If Jesus is the only true Son of God, what are we?

[shinshinobi]

can somebody answer this?

dont get me wrong, I'm a christian.

[lakandula]

Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God. -Matt 5:9

For all who are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God. -Romans 8:14

For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. -Galatians 3:26

[summergirl]

GOD MADE US..

[Ironside]

can somebody answer this?

dont get me wrong, I'm a christian.



The Lord Jesus is the only unique Son of God. The Lord Jesus has always been the eternal Son of God. While Christians are ADOPTED sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. The Lord Jesus was never adopted. He is the eternal Son of God.

[Ironside]

The Lord Jesus:


Joh 3:16 "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.


Christians:


Eph 1:5 having predestined us to [U]adoption as sons by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will,

[Ironside]

DOUBLE

[may_abe]

can somebody answer this?

dont get me wrong, I'm a christian.

Then..we are the follower of Him. Live by his words and His name. It's a matter of FAITH.

[Stacie Fil]

can somebody answer this?

If Jesus is the only true Son of God, what are we?

dont get me wrong, I'm a christian.


E di false. :D



:)

[adechan]

E di false. :D

:)
hmmmm ~~~ parang pang commercial

(gomenansai)

my answer:

We are God's children, created unto God's image and likeness, but we lost the title because of Adam and Eve's fall.

To bring back the title is through Jesus Christ.

[Stacie Fil]

Anong commercial ba naisip mo?


Oo nga, pero sabi mo eh na "lost title" ba ga.
So, to bring back ika mo is to connect to Jesus. What are we nga daw?

Halimbawa like the wild olive shoots eh nag connect ka na nga. Ano na after that? Walang sasagot nang kabit, sabit o dikit, korning commercial yon.:D :bite: :lol:

If Jesus is the only true son of God, what are we???:O :scratch:



:)

[anduling]

If Jesus is the only son of God, what are we?

e di mga ampon........ :dogpile:
:bonk::dogpile:

:lol:

[sweetscrazy]

Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God. -Matt 5:9

For all who are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God. -Romans 8:14

For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. -Galatians 3:26

If we are ALL the sons of God then how can Jesus be the ONLY son of God? So is the Bible contradicting itself? :D

[Ironside]

we are all by nature children of wrath:


Eph 2:3 among whom also we all once conducted ourselves in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the others.


God sent His only begotten Son to die for our sins and resurrect again. When any of the Sons of Adam [who are by nature children of wrath] puts their trust in the Lord Jesus Christ. He becomes born again and have become ADOPTED sons of God.


The Lord Jesus was never adopted. Sinners who have trusted in Christ alone for salvation[Christians] are.

[la_tina512]

can somebody answer this?

dont get me wrong, I'm a christian.

Shin, tanong ko lang... What is your definition of a christian? I hope my question is not offending to you, papano mo nasabi na you're a christian?

[shinshinobi]

Shin, tanong ko lang... What is your definition of a christian? I hope my question is not offending to you, papano mo nasabi na you're a christian?


hmm..ok...

i was raised catholic....i believe there was a Jesus Christ, i agree with his teachings because it's all good....morality wise..

but sometimes i do question some of the teachings of the catholic church because some of it were actually not written on the bible....

"trinity" for example.....is not written on the bible...

Jesus being a God or man....

and other inconsistencies...

[la_tina512]

hmm..ok...

i was raised catholic....i believe there was a Jesus Christ, i agree with his teachings because it's all good....morality wise..

but sometimes i do question some of the teachings of the catholic church because some of it were actually not written on the bible....

"trinity" for example.....is not written on the bible...

Jesus being a God or man....

and other inconsistencies...

Your statements didn't answer my question of your definition of a christian. A very simple a christian is........ It's okay.. Curious lang kasi ako. Marami kasing nagpo-profess na christian sila but can't define what a christian is.. :)

[sweetscrazy]

He becomes born again and have become ADOPTED sons of God.

so where is it written in the Bible that we are adopted sons of God? If we were not originally God's son, then who were we originally sons of? the Earth? our mothers? sons of Eve? sons of an evolved monkey?

[dianne]

aahhh~~~ ganon pala yun... kailangan pa pala ng definition para mapa tunayan na christian ka ~~~~ nakalagay ba yun sa bible ~~~ sabihin kung ano ang definition ng isang pagiging kristiyano ~~~ eto tanong ko ano ang definition ng pagiging kristyano para sayo balik ko sayo ang tanong ~~~ baka maging biskotso ka lang dahil binalik ko sayo ang tanong.... hindi mo dapat itanong dahil alam mong ma di~discourage mo lang ang taong tinatanong mo... dahil alam mong di pa malallim ang kaalaman nila sa pagiging kristyano.. ... paano mo maakit ang mga taong maging isang kristyano kung tanong mo pa lang nakaka offend na ... kung talagang kristyano ka di ka magtatanong ng ganon~~~ kase alam mo sa sarili mo di ka masasagot ng tinatanungan mo dahil hindi pa malawak ang kaalaman nila bilang isang kristyano dahil wala nga silang alam ... imbes na lumapit sayo ....lalayo iiwasan ka ibig sabihin parang ang yabang mo naman ~~~~ parang exclusive for christian lang ang sagot sa tanong mo~~~;) again di lang ikaw ang anak ng DIYOS~~~

[shinshinobi]

Your statements didn't answer my question of your definition of a christian. A very simple a christian is........ It's okay.. Curious lang kasi ako. Marami kasing nagpo-profess na christian sila but can't define what a christian is.. :)

ayy pasensya na po nakalimutan kong sagutin hehe:D


ang definition ko po ng Christian is:

A person who sincerely believe in the teachings of Jesus Christ.


yan po:D

[adechan]

and the Story continue

OT BREAK muna

Above all, love each other deeply, because love covers over a multitiude of sins.
1 Peter 4:8

Ang over all these virtues put on love, which binds them all together in perfect unity.
Colossians 3:14

[dianne]

ayy pasensya na po nakalimutan kong sagutin hehe:D


ang definition ko po ng Christian is:

A person who sincerely believe in the teachings of Jesus Christ.


yan po:D


@ shin... yan ang sinasabi ko ... di naman dapat mag tanong ang tunay kristyano .... dahil alam nya sa sarili nya na di sya masasagot sa mga kasagutan nya .... hindi pa malawak ang kaisipan ng hindi tunay na kristyano kung ano talaga ang definition ng pagiging kristyano ~~~ baka ni shiteru janai ka~~~ :rolleyes:

[shinshinobi]

@ shin... yan ang sinasabi ko ... di naman dapat mag tanong ang tunay kristyano .... dahil alam nya sa sarili nya na di sya masasagot sa mga kasagutan nya .... hindi pa malawak ang isipan ng hindi tunay na kristyano kung ano talaga ang definition ng pagiging kristyano ~~~ baka ni shiteru janai ka~~~ :rolleyes:

ang ibig po bang sabihin nito ay hindi ko dapat i-claim na kristyano ako?

or

hindi ako dapat tanungin sa aking pagiging kristyano....


