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honey6
03-08-2008, 04:22 AM
Nagtatanong po kasi yung kaibigan tungkol sa problema nya eh wala din naman po akong alam tungkol sa mga batas sa japan, sana po matulungan nyo kami. Ganito po kasi yon nakipagrekkon po kasi sya sa asawa nyang hapon kasi wala na talaga silang feelings sa isat isa pero may gusto po syang magpakasal sa kanya na kaya lang di nya po alam kung anu ano uli yung proseso ng pagpapakasal uli. Dun po sila ikinasal nung una nyang asawa sa pinas, pero dito po sila sa japan nagrekkon.Anu ano daw po kaya ang steps na gagawin nya at mga papeles na kukunin nya para makapagpakasal uli dun sa bago nyang boyfriend.
Sana po mabigyan nyo ng advice ang kaibigan ko. Thanks to all tf friends!
maylyn
03-08-2008, 09:20 AM
hi san po nya balak pakasal? japan po o pinas?:)
honey6
03-08-2008, 11:34 AM
dito po sa japan
maimai
03-08-2008, 01:24 PM
Nagtatanong po kasi yung kaibigan tungkol sa problema nya eh wala din naman po akong alam tungkol sa mga batas sa japan, sana po matulungan nyo kami. Ganito po kasi yon nakipagrekkon po kasi sya sa asawa nyang hapon kasi wala na talaga silang feelings sa isat isa pero may gusto po syang magpakasal sa kanya na kaya lang di nya po alam kung anu ano uli yung proseso ng pagpapakasal uli. Dun po sila ikinasal nung una nyang asawa sa pinas, pero dito po sila sa japan nagrekkon.Anu ano daw po kaya ang steps na gagawin nya at mga papeles na kukunin nya para makapagpakasal uli dun sa bago nyang boyfriend.
Sana po mabigyan nyo ng advice ang kaibigan ko. Thanks to all tf friends!
after ng rekkon nya..kailangan nya po maghintay ng 10 months and 1 day bago sya magpakasal ulit...habang naghihintay sya matapos ang 10 months and 1 day..mag-submit po sya ng REPORT OF DIVORCE sa Phil. Embassy dito sa Japan..isabay nya rin ipa-ammend ang passport nya from married to single name..
nandito po ang mga requirements..http://tokyo.philembassy.ne t/ (http://tokyo.philembassy.ne t/)
jemsteacher
03-08-2008, 09:51 PM
if you married and filed your marriage in the philippines (regardless of what nationality your husband has), even if you have now separated from your husband, your marriage is still binding. you need to annul your marriage...and that would take several steps and months or years maybe, depending on how your lawyer (and court) processes your annulment application. once it's annulled, you can then proceed to marry anew and file a new set of papers for either japan gov't or at Phil. embassy. to make sure your former marriage has been annuled, secure a single certificate at the phil. embassy who will then contact the NSO if indeed that former marriage has been annuled. if so...
THIS TIME, MAKE SURE THE GOVERNMENT YOU ARE FILING YOUR NEW MARRIAGE IN HAS DIVORCE LAWS (SO THAT ANYTIME YOU THINK OF CHANGING YOUR PARTNER, IT WOULD BE EASIER :D) hehe, think first before you marry, and choose the best amog the apples. sana lumigaya ka na friend.
jemsteacher
wolfgang
03-08-2008, 09:54 PM
after ng rekkon nya..kailangan nya po maghintay ng 10 months and 1 day bago sya magpakasal ulit...habang naghihintay sya matapos ang 10 months and 1 day..mag-submit po sya ng REPORT OF DIVORCE sa Phil. Embassy dito sa Japan..isabay nya rin ipa-ammend ang passport nya from married to single name..
nandito po ang mga requirements..http://tokyo.philembassy.ne t/ (http://tokyo.philembassy.ne t/)
tama po ang sinabi ni maimai.....isabay niyo na rin ang pagkuha ng LCCM pero kailangan 10 months ka nang rekkon para mabigyan po ng LCCM;)
v_wrangler
03-09-2008, 12:19 AM
if you married and filed your marriage in the philippines (regardless of what nationality your husband has)
Unfortunately, the nationality of the spouse does matter. Annulment and the time involved apply to filipinos and the Philippine Family Law.
