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kakkoii_daw
08-27-2007, 04:10 PM
For those of you who just denounced their faith, deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religion, and for those who just want to have their own religion. Here's a simple easy steps on how to create one.


1) Create a God. One with a catchy name is best. Should be simple and out of the ordinary, but not too far out that people can't remember it. In our example we will create "The Great God Lardicus". It has "Lard" in the name which people already associate with fast food. It has "-icus" at the end of it, which sounds Greek, so it must be old and have centuries of tradition behind it.
2) Make it in charge of something people already focus on, but don't have a target for that focus.
In this case, eating too much fast food and poor dietary practices. Poof! Millions of people are now in your target audience.
3) Make it something that people will be reminded of frequently.
In this case, whenever they think of fast food, they will think of Lardicus after reading this (at least for a while).
In fact, the next time you drive down the road I bet you will think of The Great God Lardicus at least once. And the second time, you'll think of it because you'll remember thinking of it the first time. And so on. See how easy that was!
4) Make it easy for them to "buy into" the worship of your New God.
In this case, whenever you eat fast food, you are honoring The Great God Lardicus.
Whenever you pay at the drive-in window, you are tithing to The Great God Lardicus.
5) Make it ambiguous. Let both sides of an argument claim it as their own.
In this case, is The Great God Lardicus a "Dark God" bent on destroying The Temple Of Your Physical Being, or is he a "Light God" and the patron of those who are too busy in their lives to stop and eat a well-balanced meal?
Why define it when you can let people fight it out themselves. People are funny. They'll fight over anything. Even something you just made up. Enjoy the show and try not to think too much about the Karmic issues you are creating for yourself.
6) Establish some standards by which the God should be referred to, creating an intrinsic reverence right from the start.
In this case, The Great God Lardicus must always be referred to as "The Great God" Lardicus. Once people see this a few hundred times, they'll start believing it without even realizing it.
Make sure that the Full Title and Name are Always Capitalized. This is because that everybody knows that something that has Capital Letters Is Much More Important than something that isn't.
This is called "Marketing" and all the Most Holy of The Great God Lardicus's High Priests study the Dark Arts of Marketing and practice it many times a day in their Most Holy Rites.
7) Make cool symbols. They should be things that people already know and see everywhere. And they should be easy to draw and say.
In our case, The Great God Lardicus's symbols will be the Arch, the Crown and Pigtails. (If you think you'd look silly in pigtails, just substitute an image of a Pig, which works well when you think of bacon, pork chops, and the obvious "pig" symbolism). You'll suddenly start seeing The Great God Lardicus's symbols everywhere. Temples to The Great God Lardicus will appear, as if by Divine Intervention, on every street corner in every town across the nation.
Boy, that was fun!
Okay, we've now created our first God.
Now, let's see how easy it is to turn it into a Religion!
You can't have a cool religion with just a single character, so....