:confused:

[dianne]

ang ibig po bang sabihin nito ay hindi ko dapat i-claim na kristyano ako?

or

hindi ako dapat tanungin sa aking pagiging kristyano....


:confused:

shin... diba sabe ni La_tina your statement did'nt answer my question of your definition of a christian ????:confused: so sinagot ko lang ~~~;) di naman ikaw nag tanong eh sya kung ano ang definition ng pagiging kristyano sayo ~~~ sa palagay mo ba masasagot mo ~~~:confused: kung mag tanong kase parang sya lang gustong makasama sa millenium ... sa Kingdom of God ...:) give them a chance ... kahit ikaw sa sarili mo alam mo kung ano ang ibig sabihin ng pagiging isang Kristyano... kaya wag mona itanong na kung ano ang definition ..

[shinshinobi]

shin... diba sabe ni La_tina your statement did'nt answer my question of your definition of a christian ????:confused: so sinagot ko lang ~~~;)


ah ok thanks po:D

[itchay]

I am definitely not a son of God...I am a daughter of God :p

[dianne]

eto ang sagot ko sa katanungan mo SHIN .... nung nanalig tayo sa panginoon DIYOS ... anak na tayo ng DIYOS dahil natanggap na natin ang banal na espiritu ... napatawad na tayo ng Diyos sa lahat ng kasalanan naten.... pinatawad na tayo ng Diyos dahil sa pananalig naten na si Jesus christ ay nag sakripisyo para saaten.. the only begotten son ...pero ng natanggap naten ang banal na espiritu ng Diyos... anak na tayo ng Diyos ....anak na tayo ng panginoon noong natanggap naten ang banal na espiritu ....:)

[la_tina512]

aahhh~~~ ganon pala yun... kailangan pa pala ng definition para mapa tunayan na christian ka ~~~~ nakalagay ba yun sa bible ~~~ sabihin kung ano ang definition ng isang pagiging kristiyano ~~~ eto tanong ko ano ang definition ng pagiging kristyano para sayo balik ko sayo ang tanong ~~~ baka maging biskotso ka lang dahil binalik ko sayo ang tanong.... hindi mo dapat itanong dahil alam mong ma di~discourage mo lang ang taong tinatanong mo... dahil alam mong di pa malallim ang kaalaman nila sa pagiging kristyano.. ... paano mo maakit ang mga taong maging isang kristyano kung tanong mo pa lang nakaka offend na ... kung talagang kristyano ka di ka magtatanong ng ganon~~~ kase alam mo sa sarili mo di ka masasagot ng tinatanungan mo dahil hindi pa malawak ang kaalaman nila bilang isang kristyano dahil wala nga silang alam ... imbes na lumapit sayo ....lalayo iiwasan ka ibig sabihin parang ang yabang mo naman ~~~~ parang exclusive for christian lang ang sagot sa tanong mo~~~;) again di lang ikaw ang anak ng DIYOS~~~

Nagtatanong lang po... Bakit parang ikaw ang gigil na gigil sa tanong ko? Wala akong intention to create any negativity here, much more mang-away ng tao. Nagtanong lang ako... Sus naman... Ang dami mo na agad sinabi. Kung may sama ka ng loob sa tanong ko message me in private at doon mo ako tirahin ms. Dianne.

What is a Christian? One who follows Christ.. Yan lang po..

Please lang, don't make it personal at pati pagiging Kristyano ko titirahin mo. Ni hindi nga kumibo si Shin sa tanong ko.

Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh....

Nayayabangan ka sa akin? Hindi pa ako nagyabang dahil wala ako sa position na magyabang dahil wala akong ipagyayabang. Without Christ I am nothing. Hindi ako nag-iisip na walang isasagot ang tao pag nagtanong ako. Pati ba naman ako, ms. Dianne?

God bless your soul..:)

[shinshinobi]

ok tama na po iyan dianne san and la_tina san....


huwag na po sana natin pahabain.....


:grouphug:


minsan talaga nakaka carry away kapag religion na ang topic....kaya peace na po tayo:D

[dianne]

Your statements didn't answer my question of your definition of a christian. A very simple a christian is........ It's okay.. Curious lang kasi ako. Marami kasing nagpo-profess na christian sila but can't define what a christian is.. :)


ms. Latina ... nagulat lang ako dahil dito sa tanong mo parang nilahat mo ...:)

[adechan]

e di ok na?

sana naman ~~~ peace na ulit
:kiss: :grouphug:

:love::love::love:

[alexb]

medyo lang kasi may discrepancy sa question, "only true son of God", wala pong ginamit na "true son of God" sa bible at ang "only" ay ginamit sa "only begotten son" na naipaliwanag na ni Ironside. "only begotten" sa original greek ay monogenes, which means naiiba o "single of it's kind".

so malinaw na po na tayong lahat ay anak ng Dios...nasa sa atin na yun kung gusto nating pamangkin lang :D

[may_abe]

medyo lang kasi may discrepancy sa question, "only true son of God", wala pong ginamit na "true son of God" sa bible at ang "only" ay ginamit sa "only begotten son" na naipaliwanag na ni Ironside. "only begotten" sa original greek ay monogenes, which means naiiba o "single of it's kind".

so malinaw na po na tayong lahat ay anak ng Dios...nasa sa atin na yun kung gusto nating pamangkin lang :D


:) Siguro ninong? at inaanak tayo.Tuwing pasko lang naman busy ang mga kristyano...mano po ninang,mano po ninong..sagot naman nila ano gusto mo pera o bayong?

[joeblack]

@ May_Abe san, jan ka na naman!!!! Bakit kasama ang pera at bayong dito?

