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yui
04-13-2008, 11:48 PM
Ok question po:) actually hindi naman siya tanong. magbibigay ako ng statement. You can either approve or contradict(pero pakibigay po ang reason)
Here it goes..

God can do everything.
If God can do everything can He then make a stone so heavy that He won`t be able to lift it?

:)

shi-cel
04-14-2008, 11:36 AM
hello..yui san for me NO

yui
04-14-2008, 12:06 PM
hello..yui san for me NO


ano pong ibig sabihin ng no? no,He can`t make the stone?

yui
04-16-2008, 02:40 AM
Parang napapaso ata sila sumagot:p
hindi po tungkol sa religion ang question,if fact walang kinalaman ni katiting:D nagkataon lang po na yan yung ginamit kong subject. :)

グレン
04-16-2008, 09:43 AM
God can do everything...
...He even sacrificed his own life for the sins of everyone...

yui
04-16-2008, 01:41 PM
God can do everything...
...He even sacrificed his own life for the sins of everyone...

:pbut your getting it all wrong...
ito po ulit yung statement ko..
God can do everything...

ang question ko po ay...
if God can do everything, can He make a stone so heavy that He wont be able to lift it?:)

kakkoii_daw
04-16-2008, 02:08 PM
<?
if (god_can_do_everythi ng) {
echo 'success';
} else {
echo 'just create pebbles';
}
?>

:hihi:

sarpon
04-16-2008, 02:12 PM
nice answer kakoii!:D

God is powerful but He is not stupid... why make the stone so heavy that He can't carry them anymore? doesn't make sense....

yui
04-16-2008, 02:54 PM
Since there`s only very few who tried to answer this dilemma (:confused:) sasagutin ko na lang po:p

I`Ve said perhaps more than twice that this is not a battle between Christians and non-believers and what so ever. I knew that some people may have trouble arguing with his own beliefs and his logical reasoning the moment a statement about God occur.

The statement above is actually an example of a fallacy of logic.
Logical Paradox (contradictory premises) is (ayon po kay manong google) "Establishing a premise in such a way that it contradicts another, earlier premise."

"If God can do everything, can he make a stone so heavy that he can`t lift it."
The first premise establishes a deity that has the irresistible capacity to move objects. The second premise establishes an immovable object impervious to any movement. If the first object capable of moving anything that exists, by definition, the immovable object cannot exist and vise-versa

"If theres an irresistible force, there can be no immovable object. If there is an immovable object, then, there can be no irresistible force":)

Wreinman
04-16-2008, 05:05 PM
galing ah! :D isa pa nga:D

Wreinman
04-16-2008, 05:06 PM
<?
if (god_can_do_everythi ng) {
echo 'success';
} else {
echo 'just create pebbles';
}
?>

:hihi:
i tried it. syntax error daw :hihi:

yui
04-16-2008, 05:14 PM
ok. what about this one?
ngayon alam niyo na po na fallacies yung pinopost ko the next challenge would be to determine what kind of fallacy it is (if possible) or just simply explain kung ano ang mali sa statement:D Yoroshiku po.

1. Our nation will prevail because God is great.


2. A man applies for a job. When the interviewer asked him what his qualifications are he said, I have 5kids, my wife is sick, we have no food no house,no clothes and the winter is coming.

:)

kakkoii_daw
04-16-2008, 05:25 PM
i tried it. syntax error daw :hihi:
dude, try mo magpray over muna, para clean compile... :hihi:

maque
04-16-2008, 05:34 PM
ok to ah sayang di ko agad nakita hehehe...feeling ko naman alam ko nyahahaha... pero sounds familiar on my philo2 subject in college...

yui
04-16-2008, 05:39 PM
ok to ah sayang di ko agad nakita hehehe...feeling ko naman alam ko nyahahaha... pero sounds familiar on my philo2 subject in college...


try niyo po:p meron pa namang 2statements jan:)

KikoyBalayon
04-16-2008, 05:41 PM
God can do everything.
If God can do everything can He then make a stone so heavy that He won`t be able to lift it?

:)

No stone made by God is too heavy for Chuck norris..

maque
04-16-2008, 05:43 PM
ok. what about this one?
ngayon alam niyo na po na fallacies yung pinopost ko the next challenge would be to determine what kind of fallacy it is (if possible) or just simply explain kung ano ang mali sa statement:D Yoroshiku po.

1. Our nation will prevail because God is great.


2. A man applies for a job. When the interviewer asked him what his qualifications are he said, I have 5kids, my wife is sick, we have no food no house,no clothes and the winter is coming.

