TF Auctions

[crispee]

Dahil meron tayong space para sa Timog market, posible rin kayang isama ang auctions dito? Pwede tayong magsimula sa mga personal stuff, mga unwanted gifts, inaalikabok na gamit at kahit ano na pwede pang pakinabangan ng iba.

Ito's suggestion lang naman.

[nick]

Hello crispee. So how does this work? Do we need special software for this? Or could it be an improvised auction where people just post an amount higher than the last poster?

[crispee]

Good evening Nick,
I am not really familiar on programming and how this vBulletin works. I assumed we have that kind of plugin or the like so....
maybe we can start with the improvised auction wherein the auctioneer sets the initial price, minimum price for every bid, and the duration of the bidding.

Just my thoughts, of course you and the other mods must have better suggestions for sure.

Thanks.

[myukasky]

Dahil meron tayong space para sa Timog market, posible rin kayang isama ang auctions dito? Pwede tayong magsimula sa mga personal stuff, mga unwanted gifts, inaalikabok na gamit at kahit ano na pwede pang pakinabangan ng iba.

Ito's suggestion lang naman.

Wow ganda naman ng idea mo mr crispee.:D Kung madevelop itong auctions for TF makakatulong siguro sa mga members. At least dito may idea ka kung sino gumamit or may ari. kahit siguro maliit na halaga lang nakakatuwa na rin at nakatulong ka pa sa iba;)

[tfcfan]

Sana matuloy to!
Good idea Crispee San:wink:
Yung pag-bi-bid sana tru posting na lang then may isi-set na day and time limit sa item na ini-auction:)

[bell]

oo nga...magandang idea yang naisip mo Crispee..sana mstuloy at ng yon di marunong magbasa ng kanji kahit dito na lang sila sa tf auction pumunta..:D

[ichimar]

gusto ko ito,thank you kuya crispee,nice idea:)

[stanfordmed]

That would be cool!:thumb:

[d_southpaw]

Obserbasyon ko lang sa mga kailangan sa auctions:

1/ May mga kailangang gawin na safety measures, halimbawa papaano maiiwasan ang bid rigging o tsuriage rakusatsu. Pwede kaseng magkaroon ng 'fake' bidders, to show that bids are coming and to jack the price up. This is one of the biggest challenges of online bidding.

Mas simple yong "selling section" where the seller sell for the price he/she wants.

2/ Ganon din, kailangan ng system kung papaano magkakaroon ng reputation yong sellers at buyers, although for the long TF residents and those who met personally already can account for that.

My 2 yen thoughts.

[3rdy]

Sana matuloy to. Kasi puede tayong mag ship para Pinas di gaya ng YahooJp Auctions local lang delivery.

[Dax]

I agree with d_southpaw, kailangan ng safety/security measures. This would mean a lot of work for our moderators. Malamang mangangailangan tayo ng identity verification (which would defeat the anonymous policy of TF), para maiwasan ang mga sellers na mandaraya at mga fake bidders. I have bought a few items at Yahoo Japan Auction back in 2000 or 2001 before they became strict on identity verification. Buti maayos naman ang mga nabili ko. Nagkaproblema kasi sila noon sa dami ng sellers na iba ang gamit na pinapadala sa pinag-auction nila! :mad:

[WareWare]

Mahirap nga ang safety measures. Sa Yahoo! Japan, hindi ka makaka bid/sell if hindi ka registered. Registration is done/secured through credit card and that same card is billed for the monthly usage dues.

Auction is a very good idea for us here in Japan. Nakakatipid talaga minsan. The good thing kung tayotayo lang is the clarity of information that we will get in negotiating along the way, hindi nga gaya sa Yahoo!Jp na mahirap, kasi in Japanese.

Sana matuloy.

[docomo]

if ever matuloy , i think mas ok to change the thread name from TF auctions to TF marketplace. the reader might have been misled by the term 'auction' ; pag auction kasi parang highest bidder .

to make it simple , someone can post an item with the corresponding price . the seller can state for instance thet he/she is willing to part with a laptop computer for instance. the important things to post are the specs ,the condition (new as in unused, mint as in used but well taken care of, slightly used, used). the amount (specify if the item price is negotiable or firm.. as in wala ng tawad ). place of exchange (pick-up,delivery,or meet at a designated place and time). also specify that an item can be reserved for a day (for inspection purposes only) .

as always , first come first served basis ..

suggestion lang po:)

[Little Johnny]

On the contrary, i believe it's better to have a bidding type auction. what if several members want to buy an item, and the one who gets to buy the item is the one with the fastest fingers? kind of unfair, don't you think?

why not post (in addition to all the details) the minimum bid and the deadline of the bids? the highest bidder, who turns out to be the most in need of that item, gets to buy it. sounds fair to me.....

but then again, we should do the whole thing in the most civil way. Just keep things within the bounds of this forum.

peace everyone.