Tama si Alexb at Ironside: John 3:16: For God so Love the World for He Sent His Only Begotten Son and If whosoever Believeth in Him Shall not perish but has Eternal Life................

In my opinion, we are the "Visible Sons of God". God is invisible , God is word and God is Love. In order for God to be visible; he created Adan and Eve centering in True Love. If Adan and Eve fulfilled the Providence of God, they will serve as our True Parents. But Adan and Eve failed to follow the providence of God; the "Fall of Man Follows" generation by generation and ends up to our Generation.

Since christians follows the teachings of Jesus which came from the teachings of ancient forefathers which they received thru words of God then; we are the visible sons of God....


:) Siguro ninong? at inaanak tayo.Tuwing pasko lang naman busy ang mga kristyano...mano po ninang,mano po ninong..sagot naman nila ano gusto mo pera o bayong?

[adechan]

@ May_Abe san, jan ka na naman!!!! Bakit kasama ang pera at bayong dito?

Tama si Alex at Ironside: John 3:16: For God so Love the World for He Sent His Only Begotten Son and If whosoever Believeth in Him Shall not perish but has Eternal Life................

nice Mr. Joeblack

@may_abe sana nga ganyan lang kagaang

pero may bago naman akong naisip na sagot sa tanong ni shin

If Jesus is the only true Son of God, what are we?

WE ARE SINNERS. AND WE ARE CURSED

naku ang tindi nito

pero ang John 3:16 talaga ang susi

[joeblack]

Nandyan ka pala partner? Thanks... Anyway for me, the most important is where are we in the heart of God? Don't ask who are we ? But asks; what can we do for God and to ourselves too?


nice Mr. Joeblack

@may_abe sana nga ganyan lang kagaang

pero may bago naman akong naisip na sagot sa tanong ni shin



WE ARE SINNERS. AND WE ARE CURSED

naku ang tindi nito

pero ang John 3:16 talaga ang susi

[dianne]

medyo lang kasi may discrepancy sa question, "only true son of God", wala pong ginamit na "true son of God" sa bible at ang "only" ay ginamit sa "only begotten son" na naipaliwanag na ni Ironside. "only begotten" sa original greek ay monogenes, which means naiiba o "single of it's kind".

so malinaw na po na tayong lahat ay anak ng Dios...nasa sa atin na yun kung gusto nating pamangkin lang :D


ha~ha~hahaaa~~~diva tito alex~~~~:p

[shinshinobi]

share ko lang po itong site na ito na nahanap ko..

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/contradictions.html

nakasulat po dito ang mga ilang contradictions sa bible, ano po masasabi niyo dito?

don't get me wrong, i believe and follow the teachings of Jesus Christ.

[adechan]

share ko lang po itong site na ito na nahanap ko..

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/contradictions.html

nakasulat po dito ang mga ilang contradictions sa bible, ano po masasabi niyo dito?

don't get me wrong, i believe and follow the teachings of Jesus Christ.

I think there's a big problem with the author's BIBLE TRANSLATION, or the way the author understand the scripture written in whole, I wanted to know the tranlation the author used. I clicked on the verses and they are errors on my browser.

I checked out the early verses in Genesis, and that is totally different the way i understand it here in my Bible. KJV

I can give correct explanation on these, but it will take me too much time here in front of the monitor. If you want a pace by pace explanation, i could, but i consider that before i can do that, many will already arise comments, better and worst.

[alexb]

Marami ng lumabas na mga ganyan...kulang lang sa pag-aaral ang mga author nun.

Paalala lang, kung di rin natin pinaniniwalaan ang ating mga pino-post ay mag-ingat tayo at baka tayo pa ang maging dahilan para masira o matisod ang iba sa paniniwala nila sa Bible at Dios.

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HE said to His disciples, It is inevitable that stumbling blocks come, but woe to him through whom they come! It would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck and he were thrown into the sea, than that he would cause one of these little ones to stumble. -Luke 17:1,2

[shinshinobi]

Marami ng lumabas na mga ganyan...kulang lang sa pag-aaral ang mga author nun.

Paalala lang, kung di rin natin pinaniniwalaan ang ating mga pino-post ay mag-ingat tayo at baka tayo pa ang maging dahilan para masira o matisod ang iba sa paniniwala nila sa Bible at Dios.

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HE said to His disciples, It is inevitable that stumbling blocks come, but woe to him through whom they come! It would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck and he were thrown into the sea, than that he would cause one of these little ones to stumble. -Luke 17:1,2

i agree, we should no longer question the bible as long as we believe in Jesus Christ.

Amen and peace to us all

[sweetscrazy]

i think most of the inconsistencies are ok if they are very minor like:

MT 17:1-2 The Transfiguration occurs six days after Jesus foretells his suffering.
LK 9:28-29 It takes place about eight days afterwards.

or even if they are philosophical vs. practical:

MT 26:52 Dispose of swords. All who take the sword will perish by it. (means renounce violence)
LK 22:36-38 Buy swords (be prepared to defend yourself from animals, thieves, etc)

But some contradictions are more serious, because it deals with personal issues:

LK 14:26 No one can be a disciple of Jesus unless he hates his parents, wife, children, brothers and sisters.
1JN 3:15 Whoever hates his brother is a murderer.
1JN 4:20 If anyone claims to love God but hates his brother, he is a liar.

.. or matters of Faith:

LK 23:43 Jesus promises one of those crucified with him that they will be together, that very day, in Paradise.
JN 20:17, AC 1:3 Jesus was not raised until the third day and did not ascend until at least forty days later.

of course, the biggest contradiction is the one which is the basis for all of Christianity:

JN 10:30 Jesus says that he and the Father are one.
MT 27:46 Jesus asks God, the Father, why he has been forsaken.

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on a side note, what does Matthew 11: 14 mean about John the Baptist and Elijah? One of the inconsistencies is that Jesus said John the Baptist was Elijah (if you are willing to accept it). But John the Baptist says he wasn't Elijah.

[alexb]

i think most of the inconsistencies are ok if they are very minor like:

MT 17:1-2 The Transfiguration occurs six days after Jesus foretells his suffering.
LK 9:28-29 It takes place about eight days afterwards.

or even if they are philosophical vs. practical:

MT 26:52 Dispose of swords. All who take the sword will perish by it. (means renounce violence)
LK 22:36-38 Buy swords (be prepared to defend yourself from animals, thieves, etc)

But some contradictions are more serious, because it deals with personal issues:

LK 14:26 No one can be a disciple of Jesus unless he hates his parents, wife, children, brothers and sisters.
1JN 3:15 Whoever hates his brother is a murderer.
1JN 4:20 If anyone claims to love God but hates his brother, he is a liar.