Where a marriage between a Filipino citizen and a foreigner is validly celebrated and a divorce is thereafter validly obtained abroad by the alien spouse capacitating him or her to remarry, the Filipino spouse shall have capacity to remarry under Philippine law. (As amended by Executive Order 227)
Hope this helps.
jemsteacher
03-09-2008, 12:20 AM
don't think that filing a divorce here in japan is equivalent to filing an annulment in the philippines. they are 2 different things you need to do separately. YOU NEED TO ANNUL YOUR MARRIAGE IN THE PHIL. FIRST. NSO can issue record of successful annulment (ammended marriage contract, see below). I QUOTE THE REQUIREMENTS FROM THE PHIL EMBASSY SITE ON LCCM. below. two of my cousins can't remarry easily due to this. contact an embassy lawyer, best thing to do. you need to state clearly the way the marriage in Phil. was filed. if it's just a notification done in DFA, not where the marriage was conducted, it would be easier. i tell you, don't marry anew until your previous has been annulled with DFA authentication (or else, you'd get notification from NSO that you committed bigamy...as what my sister received :p)
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>>>>>For Filipinos whose marriage has been annulled:
Passport
For female applicants: Present original passport and submit one photocopy of first page, page with amendment to “single name,” and last page bearing name of signing officer
For male applicants: Present original passport and submit photocopy of first page and last page
NOTE: If Expired Passport/Lost Passport/Mutilated Passport/Passport under an Assumed Name (AKA/Alias)/Passport with Discrepancy (First Name/Middle Name/Last Name/Date of Birth/Place of Birth), applicant has to apply for a new passport prior to acceptance of application for LCCM. (Please see requirements for the abovementioned passport cases.)
Amended Marriage Contract issued by the NSO (Original & 1 Photocopy) has to be authenticated by Authentication Division, DFA Manila
Certificate of Finality of Decision and Court Order/Decision (Original & 1 Photocopy) has to be authenticated by Authentication Division, DFA Manila
Birth Certificate issued on security paper by the NSO (Original & 1 Photocopy) has authenticated by Authentication Division, DFA Manila
Two (2) passport-size pictures
v_wrangler
03-09-2008, 12:28 AM
don't think that filing a divorce here in japan is equivalent to filing an annulment in the philippines. they are 2 different things you need to do separately. YOU NEED TO ANNUL YOUR MARRIAGE IN THE PHIL. FIRST. NSO can issue record of successful annulment (ammended marriage contract, see below). I QUOTE THE REQUIREMENTS FROM THE PHIL EMBASSY SITE ON LCCM. below. two of my cousins can't remarry easily due to this. contact an embassy lawyer, best thing to do. you need to state clearly the way the marriage in Phil. was filed. if it's just a notification done in DFA, not where the marriage was conducted, it would be easier. i tell you, don't marry anew until your previous has been annulled with DFA authentication (or else, you'd get notification from NSO that you committed bigamy...as what my sister received :p)
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>>>>>For Filipinos whose marriage has been annulled:
Passport
For female applicants: Present original passport and submit one photocopy of first page, page with amendment to “single name,” and last page bearing name of signing officer
For male applicants: Present original passport and submit photocopy of first page and last pageNOTE: If Expired Passport/Lost Passport/Mutilated Passport/Passport under an Assumed Name (AKA/Alias)/Passport with Discrepancy (First Name/Middle Name/Last Name/Date of Birth/Place of Birth), applicant has to apply for a new passport prior to acceptance of application for LCCM. (Please see requirements for the abovementioned passport cases.)