8) You need an opposing force. Not necessarily an arch-enemy, but an opposite perspective so that people can pick sides and fight over things.
Remember the stuff about people up there in Number 5? If everybody gets along, nobody will ever hear about your new religion. Most people hardly ever talk about how happy and content they are with their spirituality. In fact, many feel that they have to impose their beliefs on others in order to validate themselves and their beliefs. Because if you can get other people to be convinced to believe the same thing you do, you must be right! And that validates your choices. You want to play into that if you're going to be creating your own religion.
In this case, we will create The Gentle Goddess Dietima.
Notice how we have used all the rules so far with this name and the subtle effects it engenders. Let's review:
1) It has "Diet" in the name, which is obviously the opposite of "Lard". It sounds Greek too, so it fits nicely into our freshly created pantheon of psuedo-Greek deities.
It sounds catchy. And it should. Because we have simply co-opted the name of an actual character from Greek Literature, Diotima. Many people will vaguely (but not quite) remember her name from a high school or college class. This is another great technique when you are creating a new religion: overlay your gods, legends, temples, holy days and whatever else you can think of over top of the ones used by The Other Religions. Why invent something new when you can simply co-opt it and claim it as your own? Then people can fight over who stole what from whom and the nefarious motivations for doing so. People love to fight, and it would be cruel of you to deny them this chance.
2) Who hasn't been on or thought about going on a diet? The Gentle Goddess Dietima is the patron for you!
3) Is there anyone you know that isn't painfully aware of diets and dieting? My point exactly.
4) It sounds Feminine with just the right mix of Fluffy-Bunny and Wise Woman. It is sweet enough for the flowering gentle pre-teen who wants a kinder, more understanding world but it also sounds great for attracting the people who would never worship a masculine meat-eating fatso un-environmentally-conscious goat-mater like Grease God Lardicus!
Wow! Intolerance is fun and yet still makes you feel superior and important, while at the same time elevating you to the moral high-ground above those who you don't agree with. Neat, huh?
5) Notice how we have made The Gentle Goddess Dietima attractive to the entire spectrum of human emotion! Now we can just sit back and watch Her Faithful fight over which of her aspects is "The Real One".
6) The Gentle Goddess Dietima should always referred to as "The Gentle Goddess", unless you are in need of her unspecified warrior attributes which are whatever you want them to be whenever you want to use them. Good ol' rule number 5!
7) Dietima's symbols are the cute adorable little bunny (because nobody could not love a cute adorable little bunny), a curved silver knife (crescent moon shaped, great for cutting earth-friendly veggies to eat and tilling the ground, and useful for those unspecified warrior aspects, and similar enough to the Arch to cause more fun bickering) and the egg (fertility, orb shapes are common, and it will further confuse the whole spring holiday symbolism thing and cause more exciting discussions).

So much for the review, now back to the recipie book:

9) You need to confuse everybody. This will make sure that nobody can be really certain WHAT they believe, because it is all so non-sensical to begin with. And when you don't spell it out exactly (or even if you do) you know how those funny humans will all magically just get along, right!
In this case, we'll try to be real thorough here:
The Gentle Goddess Dietima and The Great God Lardicus are Divine Brother and Sister. However, they are also Husband and Wife. And The Great God Lardicus is the child of Himself and The Gentle Goddess Dietima. As is Dietima. They love each other, but argue and even fight regularly for a variety of reasons that we won't go into here because we want people to make up their own reasons, which they can then fight over.
We don't even have to explain how any of this is possible because they are Gods and can do whatever they want. We don't want to specify who was born first or the details of their immaculate self-conceptions, because that might give one side the upper hand in any arguments. Remember Rule Number 5: Keep it ambiguous.
The Gentle Goddess Dietima and The Great God Lardicus may or may not have other children, parents, siblings or acquaintances. We can add them in later if we want or need to, and then the old-timers (historians, scholars, etc.) can fight the new converts (who are always the most passionate about things) about whether they should "really" be in the pantheon or not, since they weren't there in the beginning. We'll probably just say we found some ancient scrolls that nobody is allowed to examine that mentioned them when we want to add in any new characters. That'll be fun!

And last but certainly not least:

10) The Big Reward. You know everything you always wished you had in this life? After you die, you'll get it! We promise! Hot women. Cute Guys. Flying Cars. Washboard abs. Rivers of Chocolate that won't add an ounce or an inch to your perfectly fit, weightless body. And lots of cute, adorable fluffy bunnies to frolic with in virgin green pastures.
In our case, we guarantee that you'll get everything listed above. And then some!
But wait! There's more! All the people you love in this life will be there. But not the people you don't like. They all go to "The Other Place". Don't worry. They'll get theirs. And you'll spend eternity in Paradise. Really. We Promise.

Oh yeah, one last thing:
The always present but never written down (written down here because I can't whisper it in your ear) Eleventh Rule:

11) Get The Word Out!
What good is creating your own religion if you can't get people to worship your Gods and beg you for guidance because they don't trust themselves to navigate their own way through life? They'll be much better having an uninformed random someone else tell them what to do than looking at their own situation objectively and determining a logical path to take that is likely to help them improve their lot in life.


link to a nice printable pdf guide ->
http://www.apath.org/docs/creatingreligion.pdf

itchay
08-27-2007, 05:06 PM
i had mixed feelings reading this...

i found this "guideline" hilarious but at the same frightening....
frightening because it's darn easy to do, as well. to create a new religion, i mean.
i had a close brush with this kind of propaganda when i was in the philippines (seems a lot of "religions" been springing up there recently). but not exactly the same. because this group claim to be non-denominational, and doesn't truly serve one God alone. guess, that's for wanting to claim a wider "fan-base".
and, the founder was really something else too. while preaching the values written in the bible during his preacher moments, he can equally brag from the same mouth, as well, on his non-preacher moments--- like his newly-acquired Mac book (gift from Heaven, he said. meaning, donated for the "church". but since he's the founder, well, he can eat his cake too.), his trip to Hongkong sponsored by one of the disciples--"to spread the Word", and how he flaunts his online investment is really doing well, earning daily, and then went spoof (one of those controversial daily high-earning online forex investing scams).
i have to admit, though, he's really good. he can turn almost anybody into rubber, capitalizing on guilt. he's got the gift of gab.

sorry, kakkoi-san, i know you only mean to spread humor...
it's just that something was triggered in me prompting me to write all these, and with the hope readers can choose to be cautious.:)

kakkoii_daw
08-27-2007, 05:58 PM
i had mixed feelings reading this...

i found this "guideline" hilarious but at the same frightening....
frightening because it's darn easy to do, as well. to create a new religion, i mean.
i had a close brush with this kind of propaganda when i was in the philippines (seems a lot of "religions" been springing up there recently). but not exactly the same. because this group claim to be non-denominational, and doesn't truly serve one God alone. guess, that's for wanting to claim a wider "fan-base".
and, the founder was really something else too. while preaching the values written in the bible during his preacher moments, he can equally brag from the same mouth, as well, on his non-preacher moments--- like his newly-acquired Mac book (gift from Heaven, he said. meaning, donated for the "church". but since he's the founder, well, he can eat his cake too.), his trip to Hongkong sponsored by one of the disciples--"to spread the Word", and how he flaunts his online investment is really doing well, earning daily, and then went spoof (one of those controversial daily high-earning online forex investing scams).
i have to admit, though, he's really good. he can turn almost anybody into rubber, capitalizing on guilt. he's got the gift of gab.

sorry, kakkoi-san, i know you only mean to spread humor...
it's just that something was triggered in me prompting me to write all these, and with the hope readers can choose to be cautious.:)

sorry din itchay-san, it must have been a bad experience for you, sorry. :O
i think i know that sect you're talking about. is it the one with borutesu faibu as their soundtrack? peace tau mga kapatid. hehe joke lang... :D
as for me, i reject all invitations from religious sects which involves money. hindi sa madamot ako, pero napupunta lng kc un sa iisang tao or sa grupo lang (this is based on my observations). di rin naman kc sila transparent to audit or to have an external auditing firm to audit their finances. :D

wolfgang
08-27-2007, 10:26 PM
3) Make it something that people will be reminded of frequently.
In this case, whenever they think of fast food, they will think of Lardicus after reading this (at least for a while).

teh invisible pink unicorn, and teh flying spaghetti monster!!! :D

itchay
08-27-2007, 11:26 PM
sorry din itchay-san, it must have been a bad experience for you, sorry. :O
i think i know that sect you're talking about. is it the one with borutesu faibu as their soundtrack? peace tau mga kapatid. hehe joke lang... :D
as for me, i reject all invitations from religious sects which involves money. hindi sa madamot ako, pero napupunta lng kc un sa iisang tao or sa grupo lang (this is based on my observations). di rin naman kc sila transparent to audit or to have an external auditing firm to audit their finances. :D

nothing personal, kakkoii-san :) walang personal experience. halos lahat naman ng tao dun sa pinas, eh nilapitan ng mga ganitong klaseng grupo. isa na kami dun. pero malayo pa lang sila, amoy na namin totoong motibo nila. ang mahirap lang is kung ka-close mo eh, madadala nila, tapos nakikita mo na nagiging misguided na pagkatapos. mahirap kasi hanggang tingin ka na lang. sa ganitong paraan ko nalaman ang mga bagay-bagay na sinulat ko sa itaas.

at tama ka tungkol sa pera nila.

sa guidelines na ni-share mo, meron talaga iba niyan ginagawa ng ibang sects. at ang nakakagulat eh, may naniniwala pa rin.
pero hindi ko nilalahat. meron din sigurong mga matitino na grupo. di ko lang alam.:D

Stacie Fil
08-29-2007, 11:37 PM
I can't help to wonder why this thread was made in the first place. Is it for fun, or to promote further disentigration of human spiritual awareness and development? Is it a communist propaganda as to create more unclear religious groups and further division, quarrel, chaos in religious community? Or maybe its just that the thread starter was too excited to post something and didn't gaved much time to thinks as what could be its effect to the public.