.. or matters of Faith:

LK 23:43 Jesus promises one of those crucified with him that they will be together, that very day, in Paradise.
JN 20:17, AC 1:3 Jesus was not raised until the third day and did not ascend until at least forty days later.

of course, the biggest contradiction is the one which is the basis for all of Christianity:

JN 10:30 Jesus says that he and the Father are one.
MT 27:46 Jesus asks God, the Father, why he has been forsaken.

----
on a side note, what does Matthew 11: 14 mean about John the Baptist and Elijah? One of the inconsistencies is that Jesus said John the Baptist was Elijah (if you are willing to accept it). But John the Baptist says he wasn't Elijah.

Did you try to search the answers for yourself?

Is mysticism and occult Christian? Yes or No?

You once said that you left Christianity since it can't satisfy you in occult and mysticism? So, who is inadequate, Christianity or man?

[la_tina512]

As far as I am concerned wala pa akong nakitang inconsistency or contradiction sa pag-aaral ko ng Bible. Hindi puwede kasi na i-contradict ng Diyos ang mga sinulat Niya for it will make Him a liar. God is a God of order. Kung makikitaan ng contradiction ang mga sinulat Niya, wala ng maniniwala pa sa Diyos at magkakaron ng chaos. Wala ng babalanse pa sa mga tao. :)

[sweetscrazy]

Did you try to search the answers for yourself?

Is mysticism and occult Christian? Yes or No?

You once said that you left Christianity since it can't satisfy you in occult and mysticism? So, who is inadequate, Christianity or man?

my best friend is a Christian exorcist, my 2nd best friend became a priest, and my other close friend became a campus minister. They couldn't answer in detail about Trinity, Heaven, Hell, Purgatory, etc. I've also confronted a priest-like person from a Christian Order (i don't want to give details) and he ended up almost crying when i debated with him about the 'other Gospels' and the contradictories in the Bible. None of them could answer effectively. I've also tried born-again, ADD (don't get into that ADD-INC mess pleeeez it's so stupid :bonk: ), Adventists and they all couldn't answer the tough questions. They all say "We'll pray for you" or "Leave it to Faith". To me it was similar to "Bahala na si Batman" o "Be good or else Santa Claus won't give you gifts"

I go to a Hindu Yoga group (and no, it wasn't SriSri Ravi Shankar's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sri_Sri_Ravi_Shankar ) :halo: ) and asked them all the same questions and in one week, EVERYTHING was answered. I reviewed these answers with Buddhism and Buddhism verified these answers. I reviewed it with most Eastern religions (Vedanta, Sikhism, Bahai, Saivism, Zen, name it I've read about it) and they verified it as well. I reviewed these with the occult and they veified them as well

So now, when someone asks me about God or why there are so many religions, or why there is suffering, I can answer them very well and give real effective advice, and not simply say "Leave it to Faith". It also has made me healthier since I'm vegetarian and I've been taught the benefits and logic behind fasting, avoiding alcohol, coffee, waking up early, etc. My understanding and appreciation of foreigners and other cultures also was raised and I respect Islam and Hindus more (I personally like Sikhism among the major religions) :D

[adechan]

So now, when someone asks me about God or why there are so many religions, or why there is suffering, I can answer them very well and give real effective advice, and not simply say "Leave it to Faith"


Peace be with you.

Truth prevails.

[alexb]

my best friend is a Christian exorcist, my 2nd best friend became a priest, and my other close friend became a campus minister. They couldn't answer in detail about Trinity, Heaven, Hell, Purgatory, etc. I've also confronted a priest-like person from a Christian Order (i don't want to give details) and he ended up almost crying when i debated with him about the 'other Gospels' and the contradictories in the Bible. None of them could answer effectively. I've also tried born-again, ADD (don't get into that ADD-INC mess pleeeez it's so stupid :bonk: ), Adventists and they all couldn't answer the tough questions. They all say "We'll pray for you" or "Leave it to Faith". To me it was similar to "Bahala na si Batman" o "Be good or else Santa Claus won't give you gifts"

I go to a Hindu Yoga group (and no, it wasn't SriSri Ravi Shankar's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sri_Sri_Ravi_Shankar ) :halo: ) and asked them all the same questions and in one week, EVERYTHING was answered. I reviewed these answers with Buddhism and Buddhism verified these answers. I reviewed it with most Eastern religions (Vedanta, Sikhism, Bahai, Saivism, Zen, name it I've read about it) and they verified it as well. I reviewed these with the occult and they veified them as well

So now, when someone asks me about God or why there are so many religions, or why there is suffering, I can answer them very well and give real effective advice, and not simply say "Leave it to Faith". It also has made me healthier since I'm vegetarian and I've been taught the benefits and logic behind fasting, avoiding alcohol, coffee, waking up early, etc. My understanding and appreciation of foreigners and other cultures also was raised and I respect Islam and Hindus more (I personally like Sikhism among the major religions) :D

eh tao pala ang tinanong mo eh...no wonder di nila masagot. ang ibig kong sabihin, pinag-aralan mo ba ang bible sa mga tanong mo? tinanong mo ba ang Dios?

Is occult & mysticism Christian?