Amended Marriage Contract issued by the NSO (Original & 1 Photocopy) has to be authenticated by Authentication Division, DFA Manila
Certificate of Finality of Decision and Court Order/Decision (Original & 1 Photocopy) has to be authenticated by Authentication Division, DFA Manila
Birth Certificate issued on security paper by the NSO (Original & 1 Photocopy) has authenticated by Authentication Division, DFA Manila
Two (2) passport-size pictures
jems, marriage in Japan between a Japanese and a Filipino is far far different from marriages between Filipinos. First, divorce is not recognized in the Philippines. Like we all know, once you have completed your LCCM and get married in the Japan to a Japanese, you then file a report of Marriage to the Embassy which they forward to the NCSO. And the Filipino's marital status in the Philippines gets updated. The same process is done, this time a Report of Divorce, if a divorce is filed in Japan. You can guess that the Embassy upon receipt of report - forwards them as well to the NCSO in the Philippines.
While I agree that it helps to check your records in the Philippines before committing to another headache.... marriage pala :)
Isa pa, bakit parang ambilis naman ng mga nagdiborsyo - pasakal agad...
Kung ok na ang diborsyo sa Japan sa unang asawa. Tulad ng sinaad ni kabayan wolfgang, at maimai kailangang maghintay ng mahigit sampung buwan bago kumuha ng LCCM at magfile ng kasal sa kuyakushou.
jemsteacher
03-09-2008, 12:57 AM
hehe, wrangler, ang bilis mo sumagot, sasabihin ko pa lang decision ng court, nasabi mo na. anyway, that one you said on "previous spouse granting partner to have subsequent marriage by the husband provided the divorce was obtained legally, consistent with the alien spouse's laws... and submitted to the Phil. DFA for records and authentication...
actually, my sister's 1st hubby was non Filipino...was just asked to appear in court to sign papers...and that's it. i was just pointing out the timing and what needs to be done first before contracting another. my sister didn't do it in the correct way and process. first things first. (good, I didn't file marriage in phil. ;) jokes lang)
below is one note this one asking could refer to from a lawyer's site in Phil.
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>>>>>Marriage annulment in Phil.......
In mixed marriages involving a Filipino and a foreigner, Article 26 of the Family Code allows the former to contract a subsequent marriage in case the divorce is “validly obtained abroad by the alien spouse capacitating him or her to remarry.” A divorce obtained abroad by a couple, who are both aliens, may be recognized in the Philippines, provided it is consistent with their respective national laws.
However such divorce decree obtained by the alien spouse should be presented as a fact. It is well-settled in our jurisdiction that our courts cannot take judicial notice of foreign laws. Like any other facts, they must be alleged and proved
honey6
03-09-2008, 03:27 AM
Thanks po for your reply. Alam ko na po kung ano iaadvise ko sa friend ko regarding that matter. Medyo naguguluhan lang po ako kasi nabasa ko po sa ibang thread na pag dito sa japan ikakasal di na daw po kailangan ipaannul pa yung kasal sa pinas kasi report of divorce nalang daw po ang kailangan na galing sa osaka or tokyo. Pacensya na po for my confusion.
v_wrangler
03-09-2008, 09:58 AM
Thanks po for your reply. Alam ko na po kung ano iaadvise ko sa friend ko regarding that matter. Medyo naguguluhan lang po ako kasi nabasa ko po sa ibang thread na pag dito sa japan ikakasal di na daw po kailangan ipaannul pa yung kasal sa pinas kasi report of divorce nalang daw po ang kailangan na galing sa osaka or tokyo. Pacensya na po for my confusion.
That is exactly the process here in Japan.
The burden of providing the Philippine Government with your updated single or marital status rests with the Philippine Embassy. That is basically what the Report of Divorce does.
The Annulment process is for couples who are both Filipinos.
