Hitting a Japanese

[brownman]

a few days ago, I was waiting for our train at the station with my family. I had my back turned and didn't notice three drunk Japanese carpenters but I heard them murmuring. as I turned my back, one of them saw our baby and said something to his friend in Japanese. then my wife overheard what they were saying. they actually wanted to start a fight but changed their mind when they saw our baby. one of them was actually insisting and looked like he really wanted to start something. he was then convinced by his fellow jackasses away.

when they left, my wife told me what they were talking about. naturally, it ticked me off.:mad: i told my wife that I've been in fights before but have never started one. but if they as much lay a finger on my family, I'm afraid that I will go to jail for what I'll do.

my question is, when is it considered as self-defense? I've heard only hearsays. some people say that when a Japanese hits you, you should turn around and run to the police. others say that when they throw the first punch/kick, then you can fight back. I've always tried to be as civil and calm but if push comes to shove then I have no other choice but to fight.

I really hate these types of Japanese men. starting a fight but in the end would go to the police crying for help. :mad:

[Soju6]

I don't think It will matter in your case Mr Brownman. Either way you'll be at fault kasi "gaijin" ka. I hope I'm wrong.

OT

Naalala ko tuloy, I had a fistfight w/ a japanese in Shinigawa...long time ago.
Blood all over, his blood. Di umabot sa pulis dahil nakatakbo na ako eh:D.

[v_wrangler]

Brownman, sometimes it helps to pass off trouble when you are with your family. We can always be a hero some other time. The case is different when the life of your loved ones are under a threat - if not - you might want to simply fend the invitation. If you hurt yourself - your family as well will suffer just the same.

Once you hit back - you will also be at fault and may be criminally liable or answer for the hospital expenses or damyos if demanded.

In some cases, I'd probably take sojou's advice - run and congratulate myself later for being a living wise guy.

[drew_nolan]

a few days ago, I was waiting for our train at the station with my family. I had my back turned and didn't notice three drunk Japanese carpenters but I heard them murmuring. as I turned my back, one of them saw our baby and said something to his friend in Japanese. then my wife overheard what they were saying. they actually wanted to start a fight but changed their mind when they saw our baby. one of them was actually insisting and looked like he really wanted to start something. he was then convinced by his fellow jackasses away.

when they left, my wife told me what they were talking about. naturally, it ticked me off.:mad: i told my wife that I've been in fights before but have never started one. but if they as much lay a finger on my family, I'm afraid that I will go to jail for what I'll do.

my question is, when is it considered as self-defense? I've heard only hearsays. some people say that when a Japanese hits you, you should turn around and run to the police. others say that when they throw the first punch/kick, then you can fight back. I've always tried to be as civil and calm but if push comes to shove then I have no other choice but to fight.

I really hate these types of Japanese men. starting a fight but in the end would go to the police crying for help. :mad:

Ganyan naman mga ibang hapon(not generalizing) theyre boasting that they can beat u up.. Meron nag angas sakin na high school student , in the end i THai clinched him and gave him a knee to his face and ended up crying in his mom's skirt, my japanese uncle apologized kahit ako sila nauna. But then i apologized for my actions

[sarpon]

there's no shame in avoiding trouble especially if you are with your family. problema lang ay namimihasa itong mga to na pag gaijin ay kayang-kaya nila. who knows baka yung mga murderers na pumatay sa ilang gaijins ay sa ganito nag-umpisa...

ganun ba ang batas dito? na kahit nag-defend ka lang ay ikaw pa rin ang may kasalanan kung mas malaki ang damage ng kaaway mo? di yata tama yun....

[sakura ui]

hay naku naalala ko tuloy asawa ko kasi may nahatak syang costumer and then dadalhin na nya sa omise yung costumer nung nasa elevator sila tumawag yung asawa ko sa ketai and then nakita ni hapon yung ketai ng asawa ko ang wallpaper nya yung picture ng anak ko sabi ba naman nya sa picture ng anak ko "ang ganda daw pwede mo ba ako pkilala dyan sbi ng asawa ko anak ko yan sbi naman nung hapon pwede ko ba maging girlfrend yan at gusto dw nya sex nandilim paningin ng asawa ko nung pagkabukas ng elevator tinadyakan nya palabas yung hapon at sinapak nya. natakot din ako para sa asawa ko kasi baka magsumbong yung hapon awa naman ng diyos hindi naman sya nagsumbong salamat naman pero bagay lang sa kanya yun na matadyakan sya at masapak anak namin yung binastos nya.. pasensya na po OT nahh....