[sweetscrazy]

eh tao pala ang tinanong mo eh...no wonder di nila masagot.

so what am i gonna do? talk to a book? sus...

if you ask me whether I asked God, yes I did (I spent time in the occult since my friend was a Christian exorcist). I told God that Christianity is a dead end and I want to try other religions but I was afraid of going to hell and was unsure (because of fear, I was procrastinating), so I needed a sign (like most Christians do). The next day, I went to Baclaran Church to start a novena, but the moment I arrived, the Gospel reading was being done. It (and the homily afterwards) emphasized on Matthew 3:15. 'John' is my other name. I took that reading as a 'green light' to switch. The next day, I met a Hindu yogi who coincidentally just arrived in the country, who then initiated me into Eastern Spirituality. The sheer coincidence in timing (to the nearest second) and sequence of all the events then was statistically improbable :halo:

[alexb]

so what am i gonna do? talk to a book? sus...

if you ask me whether I asked God, yes I did (I spent time in the occult since my friend was a Christian exorcist). I told God that Christianity is a dead end and I want to try other religions but I was afraid of going to hell and was unsure (because of fear, I was procrastinating), so I needed a sign (like most Christians do). The next day, I went to Baclaran Church to start a novena, but the moment I arrived, the Gospel reading was being done. It (and the homily afterwards) emphasized on Matthew 3:15. 'John' is my other name. I took that reading as a 'green light' to switch. The next day, I met a Hindu yogi who coincidentally just arrived in the country, who then initiated me into Eastern Spirituality. The sheer coincidence in timing (to the nearest second) and sequence of all the events then was statistically improbable :halo:


hahaha, nagiging pilosopo ka na ha. "talk to a book" di mga bobo sa bible mga kausap mo dito. you very well know what I mean.

tanong- would God contradict Himself? Sinabi Niya na paniwalaan si Cristo tapos may taong magtatanong sa Kanya at sasabihin Niya "try buddha"... ridiculous?

[Stacie Fil]

so what am i gonna do? talk to a book? sus...

if you ask me whether I asked God, yes I did (I spent time in the occult since my friend was a Christian exorcist). I told God that Christianity is a dead end and I want to try other religions but I was afraid of going to hell and was unsure (because of fear, I was procrastinating), so I needed a sign (like most Christians do). The next day, I went to Baclaran Church to start a novena, but the moment I arrived, the Gospel reading was being done. It (and the homily afterwards) emphasized on Matthew 3:15. 'John' is my other name. I took that reading as a 'green light' to switch. The next day, I met a Hindu yogi who coincidentally just arrived in the country, who then initiated me into Eastern Spirituality. The sheer coincidence in timing (to the nearest second) and sequence of all the events then was statistically improbable :halo:

I'm glad you found your answer and God gaved that to you. I guess thats how parents hearts are, the highest kind of love. If you really need to pass through eastern thoughts to make a path towards Him, sure why not.

Other people shaved their heads regularly as to remind them daily on the search for Gods true heart. Others might think of it as bizarre. Hope it won't hinder your relation to your heavenly Father.

JN 10:30 Jesus says that he and the Father are one.
MT 27:46 Jesus asks God, the Father, why he has been forsaken
I think there is nothing wrong or contradictory in here. Medyo nabulagan o naguluhan ka lang siguro hane?

Have you heared of the saying; "kung ano ang puno sya ang bunga" or "pinagbiyak na bunga". O kaya yung; "magkadikit ang pusod" o "tingin/pakiramdam pa lang, alam mo na". Parang ganoon yon.
Then yung kasunod only proves that Heavenly Father in not Jesus, which is the son. Only that they are one in hearts, mind, purpose. Just like Jesus said to his apostle "you in me and I in you" You see Jesus character, you'll understand God big love for men too.

[shinshinobi]

what do you call a person who believes that there is a single God, that/who/which created everything but refuses to join in any religion?

[Hensoldt]

what do you call a person who believes that there is a single God, that/who/which created everything but refuses to join in any religion?

Irreligious or nonpracticing theist can be used to describe individuals who believe there is a God, but aren't too fond of the bullsh!t and hypocrisy of religion.

[may_abe]

:Dwhat do you call a person who believes that there is a single God, that/who/which created everything but refuses to join in any religion?


:D For me..............this is the person deaf,blind,and disable.They can't believe theres a religion coz they are invisible to all types of religion.

[may_abe]

nice Mr. Joeblack

@may_abe sana nga ganyan lang kagaang

pero may bago naman akong naisip na sagot sa tanong ni shin



WE ARE SINNERS. AND WE ARE CURSED

naku ang tindi nito

pero ang John 3:16 talaga ang susi

:O agree ako I'm sinners. Sana ma enlighten ang mind ko..Gomene..

[Hensoldt]

Relgions do more harm than good, and religious zealots of all shapes and sizes are so delusional, they think that they have the moral high ground over nonbelievers or those of different faiths. Religious zealots don't belong in a civilized society.

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[shintaro]

can somebody answer this?

dont get me wrong, I'm a christian.

i believe this question "what are WE?" only pertains to christians(believers of christ). others would have a different answers depending on whom they believe as "GOD".

i think this question is somehow present in every christians who are experiencing some doubts in their spiritual aspect(that includes me, a catholic). if only people who have wide knowledge about this would answer it in a straight manner, people like me would be enlightened. but as i read most of the replies here, more doubts cloud in my mind.

if ever people get confuse on their faith (can i call that "spiritual crisis"?), it is not because someone raise a question like this but because people who have "knowledge" about it don't answer it straight. anyone who could answer it in layman's term and straight, please do.

ENLIGHTENED US.

[alexb]

Posts #2, #5, #13, & #31 are clear naman and straight :) anything need clarification?

[infinite_trial]

i believe this question "what are WE?" only pertains to christians(believers of christ). others would have a different answers depending on whom they believe as "GOD".

i think this question is somehow present in every christians who are experiencing some doubts in their spiritual aspect(that includes me, a catholic). if only people who have wide knowledge about this would answer it in a straight manner, people like me would be enlightened. but as i read most of the replies here, more doubts cloud in my mind.

if ever people get confuse on their faith (can i call that "spiritual crisis"?), it is not because someone raise a question like this but because people who have "knowledge" about it don't answer it straight. anyone who could answer it in layman's term and straight, please do.

ENLIGHTENED US.

maybe they are only feigning knowledge regarding the subject. someone raised a question what is the threadstarter's definition of a christian, this for me insinuates that, if you are a true christian...you are supposed to know these things and should not ask. then there's someone pretending to be an expert in the bible but with such arrogance...does not portray a good example of a christian.

to the threadstarter: i won't pretend i know the answer but i'll just give you unsolicited advice. if you wanna know more about your religion, about the bible, you could try to research online. i suggest you read ALL the versions of the bible to compare them. but since you've mentioned you are a catholic, you would have to research also about the code of canon law aside from the bible.

about your second question, i'm not sure how to reply to that with an exact answer. there are some people who just want to be labeled as non-practicing <insert religion here> but still believes in a deity. there are people labeled as "creationists" who believe that there's a god who created everything. oftenly, these people are trying to refute evolution. then there are "agnostics" -- some of them believe in a god but do not want to be associated with their religion, while some do not affirm nor deny the existence of a god. if you are confused on where you should belong, you don't really have to "belong" to a certain group to find your sense of spirituality. like what i've said on the other thread, "perfect religion" is relative.