[crispee]

Good evening minasan,
Maraming salamat sa mga points and suggestions. As usuall, walang bagay na madaling gawin o mag-materialize. Kaya kailangan natin ang mga additional ideas para kung saka-sakali ay magkaroon tayo ng Tf auctions.

My point of views:

@ d_southpaw --> ...papaano maiiwasan ang bid rigging o tsuriage rakusatsu.

Mahirap maiwasan ang ganito, kahit na sabihin natin na may safety measures. Ang alam kong paraan para malaman na sumasali sa bidding ang auctioneer ay kung ma-check ang kanyang IP number. Although applicable lang ito sa Static IP's. Bukod dito, hindi naman talaga mawawala ang risk sa lahat ng activities online. Ang tanong, kaya mo bang sirain ang iyong 'virtual image' sa isang magandang community forum?

.....papaano magkakaroon ng reputation yong sellers at buyers...
Unti-unti rin tayong magkakaroon ng magandang reputasyon sa loob ng forum sa pamamagitan ng mga comments na maggagaling sa mga bidders/buyers. Malaking puntos ang pagbibigay ng kahit maikling pananaw tungkol sa ayos ng item at komunikasyon sa pagitan ng mga lalahok.


@ Dax --> Malamang mangangailangan tayo ng identity verification (which would defeat the anonymous policy of TF)

Hindi naman siguro aabot sa ganito. Parang timog market din ang kalalabasan ng TF auction. Ang pagkakaiba ay yung bidding. Pag dumating na yung deadline ng bidding, the highest bidder gets the item involved. Ang susunod na transaction ay close na doon sa nagbenta at nag-bid at automatic na labas na rin ang TF admin sa anumang bulilyaso (kung meron man).

@Docomo
I will stick to TF auctions;) Mas may thrill yung bidding. And we can bid for fun.

Maraming salamat uli sa inyong mga ideas at suporta. Sana nga ay masubukan din natin ang auction sa loob ng TF. Pero kung ok na tayo sa simpleng interaction, eh doon na lang siguro tayo sa Buy & Sell. Nick and other mods, hinihintay namin ang inyong kasagutan.

[nick]

Sorry, we haven't had time to do this. We'll file this is our "Things To Do" list. In the meantime, please use the ordinary Buy & Sell section, which, though not sophisticated at all, will do for simple selling.

[crispee]

Thank you for considering to file this matter Nick. At last we got your awaited answer. So now i can sleep well:)

Till next time.

[midnight]

i like the idea u gave Crispee & i will support it :wave:

[amy_neri]

...Ebay.com. Actually, there's ebay philippines (ebay.ph). in case the moderators are interested to push through with this suggestion, i think it'd be good to check out ebay for ideas. i purchased something through it last December. It was okay.

[ahccofharyne]

Obserbasyon ko lang sa mga kailangan sa auctions:

1/ May mga kailangang gawin na safety measures, halimbawa papaano maiiwasan ang bid rigging o tsuriage rakusatsu. Pwede kaseng magkaroon ng 'fake' bidders, to show that bids are coming and to jack the price up. This is one of the biggest challenges of online bidding.

Mas simple yong "selling section" where the seller sell for the price he/she wants.

2/ Ganon din, kailangan ng system kung papaano magkakaroon ng reputation yong sellers at buyers, although for the long TF residents and those who met personally already can account for that.

My 2 yen thoughts.

2nd dmotion po.

[adechan]

TF AUCTION?

manong crispee support po ako sa suggestion mo magandang idea ....

[piNkAhOLiC]

I think there should be a seller registration (personal info with full name, address, contact # & other useful info) para maiwasan ang mga manloloko. :)

the mods might have no control over the purchases and transactions people make with the sellers. TF will just be the medium through which sellers will conduct their business, and i think TF wouldn't handle these transactions at all, so sana only registered sellers should be able to sell their products in this category.

just my 2 cents;)

[makulit]

it will be good kung magkaroon ng auction.

maraming apsect na dapat i-consider bago magkaroon ng Auction system ang TF.
i think it will be too much for Mr Nick and Mr Paul to handle. It will require a great
deal of their time creating a system. hindi ko alam kung may free auction system :) meron nga ba?

kumusta kaya ang security? to make an auction work, one must be a member
a paying member. bidders have to pay too.

ilang % kaya ng TF members who will actually sell and bid? ano ang guidelines? how
to promote TF Auctions to make more traffic and eventually become the first english
auction site in japan (first nga ba)? meron na bang ibang english auction site dito?

just my thoughts po.