:)anong nation ba tinutukoy dito hehehe... no connection ung first sa second (thinking ok kaya un) :D

yui
04-16-2008, 05:45 PM
anong nation ba tinutukoy dito hehehe... no connection ung first sa second (thinking ok kaya un) :D


hehe..di ko po nagets ito:confused::p

maque
04-16-2008, 05:52 PM
hehe..di ko po nagets ito:confused::pdi ba sis..shortcut ata ung iniisip ko

what i mean is that when you say that "because God is great" it doesnt follow that "our nation will also prevail".....

sort of like that :D

chevelle:)
04-16-2008, 05:58 PM
hay naku naman mareng yui, wala ako ka-alam alam dito sa mga pumapasok sa isip mo ha...ha...ang dami mo napag-iisip-isip dyan ha.:p

basta ang alam ko lang dun sa situation no. 2 kailangan na sya i-hire ni boss kasi badly needed ng trabaho si manong:p

yui
04-16-2008, 06:02 PM
hay naku naman mareng yui, wala ako ka-alam alam dito sa mga pumapasok sa isip mo ha...ha...ang dami mo napag-iisip-isip dyan ha.:p

basta ang alam ko lang dun sa situation no. 2 kailangan na sya i-hire ni boss kasi badly needed ng trabaho si manong:p

hehehe. sis you`ll be an easy target for all these pag ganyan. :D

prettyfly
04-16-2008, 06:20 PM
my favorite fallacy:

nobody's perfect.
i am nobody.
therefore, i am perfect.

nakalimutan ko na ang mga syllogisms but definitely philosophy is my favorite subject (irony!) !
aba, sasampu lang ata kaming pumasa nyan sa lupit ng prof namen!

yui
04-16-2008, 08:42 PM
my favorite fallacy:

nobody's perfect.
i am nobody.
therefore, i am perfect.

nakalimutan ko na ang mga syllogisms but definitely philosophy is my favorite subject (irony!) !
aba, sasampu lang ata kaming pumasa nyan sa lupit ng prof namen!

di ko din alam kung anong tawag dito.. parang.. affirming the consequent? im not sure. may isa pang pwede di ko maalala..

Here`s something related to that

Practice makes perfect, but nobody's perfect so why practice?

I like this one too

Money isn`t everything
There's mastercard and visa:D

hanikami
04-16-2008, 09:11 PM
yui,

nice thread, kakaiba ha.
philosophy was not my best suit but the discussions can be quite interesting and intellectually stimulating ;)
your thread reminds me of the following piece I got from my bro-in-law... :D

When we drink, we get drunk.
When we get drunk, we fall asleep.
When we fall asleep, we commit no sin.
When we commit no sin, we go to heaven.
Sooooo, let's all get drunk and go to heaven! -- Brian O'Rourke

~hanikami

Wreinman
04-16-2008, 09:42 PM
yui,

nice thread, kakaiba ha.
philosophy was not my best suit but the discussions can be quite interesting and intellectually stimulating ;)
your thread reminds me of the following piece I got from my bro-in-law... :D

When we drink, we get drunk.
When we get drunk, we fall asleep.
When we fall asleep, we commit no sin.
When we commit no sin, we go to heaven.
Sooooo, let's all get drunk and go to heaven! -- Brian O'Rourke

~hanikami
hehehe galing ah! :thumb: pede paki translate? :hihi: :D

yui
04-16-2008, 09:47 PM
yui,

nice thread, kakaiba ha.
philosophy was not my best suit but the discussions can be quite interesting and intellectually stimulating ;)
your thread reminds me of the following piece I got from my bro-in-law... :D

When we drink, we get drunk.
When we get drunk, we fall asleep.
When we fall asleep, we commit no sin.
When we commit no sin, we go to heaven.
Sooooo, let's all get drunk and go to heaven! -- Brian O'Rourke

~hanikami

Oh I remember this statement from college. Sa Psychology po actually. My friend and I have just finished reading a book about Fallacy of logic and we both tried to associate this statement with every rule na may connection dito.:p In the end sabi ni teacher sa umpisa pa lang mali na ang statement pala:O

This is a good example and fun to debate with.;)
Thanks hanikami san:)

KikoyBalayon
04-17-2008, 10:23 AM
Sooooo, let's all get drunk and go to heaven! -- Brian O'Rourke

~hanikami

sa langit wla daw beer/alak.. paano yan? :hihi:

kakkoii_daw
04-17-2008, 10:23 AM
2. A man applies for a job. When the interviewer asked him what his qualifications are he said, I have 5kids, my wife is sick, we have no food no house,no clothes and the winter is coming.


yui, pwede na ba ito?... :hihi:

Job interview...
Boss: Ano ang alam mo?
Juan: Alam ko po kung saan kayo nakatira ng misis mo, at kung saan nakatira ang kabit mo.
Boss: OK! Tanggap ka na!

sa langit wla daw beer/alak.. paano yan? :hihi:
kiks, wala din bang rum? :hihi:

Nottinghill
04-17-2008, 10:26 AM
yui, pwede na ba ito?... :hihi:

Job interview...
Boss: Ano ang alam mo?
Juan: Alam ko po kung saan kayo nakatira ng misis mo, at kung saan nakatira ang kabit mo.
Boss: OK! Tanggap ka na!

Good humor kakoii!


To cast abortion as a solely private moral question,…is to lose touch with common sense: How human beings treat one another is practically the definition of a public moral matter. Of course, there are many private aspects of human relations, but the question whether one human being should be allowed fatally to harm another is not one of them. Abortion is an inescapably public matter

maque
04-17-2008, 09:06 PM
wow grabe ang memory ninyo... i like reading this thread :D