infinite_trial
11-01-2007, 11:47 AM
post taken from the other thread
I am not a Bible scholar, pero favorite ko ang Noah's Ark story, pati mga anak ko iyan ang pinaka alam nila,
kaya alam kong i explain, iyan, for sure hindi lang iyang katulad nang kung ano anong myths lang, Noah's Ark is the answer to Big Bang
Kaya lang magiging OT na ito dito
the story of noah is quite similar (not identical) with the epic of gilagamesh (http://www.ancienttexts.org/library/mesopotamian/gilgamesh/tab11.htm) and here are some excerpts from tablet xi from this link
On the fifth day I laid out her exterior.
It was a field in area,
its walls were each 10 times 12 cubits in height,
the sides of its top were of equal length, 10 times It cubits each.
I laid out its (interior) structure and drew a picture of it (?).
I provided it with six decks,
thus dividing it into seven (levels).
The inside of it I divided into nine (compartments).
I drove plugs (to keep out) water in its middle part.
When a seventh day arrived
I sent forth a dove and released it.
The dove went off, but came back to me;
no perch was visible so it circled back to me.
I sent forth a swallow and released it.
The swallow went off, but came back to me;
no perch was visible so it circled back to me.
I sent forth a raven and released it.
The raven went off, and saw the waters slither back.
It eats, it scratches, it bobs, but does not circle back to me.
Then I sent out everything in all directions and sacrificed
(a sheep).
I offered incense in front of the mountain-ziggurat.
Seven and seven cult vessels I put in place,
and (into the fire) underneath (or: into their bowls) I poured
reeds, cedar, and myrtle.
The gods smelled the savor,
the gods smelled the sweet savor,
and collected like flies over a (sheep) sacrifice.
uy ~~ hindi naman yata nabanggit sa bible na sa maikling panahon lang ginawa ang Noah's ark
okay mah bad it wasn't mentioned but let's assume...noah was 500 years old when he was mentioned in gen 5:32 and 600 years old gen 7:6 when the great flood came. if he had done it alone and even with his family, still it will take time. unless of course, we say there was a "divine intervention". but that defeats the purpose of the ark. e kung ganun gagamit din pala ng special powers, bakit pa nya pahihirapan si noah.
eto pa, di rin siya one pair lang
Peace
one pair (http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt0106.htm#19)
19 And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female.
20 Of the fowl after their kind, and of the cattle after their kind, of every creeping thing of the ground after its kind, two of every sort shall come unto thee, to keep them alive.
vs. seven pairs (http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt0107.htm#2)
2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee seven and seven, each with his mate; and of the beasts that are not clean two [and two], each with his mate;
3 of the fowl also of the air, seven and seven, male and female; to keep seed alive upon the face of all the earth.
which is which? care to enlighten us bible experts? is this a story that we should take literally, semi-literally or metaphorically?
opinions are welcome
I am not a Bible scholar, pero favorite ko ang Noah's Ark story, pati mga anak ko iyan ang pinaka alam nila,
kaya alam kong i explain, iyan, for sure hindi lang iyang katulad nang kung ano anong myths lang, Noah's Ark is the answer to Big Bang
Kaya lang magiging OT na ito dito
the story of noah is quite similar (not identical) with the epic of gilagamesh (http://www.ancienttexts.org/library/mesopotamian/gilgamesh/tab11.htm) and here are some excerpts from tablet xi from this link
On the fifth day I laid out her exterior.
It was a field in area,
its walls were each 10 times 12 cubits in height,
the sides of its top were of equal length, 10 times It cubits each.
I laid out its (interior) structure and drew a picture of it (?).
I provided it with six decks,
thus dividing it into seven (levels).
The inside of it I divided into nine (compartments).
I drove plugs (to keep out) water in its middle part.
When a seventh day arrived
I sent forth a dove and released it.
The dove went off, but came back to me;
no perch was visible so it circled back to me.
I sent forth a swallow and released it.
The swallow went off, but came back to me;
no perch was visible so it circled back to me.
I sent forth a raven and released it.
The raven went off, and saw the waters slither back.
It eats, it scratches, it bobs, but does not circle back to me.
Then I sent out everything in all directions and sacrificed
(a sheep).
I offered incense in front of the mountain-ziggurat.
Seven and seven cult vessels I put in place,
and (into the fire) underneath (or: into their bowls) I poured
reeds, cedar, and myrtle.
The gods smelled the savor,
the gods smelled the sweet savor,
and collected like flies over a (sheep) sacrifice.
uy ~~ hindi naman yata nabanggit sa bible na sa maikling panahon lang ginawa ang Noah's ark
okay mah bad it wasn't mentioned but let's assume...noah was 500 years old when he was mentioned in gen 5:32 and 600 years old gen 7:6 when the great flood came. if he had done it alone and even with his family, still it will take time. unless of course, we say there was a "divine intervention". but that defeats the purpose of the ark. e kung ganun gagamit din pala ng special powers, bakit pa nya pahihirapan si noah.
eto pa, di rin siya one pair lang
Peace
one pair (http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt0106.htm#19)
19 And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female.
20 Of the fowl after their kind, and of the cattle after their kind, of every creeping thing of the ground after its kind, two of every sort shall come unto thee, to keep them alive.
vs. seven pairs (http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt0107.htm#2)
2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee seven and seven, each with his mate; and of the beasts that are not clean two [and two], each with his mate;
3 of the fowl also of the air, seven and seven, male and female; to keep seed alive upon the face of all the earth.
which is which? care to enlighten us bible experts? is this a story that we should take literally, semi-literally or metaphorically?
opinions are welcome