http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2007/aug/24/yehey/opinion/20070824opi7.html)

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A dominant single political party in the Philippines?
Maybe, if the leaders are nationalistic, competent and honest who have the best interests of the country in mind. It worked in Singapore, Taiwan, and S. Korea, so why not in the Philippines? It's just too bad that the Marcos regime left a bitter aftertaste of such a system to the psyche of Filipinos.

[Hensoldt]

Bearing in mind South Korea’s experience, I’d say both leadership and infrastructure-building are crucial to a country’s economic progress. When Gen. Park Chung-hee seized power in Seoul through a military coup in 1961, he made infrastructure-building the centerpiece of his vision of economic development. Once you have the infrastructure, everything else would follow, he said. He also created an Economic Planning Board to provide the central government a direction on how to steer the Korean economy up the road to progress; and he made the Heavy and Chemical Industries Promotion Plan as the key to developing six strategic industries.

Park made the industrialization of his impoverished country the prevailing passion of his 18 years in power. He found economic cronies in people who had “can-do” entrepreneurial spirit and consuming love for their country, such as Chung Ju-yung, the late founder of Hyundai.

Interestingly, the periods in which Ferdinand Marcos and Park were in power overlapped 13 years. Park was ruler of South Korea from 1961 until his assassination by his own intelligence chief in 1979. Marcos took office on Dec. 30, 1965 and was deposed by people power in February 1986. Thus, the two authoritarian leaders were the masters of their respective countries’ fate, with Marcos wielding absolute power for 13 years (September 1972- February 1986). Those 13 years could have been the golden era for the transformation of the Philippines, as the “Park years” were for Korea. What the two rulers did for their country was a study in contrast. Sadly, our leader then and we ourselves were -- and still are -- the tools of our own undoing.

Read more (http://opinion.inquirer.net/inquireropinion/letterstotheeditor/view_article.php?art icle_id=81228)

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Marcos was in a good position where he could have done great things for his country, but unfortunately, he was too selfish and greedy to do so, unlike president Park of S. Korea.

[fremsite]

hello Hensoldt san ~~~ pa-share ako ng konti lang ne .. :)

so .. gaano na nga ba talaga kahirap ang buhay sa pilipinas ngayon ? :D

[Hensoldt]

hello Hensoldt san ~~~ pa-share ako ng konti lang ne .. :)

so .. gaano na nga ba talaga kahirap ang buhay sa pilipinas ngayon ? :D

Hindi ako sure, kaya nga ako nagtatanong eh. :p Biro lang...hehehehehe

Depende siguro kung sino tatanungin nating tao. We'll likely get different responses if you know what I mean. ;)

[mamimo]

[quote=Hensoldt;31346 7At sa tingin ko, hindi rin imposibleng gawing halimbawa ang magagandang traits ng mga Tsinoy, basta iwaksi ang mga not so desirable attributes nila.[/quote]

Ang negosyanteng Pinoy konting asenso sa business bilis i-upgrade ang lifestyle pero ang Chinese mas hilig ilagay ang pera sa bagong venture tuwing swe2rtehin sa naunang negosyo. I dont know if their ultimate goal is to spread their wealth to their succeeding generations?:confuse d:

Back to the premise, hirap talaga buhay sa Pinas kaya nag-uunahan sa pag-alis mga kabayan natin na kahit sa Iraq gugustuhin ipagsapalaran ang buhay nila basta makapagpadala ng pera sa pamilya. Nadinig ko nga interview ng isang OCW na gusto pumuntang Iraq mas okay na mamatay sa Iraq at baka may makuha pang pera ang pamilya nya keysa magkakasama nga sila di naman alam kung san kukunin ang pagkain.:(

[eagles008]

share ko lang po ang videos na ito. hope you'd find time to watch. also to give you an idea kung "Gaano kahirap ang buhay sa Pilipinas"


part 1

pum5FAAwf98


part 2
[/URL]jIt4ZFcg2RA


part 3
(http://)Uh2R26e-tEM


part 4
y7l3EHFkpao


part 5
[URL="http://"] (http://)m48RGct9X9E


No.2 po tayo sa pinaka maraming mal nourished na bata sa buong mundo!Nakaka panlumo po!Filipinos don't deserve this!

[sitsukoime]

Basta u have a proper job nmn here or stable business for sure makakasurvive na tau. Sana lng ung mga medyo less fortunate, eh wag ng mag anak ng mag anak. Coz kids are the one who really suffers most.:( I wish philippines will have a prosperous year this 2008 and the coming more year....:)

[Dondake303]

Sa opinyon ko nangyayari ang hirap sa bansa dahil na rin sa mga ibang pinoy na walang kontrol sa pag anak lalo na ang mga taong walang mga trabaho anak pa ng anak:( nakakalungkot pero na sa ibang pinoy na ang dahilan kung bakit dumadami na ang naghihirap.