[alexb]

The spotless Son of God has been given as our example, and those who complain of the wrong course of professed Christians are the ones who should show better lives and nobler examples. If they have so high a conception of what a Christian should be, is not their own sin so much the greater? They know what is right, and yet refuse to do it.

[infinite_trial]

and the first one who threw a stone is guilty ;)

the mere fact that those people you are refferin to aren't worthy to be called christians, why should they be bound with your standards? after all, you are the one sayin before that i could do "bad things" since i'm not a christian.

on second thought, your suggestion is okay. since you're sayin that these non-professed christians should be nobler than the professed ones...shouldn't we all quit bein a christian then? :D

[sweetscrazy]

Relgions do more harm than good, and religious zealots of all shapes and sizes are so delusional, they think that they have the moral high ground over nonbelievers or those of different faiths. Religious zealots don't belong in a civilized society.


you seem to come from the same side as Dawkins. The ugly thing about Christianity is that when it comes to the time when they look for answers of the existence of their Chrisitan God, they either become fundamentalist Christians or become religion-hater-atheist.

Religions have helped humanity a billion times more than atheism or agnosticism has. It has helped more people than it has killed (Crusades / Jihad). What makes religion dangerous is dogma, which is ultra-strong in Abrahamic relgions, but not much in Eastern religions

[shintaro]

Posts #2, #5, #13, & #31 are clear naman and straight :) anything need clarification?

yes, because these(2, 5, 13 and 31) hold true to christians only. what if part of the WE are not christians? so what are WE? and also, some of it are conflicting unless you could explain them further into layman's term. that's where confusion arises. ;) don't get me wrong, i am not saying these are wrong but somehow, in the back of my mind there are still cloudy parts.

[alexb]

yes, because these(2, 5, 13 and 31) hold true to christians only. what if part of the WE are not christians? so what are WE? and also, some of it are conflicting unless you could explain them further into layman's term. that's where confusion arises. ;) don't get me wrong, i am not saying these are wrong but somehow, in the back of my mind there are still cloudy parts.

The WE is everybody, Jesus did not come to die for the sins of a few but for everybody, thus everyone is a child of God.

[kakkoii_daw]

the more you criticize other religion, the more you flagellate your own. and by doing so just wont make you feel more superior to others. live and let live.

basta ako, i wont share my knowledge about religion anymore, specifically about occult and mysticism.

ps. i dont practice santeria. :D

[sweetscrazy]

yes, because these(2, 5, 13 and 31) hold true to christians only. what if part of the WE are not christians?.

if you really want to stay in Christianity, then i think you should read up on the lives of Christian mystics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_mystics). They would prove that Christianity is still a path to God, though some of them are controversial :cool:

[adechan]

Puwede po bang itigil na natin eto?

As a Christian as possible, I don't want to be involved this kind of debates. But I cannot tolerate quotations and thoughts na against sa Christians lalo na mali ang pagkakaunawa at kulang ang kaalaman sa tunay na katuruan nang Bibliya.

Hindi po ako patatalo at hindi rin patatalo ang mga kapatiran kong Christian dito, at alam ko ring hinding hindi patatalo si sweetcrazy. Walang patatalo sa atin di ba? Malayo ang mararating natin dito, baka makarating tayo nang middle east.

Kaya ang mas maganda, mag separate thread at huwag nang magpakialaman. Pag thread nang buddhist or any other religions huwag nang magbanggit pa nang iba. Ganoon din ang Christians. Para etong thread for inspirational ay manatili dito sa Timog Forum.

Ngayon ang alam ko sa thread na ito ay katanungan ni Shinshinobi tungkol sa Christian. Kaya dapat ang mga sagot din ay mga patungkol sa Christians.

Kaya Shin kung gusto mong magtanong tungkol sa buddhist, punta ka na lang sa kabila.

And i think this is best para walang WAR ~~~~ peace tayong lahat.

And enjoy our freedom of choices, and speech. At ang mga visitors, mamili na lang sila kung ano ang gusto nilang basahin at paniwalaan.

Let's learn how to love, inspite of all our differences.

[shinshinobi]

remember people, if the spaniards hadnt came to the philippines on 1521, the philippines' primary religion would probably be Islam...

i believe religion should be a choice, and will depend on how a person comprehend things....

as for me, I consider myself a christian, because i follow the teachings of Jesus Christ (real teachings written on the bible, yung hindi imbento ha), but i'm also open to other teachings of Muhammad and Buddha or other prophets as long as their teachings are on the side of what i consider "good"....

i think for myself....

[Stacie Fil]

what do you call a person who believes that there is a single God, that/who/which created everything but refuses to join in any religion?

At this age...?
A. I guess Smart or clever

Specially of he search for God's heart and not religion alone. Im not saying religion is bad. It is one of God's intrument or move to give way and chance for man to connect and become closer to Him. But man relation should be to God and not in religion.

Because even religion can be corrupted by men. Therefore religion is not the final solution.

If you think forward, like some hundred or thousand of years. Assuming men would find a way to give peace a chance. Where do you think religion would stay. Guess only in books or study materials as part of history education.

If all men face their individual weaknesses towards sinning and fallen acts. Made whole again man's relation to God, thus creating a peaceful environment to live. A heaven here on earth, that surely, qualifies us to continue living in that atmosphere of love up to the spirit world. Like Jesus, when God at all times, dwelll in the hearts of all men. Just like in the beginning, man, like Adam and Eve directly percieve, relate with God...



Remember, the only reason religion came was to help elevate man's position and clear up the fog or blinded minds of men, due to his detachment from his relation to God. (Man's original parent/creator) If man hasn't failed in the first place, and the relation was not cut/tarnish. Would there be a need for religion. Would you look for a doctor when no one is sick, or call a life saver when all is safe at shore. For precaution you think? Ha,ha,ha,...



:)

[shintaro]

Specially of he search for God's heart and not religion alone. Im not saying religion is bad. It is one of God's intrument or move to give way and chance for man to connect and become closer to Him. But man relation should be to God and not in religion.

Because even religion can be corrupted by men. Therefore religion is not the final solution.