After 10 months and a day, and the new LCCM (for use for the remarriage) has been approved by the Embassy, then that means the previous marriage has been dissolved already (both in Japan and the Philippines). Di ba?
scrappydoo
03-10-2008, 09:47 PM
Honey6 hello po sayo. Tama po ang sinabi ni wrangler. Dito po sa japan pag nag divorce ka, file ka ng divorce paper sa city hall na tinitirhan nyo, ipasa mo yong new kosekitohon ng asawa ng friend nyo na nakarecord na yong divorce, marriage contract, birthcertificate from NSO (ata) at i submit lahat sa philippine embassy. After 1 wk ata ma rerelease na po yon, isabay nyo na rin ang ammendment ng name nya sa passport. Sasabihin sayo sa embassy na ok na yan at sila na po magpapasa ng Report of divorce mo sa DFA at sa NSO. Tapos kung may visa pa siya, wait lang cya ng 10 months and one day, tanong nya po sa embassy kung ano po ang mga requirements sa pag remarry, kompletohin nya po eto at pwede na po sila ikasal ulit. Di na po kelangan ang annulment pwera po kung sa pinas po sya magpapakasal ulit. Sana po makatulong.:)
honey6
03-12-2008, 07:13 PM
Thanks po for the replies at least ngayon naiintindihan ko na! More power to all timog members. God bless us all!!!!!!!!
isamu
03-22-2008, 11:55 PM
Nagtatanong po kasi yung kaibigan tungkol sa problema nya eh wala din naman po akong alam tungkol sa mga batas sa japan, sana po matulungan nyo kami. Ganito po kasi yon nakipagrekkon po kasi sya sa asawa nyang hapon kasi wala na talaga silang feelings sa isat isa pero may gusto po syang magpakasal sa kanya na kaya lang di nya po alam kung anu ano uli yung proseso ng pagpapakasal uli. Dun po sila ikinasal nung una nyang asawa sa pinas, pero dito po sila sa japan nagrekkon.Anu ano daw po kaya ang steps na gagawin nya at mga papeles na kukunin nya para makapagpakasal uli dun sa bago nyang boyfriend.
Sana po mabigyan nyo ng advice ang kaibigan ko. Thanks to all tf friends!
HI! MEDYO MAHABA HABANG PROSESO yan, dapat kumuha muna ng josekitouhon/kosekitouhon tapos dalin nya dito sa Japan embassy for issuance ng divorce cert na gagamitin nya sa Local civil registry kug san sila kinasal at dadalin sa nso at kapag lumabas na ang approval nun usually it would take 2to3months dats the time na puede na sila magaapply ng legal capacity.
We can assist her dahil isa yan sa ginagawa namin our office ASM ASSISTANCE GROUP at G14 ANTEL TOWER sa tabi lang ng Jpn embassy wid tel#8325757 & look for Sharon
Puede mo sya patawagin sa amin pare maidiscuss namin further yung dapat nyang gawin
Tnx & i hope these could help your friend
maimai
03-23-2008, 09:17 PM
HI! MEDYO MAHABA HABANG PROSESO yan, dapat kumuha muna ng josekitouhon/kosekitouhon tapos dalin nya dito sa Japan embassy for issuance ng divorce cert na gagamitin nya sa Local civil registry kug san sila kinasal at dadalin sa nso at kapag lumabas na ang approval nun usually it would take 2to3months dats the time na puede na sila magaapply ng legal capacity.
We can assist her dahil isa yan sa ginagawa namin our office ASM ASSISTANCE GROUP at G14 ANTEL TOWER sa tabi lang ng Jpn embassy wid tel#8325757 & look for Sharon
Puede mo sya patawagin sa amin pare maidiscuss namin further yung dapat nyang gawin
Tnx & i hope these could help your friend
isamu san..
ang sabi ni honey6 binabalak ng kaibigan nya magpakasal dito sa japan...hindi sa pinas....baka kasi maguluhan si honey6 sa advice nyo...
linawin lang natin ang sinasabi nyo kung sa pinas sila magpapakasal..yan ang proseso gagawin nila..
pero dahil dito sa japan ang balak nila magpakasal ng kaibigan nya...ang kailangan nya ay maghintay ng 10months and 1 day before she can re-marriage..at pagkatapos apply sya ng REPORT OF DIVORCE sa Phil. Embassy dito sa japan....di nya na kailangan gawin yung sinasabi nyo..
sa susunod po pakibasa ng mabuti kung ano ang hinihingi nila tulong..:)
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