First, the content is neither religious nor inspiring. Well, it speak about religion (I think), but its more like a business suggestion and proposal.

Actually I felt sick and offended with the idea. As if matters as such are only like joke and can be taken lightly.

For me, God is as real as the life I acquire. As real as the air we breath, as the sun that constanly bring life to the world. As clear as the life in a mothers womb and the joy and comfort from a parents love and care.

Its not like the letters in a scrabble that you can simply mix, play around and create a new word of your own. Religion is to keep man closer bact to heaven.I had seen, and history proves that communist view doesn't really create true equality in peoples life. It doesn't promote lasting progress, peace and harmony. You really beleive you can make God? God as a product of human mind alone?

Religion comes from true inpiration from heaven. Not something you can simply stablish to bring profit, wealth and create your dynasty. Yes, maybe someone had done things like this from the past. But those are corruption of peoples life. Not even opiate for the people. I don't think it is something you can be proud of and get away from your remorse.

Ang isang masakit pa eh. Obvious na napulot lang itong idea na ito, saka ilalahad sa nakararami.

itchay
08-30-2007, 12:30 AM
Or maybe its just that the thread starter was too excited to post something and didn't gaved much time to thinks as what could be its effect to the public.


kakkoii-san could very well be thinking this when he/she made this thread. indeed, the article is very humorous, and can possibly elicit a few more laughs from a few readers more, if shared. therefore, the thread.

we do tend to get too excited at times we overlook the consequences of our actions. although i think kakkoii-san's intentions are innocent, i also do find this article alarming, and not exactly what you call an article about religion. since i browse this section almost every time i can visit TF, i would rather that i only find articles in this section that can truly give me spiritual inspiration. if this can be moved to another section, i would like to request it. i hope kakkoii-san won't mind.

i did enjoy reading the stuff, and i might be re-reading it in the future wherever this will end up. just to remind me how gullible human beings can sometimes be. :)

infinite_trial
08-30-2007, 12:42 AM
seems like someone was too excited to post something and didn't gaved(sic) much time to thinks(sic) where the article came from. you don't spell paganism as c-o-m-m-u-n-i-s-m.

kakkoii_daw
08-30-2007, 10:11 AM
my humblest apology if i have offended some with my post.

it makes me sick too whenever i see closed minded people claiming their religion is the one true religion that we all must have to believe.

i dont want to talk about c0mmun1sm here. it is totally out of topic.

it seems to me that some people still dont know the word freedom. freedom of belief and disbelief. if i have touch something sensitive about your belief with my post, then theres something with my post thats worth to think about.

this isnt something thats too excited to post to any forum, this is happening in our society. if some people cannot tolerate freedom, then show some respect, even a little. perhaps it would make our discussions worthwhile.

if you dont want to see threads like this, please rename the title of this forum (Religion & Inspiration) and be specific. Thanks!

p.s. i got this stuff from a pagan site. so for anyone of you who dont recognize paganism as a religion. go out and research. thanks!

hanikami
08-30-2007, 12:19 PM
like itchay, I also browse this part of TF regularly and was quite surprised when I came across kakkoii_daw's post and the responses it generated.

I just find it interesting kakkoii_daw points out that people still don't know the word freedom. as it is defined, with "freedom," people have "the power to act or speak or think (or even believe) without externally imposed restraints."

you mention that there are people "claiming their religion is the one true religion that we all must have to believe" and you say that "makes you sick," but isn't what they're doing just their way of exercising their freedom to speak out the ideas they believe in?

as I've said in a separate thread, I agree that a Forum is a venue for free discussion. so not matter how shocked or offended we are about a post, well, we have to accept everyone has their own choices and decisions in life, and they have the freedom to express these as well. and if we don't agree with it, we also have the choice and freedom to respond or ignore it.

however, I think we also have to exercise some form of caution especially on discussions concerning topics such as religion, ideology or even politics. as Filipinos, we already know topics like these are sensitive and controversial for many of our fellow Filipinos, and if we ought to show respect, then we should be prudent about our purpose and motives when we post something related to these topics. we may have to strongly consider the outcome, if the posts truly make the discussions worthwhile. (and it would lessen the chances of having the mods constantly looking over one's shoulders;))

in fairness to kakkoii_daw, there was a sort of warning at the top of the post ("For those of you who just denounced their faith, deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religion, and for those who just want to have their own religion") which I found a little too tongue and cheek, but it was unfortunate the meaning and humor may have been lost on some people.

~hanikami

infinite_trial
08-30-2007, 12:43 PM
like itchay, I also browse this part of TF regularly and was quite surprised when I came across kakkoii_daw's post and the responses it generated.

nice post ms. hanakimi. i think it's shocking for some people because the points mentioned in the thread are presented in a different manner. actually, most of it are true, for every religion (may it be self-made or not). he mentioned later on that the article came from a pagan site, which was overlooked by some (since they didn't bother to read it before reacting) including his dislaimer at the top of his post.

i also think it is shocking because we grew up to believe that religion should be exempted from ridicule and scrutiny. what difference would it make if the article was taken from a muslim site? atheist site? majority of the members here are christians. i just can't understand why they can tolerate other sects but cannot do the same for other religions.

kakkoii_daw
08-30-2007, 12:55 PM
like itchay, I also browse this part of TF regularly and was quite surprised when I came across kakkoii_daw's post and the responses it generated.

I just find it interesting kakkoii_daw points out that people still don't know the word freedom. as it is defined, with "freedom," people have "the power to act or speak or think (or even believe) without externally imposed restraints."

you mention that there are people "claiming their religion is the one true religion that we all must have to believe" and you say that "makes you sick," but isn't what they're doing just their way of exercising their freedom to speak out the ideas they believe in?

~hanikami

Sorry again! i should't have used harsh words to counterattack, coz that would mean curtailment of freedom on the other part. nakakalungkot lang kc para sabihin na this thread shouldnt be made in the first place. to think that you should promote and encourage others to participate and contribute. peace to all of you!

well then, any comments/criticism, be it constructive or descructive. will be ok! :D cheers!

itchay
08-30-2007, 01:21 PM
Sorry again! i should't have used harsh words to counterattack, coz that would mean curtailment of freedom on the other part. nakakalungkot lang kc para sabihin na this thread shouldnt be made in the first place. to think that you should promote and encourage others to participate and contribute. peace to all of you!

well then, any comments/criticism, be it constructive or descructive. will be ok! :D cheers!

...pahingi nga ng rum mo...so i can see things the way you do...:D

ok, i think i had this one coming. di na lang sana ako nag post! ito kasing mga daliri ko minsan oo!

i knew the article is only meant to be read with half your brain active...para hindi mashado ma-shock yung mga close-minded na tao na katulad ko...:p eh, na-timing, serious mowd ako nang mabasa ko thread ni kakkoii_daw...gulat me talaga ha!:p

@infi-chan, as internet-savvy as you are, medyo gulat me also na ginawa mo reason na porke't may website ang pinanggalingan ng article, justified na validity nito...ge nga, convince me some more...:D and don't use "kase .org ang huli"...:p i will open my closed mind...

di ko rin ma blame stacie...i have the tendency also to be zealous with my faith at times...