Remember, the only reason religion came was to help elevate man's position and clear up the fog or blinded minds of men, due to his detachment from his relation to God. (Man's original parent/creator) If man hasn't failed in the first place, and the relation was not cut/tarnish. Would there be a need for religion. Would you look for a doctor when no one is sick, or call a life saver when all is safe at shore. For precaution you think? Ha,ha,ha,...



:)


thanks stacie, i had now a better perspective. the clouds are starting to clear out.:thumb:

[adechan]

thanks stacie, i had now a better perspective. the clouds are starting to clear out.:thumb:

great to know that Stacie_fil made you having new better perspective

it's a relief and I want to say ~~Thanks God!

[shintaro]

great to know that Stacie_fil made you having new better perspective

it's a relief and I want to say ~~Thanks God!

thank you for the concern...GODSPEED;)

[sweetscrazy]

Hindi po ako patatalo at hindi rin patatalo ang mga kapatiran kong Christian dito, at alam ko ring hinding hindi patatalo si sweetcrazy. Walang patatalo sa atin di ba? Malayo ang mararating natin dito, baka makarating tayo nang middle east.

mas mahirap makipag-debate sa atheist kaysa sa Christian, (but I've beaten atheists too before). i always avoid born-agains as much as possible because if they engage me in debate, they end up crying. it happened to me in the office, when they found out i had "special abilities". madaming nagpapahula at nagpapa-heal sakin, when i proved that i had the ability. the born-agains thought the occult was bad so they tried to 'convert' me by debate. of course, debate team ako nung college, so i defended myself by attacking their faith. ayun umiyak sila. everytime they tried to 'convert' me they end up crying. so they stopped and let me be. i only attack their beliefs if they attack mine, self-defense kung baga. I never tell people to accept Buddha/Krishna/Jesus as their personal savior, it's up to them :)

But, I've always been anti-dogma because it makes people stupid and it creates terrorists. So when I see a fundamentalist (i.e. my religion is better than yours), I try to pop his bubble para equal tayong lahat. When a Vajrayani Buddhist thinks he's superior to a Zen Buddhist or a Shaivite yogi, I point out his the flaws or the 'better points' of the other guy to stabilize everything

[infinite_trial]

^ o tol baka may mapaiyak ka dito, madaming born-again. preno preno lang.

[Hensoldt]

Let's learn how to love, inspite of all our differences.

Exactly! :yesyes: :toast:
Love and Respect.

[la_tina512]

@sweetscrazy

I have been in the sidelines reading every post. What is there to debate about? When I share my faith to people who care to listen I don't force them to believe in Jesus down their throats. When God created the heavens and the earth and the people in it God gave us the freedom to choose who and what to believe in. It's your choice and mine. I also avoid to quote verses in the Bible as much as possible. Unless there is an indwelling of the Holy Spirit a person would have a difficult time understanding the things of God.

You seem to be very knowledgeable in your beliefs and that's your choice. Like what infinite_trial had posted, preno preno lang. You are right in posting that born again Christians easily shed tears and I'm not embarrassed to admit that. When the situation calls for it we can do nothing but cry for the people who refuse to believe that Jesus is the Messiah, that the Bible is the final authority. It is not us, it is God's compassion to His lost people, it is God who cries for you and me and I don't force you to believe that.

My Bible says fortune-telling is witchcraft and God abhors it and anyone who practices witchcraft will be thrown to the lake of fire. God is crying out for you for He wants each one of His creation to go back to Him, to be restored and be reconciled.

But again, it's your choice and I pray that God will have mercy on your soul while there is still time. I'm washing my hands right now, in the name of Jesus, in proclaiming that Jesus is the way, the truth and the life and that no one can come to the Father but through Him. I am taking the guilt off my chest by sharing the Word of God for whoever will believe will not perish but have eternal life.

[sweetscrazy]

^ o tol baka may mapaiyak ka dito, madaming born-again

i have a personally puzzling question to ask born-agains. i don't mean to be offensive, i'm just trying to be scientific/psychologist-ic. Did they become born-agains because they were looking for God, or because they were suffering from something and needed a way to cope with it?

i remember when the born-agains were trying to 'convert' me, during the time they were professing their 'Faith in Jesus', they would subconsciously think of their problems or their sufferings that caused them to become born-agains in the first place (i can read minds in close range). So i did an experiment. My hypothesis was the idea of Jesus was 'burying' the sufferings into the subconscious. If i tried to temporarily remove the idea of Jesus, the sufferings would be 'unburied'. So When I tried to 'neutralize' Jesus out of the equation, they started crying. I think that since the idea of Jesus was 'neutralized' (in the conscious state), the 'subconsious sufferings' crept up to replace it in the conscious state resulting in strong emotion (crying). Does this make any sense?

[kakkoii_daw]

So when I see a fundamentalist (i.e. my religion is better than yours), I try to pop his bubble para equal tayong lahat. When a Vajrayani Buddhist thinks he's superior to a Zen Buddhist or a Shaivite yogi, I point out his the flaws or the 'better points' of the other guy to stabilize everything

first time to read about equality in this <insert religion of majority here>-dominated thread.

sana dumami pa ang katulad mo regardless of their belief. :D

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[adechan]

i have a personally puzzling question to ask born-agains. i don't mean to be offensive, i'm just trying to be scientific/psychologist-ic. Did they become born-agains because they were looking for God, or because they were suffering from something and needed a way to cope with it?

i remember when the born-agains were trying to 'convert' me, during the time they were professing their 'Faith in Jesus', they would subconsciously think of their problems or their sufferings that caused them to become born-agains in the first place (i can read minds in close range). So i did an experiment. My hypothesis was the idea of Jesus was 'burying' the sufferings into the subconscious. If i tried to temporarily remove the idea of Jesus, the sufferings would be 'unburied'. So When I tried to 'neutralize' Jesus out of the equation, they started crying. I think that since the idea of Jesus was 'neutralized' (in the conscious state), the 'subconsious sufferings' crept up to replace it in the conscious state resulting in strong emotion (crying). Does this make any sense?

You are really making me smile, go on to what you want to think. You will really never understand what's happening inside the people who was been renewed by the Spirit of God.

And like what i requested, let's stop making debate and bashing each others belief and knowledge.

As a Christian, converting people is not ours. Ours is to share the knowledge and release the gospel of God. It is God who works inside the heart and soul of people.

So let's just have a separate thread and avoid throwing words that will make reactions on both side. And let everyone enjoy the freedom to come to you, or to come to us.