[vectra1123]

Ignore mo na lang ang mga ganyan! Sanay lang sa bunganga ang mga yan pero di marunong sa suntukan! Bibigyan mo lang ng problema ang sarili mo!Iyakin ang mga iyan! HE!HE!

[brownman]

I don't think It will matter in your case Mr Brownman. Either way you'll be at fault kasi "gaijin" ka. I hope I'm wrong.

OT

Naalala ko tuloy, I had a fistfight w/ a japanese in Shinigawa...long time ago.
Blood all over, his blood. Di umabot sa pulis dahil nakatakbo na ako eh:D.

nice one bro. may mga friends din ako na ganyan din ang ginawa. kaya nga lalaban talaga ako since I'll be taking the heat because I'm the gaijin.

Brownman, sometimes it helps to pass off trouble when you are with your family. We can always be a hero some other time. The case is different when the life of your loved ones are under a threat - if not - you might want to simply fend the invitation. If you hurt yourself - your family as well will suffer just the same.

Once you hit back - you will also be at fault and may be criminally liable or answer for the hospital expenses or damyos if demanded.

In some cases, I'd probably take sojou's advice - run and congratulate myself later for being a living wise guy.

I will try to avoid fighting as much as possible. but, think of the situation I was in. it happened on the platform while waiting for the train. they were planning to hit me while my back was turned (like the "men":confused: they are). my family was in front of me. kumbaga eh talagang madadamay ang family ko if ever tinuloy nila. if you were in my shoes, would you turn around and talk to them? ask them to stop what they're doing? I'm sure you'd also snap di ba?

Ganyan naman mga ibang hapon(not generalizing) theyre boasting that they can beat u up.. Meron nag angas sakin na high school student , in the end i THai clinched him and gave him a knee to his face and ended up crying in his mom's skirt, my japanese uncle apologized kahit ako sila nauna. But then i apologized for my actions
may mga maangas at barumbadong highschool students dito na akala eh kaya nila lahat. siguro they're going through that teenage stage din kaya sila mapusok.

there's no shame in avoiding trouble especially if you are with your family. problema lang ay namimihasa itong mga to na pag gaijin ay kayang-kaya nila. who knows baka yung mga murderers na pumatay sa ilang gaijins ay sa ganito nag-umpisa...

ganun ba ang batas dito? na kahit nag-defend ka lang ay ikaw pa rin ang may kasalanan kung mas malaki ang damage ng kaaway mo? di yata tama yun....

yon nga din ang tanong ko bro eh. pero mukhang ikaw talaga ang magiging at fault kasi ikaw ang taga-labas.

hay naku naalala ko tuloy asawa ko kasi may nahatak syang costumer and then dadalhin na nya sa omise yung costumer nung nasa elevator sila tumawag yung asawa ko sa ketai and then nakita ni hapon yung ketai ng asawa ko ang wallpaper nya yung picture ng anak ko sabi ba naman nya sa picture ng anak ko "ang ganda daw pwede mo ba ako pkilala dyan sbi ng asawa ko anak ko yan sbi naman nung hapon pwede ko ba maging girlfrend yan at gusto dw nya sex nandilim paningin ng asawa ko nung pagkabukas ng elevator tinadyakan nya palabas yung hapon at sinapak nya. natakot din ako para sa asawa ko kasi baka magsumbong yung hapon awa naman ng diyos hindi naman sya nagsumbong salamat naman pero bagay lang sa kanya yun na matadyakan sya at masapak anak namin yung binastos nya.. pasensya na po OT nahh....

kulang pa yon. hehehe:)

Ignore mo na lang ang mga ganyan! Sanay lang sa bunganga ang mga yan pero di marunong sa suntukan! Bibigyan mo lang ng problema ang sarili mo!Iyakin ang mga iyan! HE!HE!

iyakin nga. ngayon lang ako nakakita ng ganito kadaming tao na umiiyak lalo na pag natatalo. kahit sa TV andami eh.

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eto medyo OT din. before I came to Japan I've always had this huge amount of respect for people older than I am. "igalang ang nakakatanda" ika nga nila. ever since I've been here in Japan, this respect, most especially for older guys has significantly gone down and is continuously dropping. the more I stay here, the more I'm hating Japanese men. one of these days I'm afraid I'm just going to lose it and snap!:mad:

[Bluemax]

eto medyo OT din. before I came to Japan I've always had this huge amount of respect for people older than I am. "igalang ang nakakatanda" ika nga nila. ever since I've been here in Japan, this respect, most especially for older guys has significantly gone down and is continuously dropping. the more I stay here, the more I'm hating Japanese men. one of these days I'm afraid I'm just going to lose it and snap!:mad:

Wag kang mag isip ng ganyan bro, kung pwede nating gawin sa dilim, gawin na lang sa dilim.. hehehehe basta walang makakakita. hehehe Mahirap kasi tayong mga lalaki pag ganyan ang nakikita natin, dumudilim paningin natin e. Kaya, gawin natin yan sa dilim at pag wala ang pamilya natin... pero kung pwede lang naman, peace na lang ..hehe:cool:

[LeCois]

OT lang po:

Last Friday I was with my housemate sa Roppongi. I'm currently staying in a guest house so iba-ibang lahi nandito..

The English guy told me to remember two things in Japan:
1. Never admit to the police that you have committed such act (if caught).
2. Run away from the crime scene as fast as you could after beating a Japanese.

Matagal na rin sya dito kaya marami na syang experience. I hope that thing wont happen to me kasi dito sa Japan they are more on fist fights and brawl, given na yun pwede ka lumaban ng patas. Sa Pinas pag napa.away ka, swerte ka kung walang mag.dadala ng ice pick o dagger.

[brownman]

OT lang po:

Last Friday I was with my housemate sa Roppongi. I'm currently staying in a guest house so iba-ibang lahi nandito..

The English guy told me to remember two things in Japan:
1. Never admit to the police that you have committed such act (if caught).
2. Run away from the crime scene as fast as you could after beating a Japanese.

Matagal na rin sya dito kaya marami na syang experience. I hope that thing wont happen to me kasi dito sa Japan they are more on fist fights and brawl, given na yun pwede ka lumaban ng patas. Sa Pinas pag napa.away ka, swerte ka kung walang mag.dadala ng ice pick o dagger.

madali sana magsinungaling at hindi umamin bro. pero dito sa Japan nagkalat ang security cameras. malas nalang pag nakunan siguro ng video.

actually, my friend was caught when he got into a fight with a fellow foreigner. the police just asked why they fought. he said, that his opponent was drunk, disrespected his date and was acting violently. the police didn't care. that was it. it's so one sided. they didn't even take them to the station.

[Gerri]

bro, the best thing you've done is you did nothing. The moment you decided to exchange blows against the three jackasses, you put your wife and your baby in a more dangerous situation. Remember, there were three of them.

a few days ago, I was waiting for our train at the station with my family. I had my back turned and didn't notice three drunk Japanese carpenters but I heard them murmuring. as I turned my back, one of them saw our baby and said something to his friend in Japanese. then my wife overheard what they were saying. they actually wanted to start a fight but changed their mind when they saw our baby. one of them was actually insisting and looked like he really wanted to start something. he was then convinced by his fellow jackasses away.

when they left, my wife told me what they were talking about. naturally, it ticked me off.:mad: i told my wife that I've been in fights before but have never started one. but if they as much lay a finger on my family, I'm afraid that I will go to jail for what I'll do.

my question is, when is it considered as self-defense? I've heard only hearsays. some people say that when a Japanese hits you, you should turn around and run to the police. others say that when they throw the first punch/kick, then you can fight back. I've always tried to be as civil and calm but if push comes to shove then I have no other choice but to fight.

I really hate these types of Japanese men. starting a fight but in the end would go to the police crying for help. :mad:

[Soju6]

[quote=brownman;60874 8]nice one bro. may mga friends din ako na ganyan din ang ginawa. kaya nga lalaban talaga ako since I'll be taking the heat because I'm the gaijin.

I was in a small bar, batukan ba naman ako di ko naman siya kilala, aba eh tinawanan pa ako. May nagsabi sa akin ganun daw sila pag natutuwa.
Ok! I understand. Once maybe but twice? Like I said matagal na yun ang I was a young pup then so..

[brownman]

bro, the best thing you've done is you did nothing. The moment you decided to exchange blows against the three jackasses, you put your wife and your baby in a more dangerous situation. Remember, there were three of them.

I didn't do anything because they didn't do anything. if they did..... I actually don't know what I could've done. one thing's for sure, it would've been violent.

thanks for the comment though.

[quote=brownman;60874 8]nice one bro. may mga friends din ako na ganyan din ang ginawa. kaya nga lalaban talaga ako since I'll be taking the heat because I'm the gaijin.

I was in a small bar, batukan ba naman ako di ko naman siya kilala, aba eh tinawanan pa ako. May nagsabi sa akin ganun daw sila pag natutuwa.
Ok! I understand. Once maybe but twice? Like I said matagal na yun ang I was a young pup then so..

kaya pala. the old "batok". di lang tuloy batok ang inabot niya. :D

ewan ko lang kung nambabatok pa siya ngayon.