at ayokong makipag-debate about religion. don't wanna be pulled into religion battles. dami nang gumawa niyan. mga scholars and geniuses before us. i'm neither, so i won't attempt to justify my faith. sa dami ng debate, hanggang ngayon, di pa rin solb. siguro, meron talaga mga bagay-bagay na hindi meant to be solb.:)

kakkoii_daw
08-30-2007, 01:51 PM
haha. cge toma-dachi tayo minsan, ilang tagay ba gusto mo? masarap pag-usapan ang ganitong mga bagay bagay when youre under the influence of rum :D

infinite_trial
08-30-2007, 01:54 PM
@infi-chan, as internet-savvy as you are, medyo gulat me also na ginawa mo reason na porke't may website ang pinanggalingan ng article, justified na validity nito...ge nga, convince me some more...:D and don't use "kase .org ang huli"...:p i will open my closed mind...
i'm not defending the validity of the article. i was pointing out that it came from a pagan site, because someone reacted as though it came from a communist's point of view. are you excited to post as well?

itchay
08-30-2007, 05:46 PM
are you excited to post as well?

...di naman mashado...;) ...dito kasi ako nakatutok eh...

he mentioned later on that the article came from a pagan site, which was overlooked by some (since they didn't bother to read it before reacting) including his dislaimer at the top of his post.


....plural kase....i took it literally.....nag overreact nga siguro ako..:D ...kase i was guilty, i didn't take a look at the site before i started typing away. didn't know it was paganish.

i'm not defending the validity of the article. i was pointing out that it came from a pagan site, because someone reacted as though it came from a communist's point of view. are you excited to post as well?

it may have come from a pagan site, but the seed could very well be planted by a communist, or some other group.........it can never be proven though......but conspiracy theory abounds.....:)

what difference would it make if the article was taken from a muslim site? atheist site?

.....none.....my reaction would still be the same. i didn't react the way i did, because i thought it was a paganish idea.

i just can't understand why they can tolerate other sects but cannot do the same for other religions.

....i sometimes ask myself that....why am i biased at times....:O

infinite_trial
08-30-2007, 05:58 PM
it may have come from a pagan site, but the seed could very well be planted by a communist, or some other group.........it can never be proven though......but conspiracy theory abounds.....:)

communism is very far from paganism. that's why the threadstarter said to research if you wanna know more. don't worry ms. itchay, i was referring to another person.


.....none.....my reaction would still be the same. i didn't react the way i did, because i thought it was a paganish idea.

exactly my point. the reaction will not change because it opposes the religion of the majority.

kakkoii_daw
10-18-2007, 10:26 AM
disclaimer so i wont be castigated (this is not for the weak of heart. this is about a new religion/sect created by a man they called Jesus of Siberia (not to be confused with Jesus of Suburbia) if you've already read/heard about this news, then disregard. peace out) :D

Novel Faiths Find Followers Among Russia's Disillusioned

ABODE OF DAWN, Russia -- Six miles from the nearest road, in the vast Siberian wilderness, a bearded man in flowing white linen robes sat at his kitchen table and talked about his crucifixion at the hands of Pontius Pilate 2,000 years ago.

In a voice barely louder than the rain falling on the mountaintop home his followers have built for him, Sergei Torop said it was painful to remember the end of his last life, in which he says he walked the Earth as Jesus Christ.

Torop, 46, is a former Siberian traffic cop who is now spiritual leader of at least 5,000 devoted followers. They have abandoned lives as artists, engineers and professionals in other fields to move to this remote corner of Siberia, 2,000 miles from Moscow. In empty woodlands, they are building from scratch an entire new town, where they pass their lives near the man they call Vissarion, "he who gives new life."...

more from washingtonpost.com (http://www.washingtonpost.c om/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/16/AR2007071601938.html ?nav=rss_world)

itchay
10-18-2007, 11:00 AM
^ buti na lang im mentally prepared this time :D

i guess more of this "novel faiths" will be springing up. this is definitely not the last one.
it's evident now there are lots of disillusioned followers of traditional faiths.
it's really up to the individual how he satisfies his spiritual thirst.
but for me, basically, all faiths are but one and the same.
same goal, only different roads.

so i'll just continue walking my old road, and see you guys at the goal. :)

docomo
10-18-2007, 12:58 PM
Most religions are pretty anti-atrocity, as far as I know. Trying to find loopholes in your religion to justify sin is both cynical and deplorable, and frankly I do not recommend the policy of rules-lawyering with your deity.

If the purpose of creating your own religion will come with the intention to better oneself.. why not :)