And all of us will be happy.

Peace to you!

[dianne]

i have a personally puzzling question to ask born-agains. i don't mean to be offensive, i'm just trying to be scientific/psychologist-ic. Did they become born-agains because they were looking for God, or because they were suffering from something and needed a way to cope with it?

i remember when the born-agains were trying to 'convert' me, during the time they were professing their 'Faith in Jesus', they would subconsciously think of their problems or their sufferings that caused them to become born-agains in the first place (i can read minds in close range). So i did an experiment. My hypothesis was the idea of Jesus was 'burying' the sufferings into the subconscious. If i tried to temporarily remove the idea of Jesus, the sufferings would be 'unburied'. So When I tried to 'neutralize' Jesus out of the equation, they started crying. I think that since the idea of Jesus was 'neutralized' (in the conscious state), the 'subconsious sufferings' crept up to replace it in the conscious state resulting in strong emotion (crying). Does this make any sense?

sweetscrazy.. if thats your opinion so be it... ala ng magagawa ~~~ tama na po ito .... nakakalungkot isipin na meron talagang ganitong klaseng tao ... respeto lang po para sa mga bellievers .... alam na po ng mga nakakaintindi kung ano ang gusto nyong ipahiwatig.... pero hindi po nangangahulugan na sumasangayon po sila ....kahit ako man po ay hindi rin sangayon... dahil hindi naman po talaga kapanipaniwala ang inyong mga pahiwatig.....God Bless You ...:)

[adechan]

Exactly! :yesyes: :toast:
Love and Respect.

Sana ma gets nang lahat!

When I share my faith to people who care to listen I don't force them to believe in Jesus down their throats. When God created the heavens and the earth and the people in it God gave us the freedom to choose who and what to believe in. It's your choice and mine.

:kiss: I agree ~~~

let's have peace na @sweetcrazy ~~



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how would i react?

funny and true ~~ but everybody have their different ways of understanding, and maturity in regards of faith and knowledge


@dianne ~~ hi there:)

[shintaro]

first time to read about equality in this <insert religion of majority here>-dominated thread.

sana dumami pa ang katulad mo regardless of their belief. :D

i agree with you, this is healthy. we learn from both sides.(i do):cool: as long as walang mapipikon. dahil ang pikon, talunan.


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that is hypocrisy. :yuck:

[sweetscrazy]

o cge, tama na. lumalakas ang negativity sa kabilang side :p

back to neutrality na. do want to know what religion best suits you? try >> belief-o-matic quiz (http://www.beliefnet.com/story/76/story_7665_1.html)

[shinshinobi]

"Christianity has a built-in defense system: anything that questions a belief, no matter how logical the argument is, is the work of Satan by the very fact that it makes you question a belief. It's a very interesting defense mechanism and the only way to get by it -- and believe me, I was raised Southern Baptist -- is to take massive amounts of mushrooms, sit in a field, and just go, "Show me.""---Bill Hicks

[sweetscrazy]

i know a high-position Mormon in Manila who secretly goes to Buddhist group meditations and was secretly initiated to a Buddhist sect. He says he wants to abandon Mormonism but can't because his whole family and community is in it.

[adechan]

i know a high-position Mormon in Manila who secretly goes to Buddhist group meditations and was secretly initiated to a Buddhist sect. He says he wants to abandon Mormonism but can't because his whole family and community is in it.

:):):)

hello sweet sweetcrazy ~~ problema nila yan, i am not a mormon:D

[adechan]

"Christianity has a built-in defense system: anything that questions a belief, no matter how logical the argument is, is the work of Satan by the very fact that it makes you question a belief. It's a very interesting defense mechanism and the only way to get by it -- and believe me, I was raised Southern Baptist -- is to take massive amounts of mushrooms, sit in a field, and just go, "Show me.""---Bill Hicks

are you still searching and confused?

[shinshinobi]

are you still searching and confused?


uhm, no...

share ko lang sabi ni bill hicks regarding christianity...tama naman siya diba?

dont get me wrong, i'm a christian....

[adechan]

uhm, no...

share ko lang sabi ni bill hicks regarding christianity...tama naman siya diba?

dont get me wrong, i'm a christian....

hehehehe

hindi ko siya ganong kilala, siya ba iyung comedian na namatay sa drugs? :confused: gomeni ~~ perhaps thinking of other person

speaking of baptist

dito sa japan, base on my experience, baptist church ang natagpuan kong pinaka safe puntahan for worship, iyung dalawang napuntahan ko is solemn at talaga namang straight ang messages, ang nakakatuwa pa, during message, talaga namang mga hawak nila Bible, at kadalasan may ballpen at notebook. Talagang pinag-aaralan nila ang Bible sa loob mismo nang worship service.

[shinshinobi]

hehehehe

hindi ko siya ganong kilala, siya ba iyung comedian na namatay sa drugs? :confused: gomeni ~~ perhaps thinking of other person


namatay siya sa cancer...

anyway, watch him na lang....a very funny guy..

EfjPrtOANcA

[shinshinobi]

guys and gals, what do you think about the movie

http://zeitgeistmovie.com

?

[adechan]

namatay siya sa cancer...

anyway, watch him na lang....a very funny guy..



thanks for sharing

[shinshinobi]

I wonder kung meron pang gustong humabol ng sagot dito?

[pineapple]

hmmmm ~~~ parang pang commercial

(gomenansai)

my answer:

We are God's children, created unto God's image and likeness, but we lost the title because of Adam and Eve's fall.

To bring back the title is through Jesus Christ.
i agree

we are also child of God. but Jesus christ is the begotten son... angels are also son of God. job 38:7

[my_i_me]

i agree

we are also child of God. but Jesus christ is the begotten son... angels are also son of God.


ate pine...ask ko lang po ang mga angels ba ay ano ang kasarian?
boys ,girl, o may lalaki at babae...:confused:

[pineapple]

i think wala silang gender kasi they are spirts my i me

[my_i_me]

i think wala silang gender kasi they are spirts my i me


thnx ate pine...:)

iyon nga rin po ang sabi sa akin nung jehova's wittness na pumupunta dito...:)

kase po diba maraming mga picture na angel na babae tapos may lalake pa...

salamat po ulit..

[rad]

I wonder kung meron pang gustong humabol ng sagot dito?

alang magawa? nanghalungkat ng lumang gulo? :D