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marius
03-14-2008, 09:49 PM
Paano nalang kung sa atin mangyari ang ganito. Di ko akalain na sa high-tech na bansa ay ireject ka o ang mahal mo sa buhay dahil sa kakulangan ng gamit. Mabuti pa sa Pinas kahit sa alley ka patulugin pwede:D



Mar 11, 5:32 AM EDT


Survey finds Japanese hospitals rejected 14,000 emergency patients in 2007
By CHISAKI WATANABE
Associated Press Writer

TOKYO (AP) -- More than 14,000 emergency patients were rejected by hospitals in Japan at least three times before getting treatment in 2007, a government survey said Tuesday.
The results of the survey came amid frequent reports in Japan of patients being rejected because doctors are not available or hospitals lack adequate facilities.
At least 3.5 percent of cases in serious condition were rejected three times or more by hospitals, according to a compilation of reports by ambulance workers conducted by the Fire and Disaster Management Agency.
"The results were more severe than we'd imagined," said Toshimi Koitabashi, an official with the disaster management agency.
In the worst case, a woman in her 70s who had trouble breathing was rejected 49 times in Tokyo, Koitabashi said.
It was unclear what happened to the elderly woman - or any other of the patients in the survey - because the agency did not investigate what happened to these patients after they were taken to hospital, he said.
Of the 411,625 patients in serious condition whose cases were reviewed, 14,387 were rejected more than three times by hospitals, according to the survey. A serious condition was defined as meaning the patient would need more than three weeks of hospitalization.
Patients were rejected because hospitals and clinics did not have enough staff or adequate facilities, according to the survey. Hospitals also said their beds were full.
Hospitals in large cities such as Tokyo and Osaka rejected patients more often than those in smaller cities, the survey showed.
Koitabashi said his agency and the Health Ministry will hold a meeting of local officials to discuss the problem.
"We want local governments to look into a better system to accept emergency patients," he said.
The survey underscores Japan's health care woes, in part created by a shortage of doctors in the country's rapidly aging society.
In some cases, patients have died while waiting for care.
In December, an 89-year-old woman died after an ambulance crew spent two hours trying 30 hospitals before finding one that would accept her for treatment.

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chevelle:)
03-14-2008, 11:09 PM
Okay I'll share my experience ito po ay the other day lang nangyari. di ko na babanggitin yung pangalan ng hospital pero talagang nag-init ang ulo ko dito. The other day po pag-uwi ko galing sa work naabutan ko po yung anak kong panganay na gising na, tinanong ko kung bakit kasi madalas tulog pa sila pag umuuwi ako this was around 7 in the morning tapos sabi nung bata masakit daw ang tyan nya pagkasabi nun bigla na lang sumuka yung bata. so sabi ko baka sinisikmura lang or ano pero wala pa 5 minutes after that punta naman sa cr yung bata at nagdi-diarrhea pala. so para umikli po ang kwento, tsutsukete every 5 minutes yata na nagvomit at nag-cr yung bata so nag-alala na ako so tumawag ako sa hospital na malapit sa amin since ito lang hospital na ito ang may emergency room. Sa totoo lang di ko rin gusto itong hospital na ito dahil nakapunta na ko dito dati. abay isang buwan na akong inuubo at minsan may lagnat pa, pagkatapos akong paghintayin ng 3 oras, check-up-in ako ng wala pang 5 minutes at sabihin sa akin chigau kaze hita daw ako:mad: balik sa kwento, tinanong ako kung ano ang jotai nung bata, di sinabi ko na suka nga ng suka at may diarrhea nga po...alam nyo kung ano sagot sa akin....wait daw ako hanggang 3:30 p.m.:eek: nagulat ako sa sinabi nila, sa inis namin ng asawa ko sabi namin kung ganun din lang sige na at sa ibang ospital na lang kami pupunta sabay bagsak ng phone. so ang ginawa ni hubby tumawag ng ambulance at awa ng Diyos ay nadala kami sa ospital at naasikaso ng maayos ang anak ko. na-confine kami ng isang araw sa hospital para lang ma-check kung ok na ba talaga yung bata. Hayateiru pa naman pala yung sakit na yun, kasi yung katabi naming bed na 22 years old na girl ay ganun din ang nararamdaman.

brownman
03-17-2008, 10:38 AM
14,000 po ba? dito kasi sa nabasa ko 24,089 cases. whatever the figure is, nakakadismaya dahil advanced pa naman sila sa technology pero pagdating sa life and death situations eh pwede kang ma-reject.

read more here
http://search.japantimes.co .jp/cgi-bin/nn20080312a2.html

Trecee
03-17-2008, 04:01 PM
gud pm po! i asked my hubby about this... sabi nya isa daw sa dahilan bakit ayaw tanggapin ng hospital yung mga emergency patient ay natatakot daw ang hospital na sa kanila mamatay yung pasyente. marami daw kasi ngayon ang nagsa-saiban, mga namatayan ng pasyente...nagrerekl amo. at syempre pagnasa SAIBAN na, nan senman daw ang gagastusin.

ini-example pa ni hubby yung nanay manganganak...nanay manganganak tpos may sakit at klangan operahan tpos ddalhin sa hospital na kulang sa gamit, cgurado magdecline dw ang hospital. kesa tatanggapin at sa kanila pa mamatay yung pasyente. at the end, ang hospital pa ang masisisi baka magreklamo dw ang pamilya...aabot pa sa Korte. kaya yung ibang hospital takot tumanggap ng mga emergency(patients).

iba talaga dito sa Japan...ibang tao walang mga KONSENSYA!!!........ .................... .................... ..






(gamit kaya sila ng safeguard!!! hehehe! jowk lng po!)

sarpon
03-17-2008, 05:04 PM
this could be a good opportunity para sa mga Filipino na nasa medical profession. Imbes na yung mga doktor natin ay nag-aaral ng nursing parang mapunta sa US or others, Nihonggo na lang aaralin nila.:)

opappi
03-19-2008, 04:30 PM
Nope this is due to some people na ordinaryong sakit lang ng ulo eh, tumatawag na ng ambulansya. if you notice pag tumawag ka ng emergency..automatic may kasamang bumbero! hehehe:D
what is lacking here is, kulang sila sa common sense. they have no knowledge about first aid application.

rhynissa
03-19-2008, 08:59 PM
tsk tsk tsk, may ganito din pala dito sa Japan? kakatakot din pala.. Kaya naman siguro yung iba ay namamatay pagdinala sa hospital ay kailangan pa nila paghantayin imbes na dalhin agad sa ER ang patient (lalo na pag emergency talaga)..:mad: