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Kanlungan
02-22-2006, 06:18 PM
di ko alam kung may thread na para rito, i searched but could not find any. ano ba ang requirements para makakuha ka ng life insurance (生命保険) dito sa japan? kinakailangan ba na "permanent resident " ka para makapag-apply rito? paano kung working visa ka lang, di ba pwede? meron ba kayong alam na best deal?

share naman...

neblus
02-22-2006, 07:17 PM
May life insurance ako dito sa Japan, thru Company and also sa AIG.

Wala akong permanent and naka working visa lang ako. The only thing required is a valid visa.

Maraming klase ng plan so check mo rin kung anong bagay sa iyo based on future plans.

;)

Kanlungan
02-23-2006, 09:00 AM
salamat neblus! dito kasi sa lugar namin, minsan may insurance agent ng sumitomo life insurance (住友生命保険) na nagtanong sa akin kung gusto kong mag-apply. pero, nang malaman na di naman pala ako permanent resident ay di na lang itinuloy. siguro, kino-consider din nila kung tatagal ka sa japan, ano?

iba pa ba ang accident insurance while on work kaysa doon sa sinasabi mong life insurance sa kompanya n'yo? paki-elaborate naman...

Spinnaker
02-23-2006, 11:09 AM
is life insurance for japan any different? [the insured passes away, the next of kin gets the benefit]. what is it with that life insurance needs to be a japanese provider, when life protection can be opted for worldwide cover?

probably because here in japan, the dead must be cremated? or repatriated if the family does not wish to cremate the body?

just asking..

neblus
02-23-2006, 07:52 PM
Hi Kanlungan,

Siguro iyong Sumitomo Seimei ganon iyong policy nila.

Depende rin kasi sa insurance provider. Iyong kinuha ko is AIG so hindi naman ako sinabihan ng ganyan though AIG kasi American company kaya baka mas loose iyong kanilang requirements.

May iba-ibang klase ng insurance and below are samples lang ng mga plans na tiningnan ko.
(1) Life Insurance
(2) Hospitalization Insurance with Life Insurance
(3) Accident Insurance
(4) Salary Insurance

etc.

Iyong kinuha ko kasi iyong #2 na hospitalization with life insurance. Depending sa kumpanya, may definition ng "applicable" na sakit and most insurance maximum of 120 days lang sa hospital ang babayaran.

So tingnan mo rin:
(1) Ano bang sakit ang gusto mong i-cover ng insurance - sa Japan common ang cancer or "gan-hoken"
(2) Ilang days ang maximum coverage - siguro 120 days enough na

Iyong tiningnan kong Accident Insurance, may "fixed" definition din ng accident so hindi lahat ng aksidente babayaran nila.

Regards :eek:

neblus
02-23-2006, 08:00 PM
Hi Striver,

Not really familiar with insurance business but basically true, someone passes away and next of kin gets the insurance.

True also that you do not have to get this in Japan. You can sign up for an insurance in Phils and get the same benefits.

But why Japan?

(1) Mostly convenience since I am based here
(2) Tax incentives. You can just do a straight deduction of insurance premiums from your taxable income
(3) Less hassle - I could get one in Phils but I need to make sure that I have enough money in my bank account over there to cover payments plus if I go to the next life, my family who is also based here need to contact someone in Phils to get what I paid for
(4) Applicability - Might not be true but I was thinking that lifestyle here is different from lifestyle in Pinas and they have plans that are more appropriate for Japan or Japan-based individuals.

But yes, since I opted to sign up for AIG, my plan is valid anywhere else where there is an AIG office and I made sure to check that in the contract.

neblus
02-23-2006, 08:01 PM
Sorry hindi pala STRIVER... but SPINNAKER

docomo
02-23-2006, 08:52 PM
not really familiar with how the insurance market here in japan...i am assuming that there are foreign players present in the japanese market ? or is it mandatory to get insurance coverage from a japanese provider only?

just asking myself :)

Spinnaker
02-23-2006, 11:42 PM
salamat po neblus. wala pong problema about the "mistaken identity".. interesting and valid viewpoints.

anyways, since there are good discussions going on, magdagdag na po ulit ako.

i don't know about the hospitalization insurance, but from where i was before coming to japan (other than our motherland), i can only get hospitalization coverage if i am a permanent resident, which was not the case. buti na lang merong cover from the employer, but with different percentage of cover depende sa reasons of hospitalisation. buti naman hanggang opd (out-patient) lang kami.

onaji din kaya dito? maaari siguro kaya medyo dumistansya ang insurance agent upon learning na hindi permanent resident si kasamang Kanlungan. gaya nyo, hindi din ako (buong pamilya) permanent resident dito.

Kanlungan
02-24-2006, 09:38 PM
@docomo... there are definitely some foreign players in the insurance market here in japan, that include AIG as neblus had mentioned.

@spinnaker... the social health insurance (社会保険) or the national health insurance (国民保険)covers part of hospitalization (about 70-80 %) of any member of your family. your company subsidizes half of the monthly dues if you are enrolled in the social health insurance.

what i am not sure of is the coverage of hospitalization insurance in "(2) Hospitalization Insurance with Life Insurance" introduced by neblus. di ba magdo-doble kung enrol ka na sa either social health insurance or national health insurance? paki-elaborate naman neblus, and thanks a lot for the replies!

thunderstorm
02-25-2006, 10:34 AM
ay naku mukhang malabo ang iniisip mo, kung ako sayo, sa pilipinas kanalang mag apply for international life insurance, gaya ng medicard, mura pa; :)

Kanlungan
02-25-2006, 12:11 PM
@thunderstorm... di naman siguro malabo. i am just trying to think of other options and possibilities. you may also ponder on what neblus has shared and i quote:

"But why Japan?

(1) Mostly convenience since I am based here
(2) Tax incentives. You can just do a straight deduction of insurance premiums from your taxable income
(3) Less hassle - I could get one in Phils but I need to make sure that I have enough money in my bank account over there to cover payments plus if I go to the next life, my family who is also based here need to contact someone in Phils to get what I paid for
(4) Applicability - Might not be true but I was thinking that lifestyle here is different from lifestyle in Pinas and they have plans that are more appropriate for Japan or Japan-based individuals."

would you also like to comment on why it is better in the philippines... aside from being "mura"?

neblus
02-25-2006, 12:31 PM
Hi Kanlungan,

Iyong sa National Health insurance nila will cover most of nagastos sa hospital. Mga 70 to 80 percent ng gastos - kagaya ng nasabi mo.

Iyong Hospitalization Insurance naman will "guarantee" daily allowance regardless of expenses and will start pag nag-overnight ka sa hospital. May mga option na pwede kang mamili kung magkano iyong allowance. Sa AIG:

(1) 5,000 yen per day
(2) 7,000 yen
(3) 10,000 yen

Most of insurance companies maximum of 120 days lang ibibigay pero may mga plans na depende sa sakit, unlimited iyong total number of days na babayaran ka nila.

Of course depende sa plan mo kung magkano per month.

Iyong combination ng Hospitalization + Life, meron kang daily allowance plus iyong Life insurance din na depende rin sa plan kung magkano.

luvberry
06-22-2006, 09:59 AM
Kasi po, nasa pangalan pa ng mother in law ko ang beneficiary ng insurance ng asawa ko.. Nasa abunai na trabaho ang asawa ko at minsan nag shishimpai ako na baka minsan maaksidente sya at me sakit pa na Hypertension.. E paano naman po kami kung ano ang mangyari sa kanya.. Ayoko naman po syang ma-offend at ang Mother nya na mabait naman sakin, whatever about sa hoken na maiiwan nya at mother pa nya ang beneficiary.. Me maliit pa ho ako.. Kahit di po ba kaming pamilya nya ang beneficiary (Wife, kids) Ay me makukuha din ba kaming share?? kahit sana konti lang na pang aral pa ng mga kids ko.. Nagtanong po ako sa friend ko at sabi nya sa akin na kailangan na mag Japanese Citizen daw muna ako bago ako makakuha daw ng share or maitransfer sa name ko ang beneficiary.. Permanent visa na po kasi ako..Ayaw ko naman mag Japanese citizen..Totoo po ba yon?? Share naman po please..:confused:

wolfgang
06-22-2006, 10:31 AM
Hello,,,,miss luvberry,,,,sa tingin ko po hindi po totoo yung sinabi nang friend mo na kailangan ehh japanese citizen ka para mailipat ang pangalan mo at anak mo sa benificiary nang asawa mo..Ako po kasi noon nagpakasal kami nang asawa ko,,,mga three months lang inilipat na po sa akin yung beneficiary ....kaya po pumunta yung tao sa insurance tapos pinapirma na po nila ako.....pagkapangana k ko naman dinagdag lang yung pangalan nang anak ko...DAti kasi biyenan ko rin ang beneficiary nang asawa pero inayos niya at sinabi niya sa insurance na nag-asawa na siya kaya papalitan na yung benificiary niya...Yun ppo ang ginawa nang asawa ko ehh...
Kaya nga po ngayon pag-nagbibiruan kami about insurance..nakiki-usap siya na bigyan ko daw po yung nanay niya....
Sana po kausapin niyong maigi yung asawa niyo na ilipat na po sa pangalan niyo yung insurance niya kasi may anak na po kayo ehh...
Hintay din po kayo diyan nang ibang mga suggestion galing sa mga Ka TF
Sana po naka..tulong kahit paano:)

pointblank
06-22-2006, 10:37 AM
Nagtanong po ako sa friend ko at sabi nya sa akin na kailangan na mag Japanese Citizen daw muna ako bago ako makakuha daw ng share or maitransfer sa name ko ang beneficiary.. Permanent visa na po kasi ako..Ayaw ko naman mag Japanese citizen..Totoo po ba yon?? Share naman po please..:confused:

Hindi, hindi kailangan maging Japanese citizen para maging beneficiary ng insurance policy. Walang kinalaman ang nationality diyan. Basta't ang pangalan mo ang nakalagay as beneficiary, it should be OK, lalo na kung legally married kayo.

Isang possibleng solusyon diyan sa problema mo: ipa-transfer mo sa pangalan ng mga anak mo ang beneficiary. Totoong baka ma-offend ang mother-in-law mo kung sa yo ililipat ang pangalan (mother vs daughter-in-law rivalry), pero di naman siguro siya magagalit kung sa APO mapupunta, ano? (Well, depende din yan sa mga relationships within your husband's family. Tsaka check mo na rin kung papayag ang insurance company niyo na minors ang beneficiary.)

luvberry
06-22-2006, 10:55 AM
Salamat sa reply nyo.. Question uli.. E kung kaming lahat kaya ang beneficiary, (ako,biyenan ko, kids namin) pwede kaya yon? Kawawa naman mother in law ko.. sya nagpaaral sa hubby ko sa Dai-gakko e.. sensya na at maraming tanong..

maverick_jp
06-22-2006, 02:10 PM
Kanlungan,

Mas maganda kung i-share mo din dito kung ano purpose mo at kung bakit mo gusto ng Life Insurance dito sa Japan. Para makakuha ka ng magandang advise. You have mentioned na hindi ka permanent visa, working visa ka ba or nandito din ba ang family mo? Nebius mentioned na kumuha sya ng life insurance dito sa Japan dahil nandito na rin ang Family nya. Kung ang mga beneficiary mo ay nasa pinas, doon ka na lang kumuha ng Life Insurance.
Kung Health Insurance naman sa tingin ko sapat na yung National Health Insurance ( 70% covered ) so 30% na lang sa iyo.

Maverick_jp

luvberry
06-22-2006, 02:57 PM
Kanlungan,

Mas maganda kung i-share mo din dito kung ano purpose mo at kung bakit mo gusto ng Life Insurance dito sa Japan. Para makakuha ka ng magandang advise. You have mentioned na hindi ka permanent visa, working visa ka ba or nandito din ba ang family mo? Nebius mentioned na kumuha sya ng life insurance dito sa Japan dahil nandito na rin ang Family nya. Kung ang mga beneficiary mo ay nasa pinas, doon ka na lang kumuha ng Life Insurance.
Kung Health Insurance naman sa tingin ko sapat na yung National Health Insurance ( 70% covered ) so 30% na lang sa iyo.

Maverick_jp


Hello @Maverick_jp... Ako na po ang nagtatanong.. dina po si Mr. or Mrs. Kanlungan or whatever.. Ako na lang po ang sagutin nyo.. Iam so delighted if you answer my queries and have infos about beneficiaries.. Thank you po..

maverick_jp
06-22-2006, 04:17 PM
Hello @Maverick_jp... Ako na po ang nagtatanong.. dina po si Mr. or Mrs. Kanlungan or whatever.. Ako na lang po ang sagutin nyo.. Iam so delighted if you answer my queries and have infos about beneficiaries.. Thank you po..

Paumanhin Luvberry, medyo ngayon lang kasi ako nagising sa matagal na pagkakatulog, di ko napansin matagal na pala yung inquiry ni Kanlungan.:O

Anyways, yung sa tanong mo na kung pwede kayong lahat ang beneficiary? Depende yan sa policy ng Insurance ng asawa mo. Normally kasi meron primary beneficiary, secondary beneficiary. Secondary means kung di na available yung primary automatic sa secondary beneficiary mapupunta yung claims.
Pwede rin na gumawa na lang kayo ng isang kasulatan na 50/50 or kung paano maghahati kayong mga beneficiary, then pa acknowledge nyo sa insurance company ng asawa mo.:)

Maverick_jp

luvberry
06-22-2006, 06:00 PM
Paumanhin Luvberry, medyo ngayon lang kasi ako nagising sa matagal na pagkakatulog, di ko napansin matagal na pala yung inquiry ni Kanlungan.:O

Anyways, yung sa tanong mo na kung pwede kayong lahat ang beneficiary? Depende yan sa policy ng Insurance ng asawa mo. Normally kasi meron primary beneficiary, secondary beneficiary. Secondary means kung di na available yung primary automatic sa secondary beneficiary mapupunta yung claims.
Pwede rin na gumawa na lang kayo ng isang kasulatan na 50/50 or kung paano maghahati kayong mga beneficiary, then pa acknowledge nyo sa insurance company ng asawa mo.:)

Maverick_jp


Naku pasensiya na kayo at ginising ko pa kayo.. thank you po sa infos.. :tiphat: