Mga Pilipinong nasa management positions 管理職 kanrishoku

[d_southpaw]

Ito pa ang isang bagay na posibleng may maibigay na value sa atin, in terms of understanding our (Filipinos) awareness in general as far as ambitions and efforts in our work or in business world are concerned.

Knowing the trend of how many of our kababayans are excelling in their own field of expertise and climbing up the corporate ladder, will give us a picture kung napakakonti ba ng mga umaangat, o competitive naman ba pala tayo in general. And hopefully will lead us to ask the question WHY, and perhaps HOW we can fare better.

Anybody you know anyone ? Specially those who can handle anybody, not only Filipinos, as subordinates.

I will start:

1/ one senior sales manager (honbucho) in an IT related business. perhaps with 5-7 Japanese salesmen under his management

2/ one manager (kacho), that was a few years back, so could be in higher position by now. I guess his subordinates are also mainly Japanese.

3/ isang VP sa isang US megabank, na wala na rito sa Japan ngayon

4/ higher officers of PNB and Metrobank here in Tokyo. Marami silang Filipino staffs at may 1-2 Japanese staffs siguro

Two others I know but they handle Filipinos only.

5/ isang head ng team sa construction (Filipino workers)

6/ isang head ng kitchen (Filipino workers)

[Dkid]

Ito pa ang isang bagay na posibleng may maibigay na value sa atin, in terms of understanding our (Filipinos) awareness in general as far as ambitions and efforts in our work or in business world are concerned.

Knowing the trend of how many of our kababayans are excelling in their own field of expertise and climbing up the corporate ladder, will give us a picture kung napakakonti ba ng mga umaangat, o competitive naman ba pala tayo in general. And hopefully will lead us to ask the question WHY, and perhaps HOW we can fare better.

Anybody you know anyone ? Specially those who can handle anybody, not only Filipinos, as subordinates.

I will start:

1/ one senior sales manager (honbucho) in an IT related business. perhaps with 5-7 Japanese salesmen under his management

2/ one manager (kacho), that was a few years back, so could be in higher position by now. I guess his subordinates are also mainly Japanese.

3/ isang VP sa isang US megabank, na wala na rito sa Japan ngayon

4/ higher officers of PNB and Metrobank here in Tokyo. Marami silang Filipino staffs at may 1-2 Japanese staffs siguro

Two others I know but they handle Filipinos only.

5/ isang head ng team sa construction (Filipino workers)

6/ isang head ng kitchen (Filipino workers)

7/ plant manager (工場長)　in a semiconductor manufacturing company with japanese and filipino staff

[d_southpaw]

7/ plant manager (工場長)　in a semiconductor manufacturing company with japanese and filipino staff

Salamat sa post dkid.

Kakaunti lang ano. Considering the number of Filipinos here in Japan. Meron pa sigurong ilan, particularly those companies directly hiring engineers from the Philippines. Sa grupo ng mga Pilipinong engineers, may nagiging head nong team na Pilipino rin.

Bakit kaya napakakonti. Nasa IT industry ako, may mga interactions kami with customers at hindi surprising na maka-meet ng mga Americans, Europeans, Indians, Korean at Chinese na may mga position.

Totoo kaya yong impression ko na mababa ang pangarap nating mga Pilipino pag in-average natin, kumpara sa ibang nasyon. Ang karaniwan na naririnig ko, magkatrabaho lang tama na.

This will also mean that we are spending a lot less effort than other nationals because our goal is lower. Pag gusto ng isang taong umangat, it is a MUST na mas marami siyang efforts na ii-spend compared to the people he/she is competing with, or the people that he/she will have to manage.

[TR250]

Heto na naman si ako... Dati nung mekaniko pa ako ay ilang Hapon mekaniko din ang na under sa akin kaya lang ay parati akong "ipiki okami" kaya inis ako pag may bubuntot-buntot sa akin. Alam din ng kompanya na ayaw ko ng may under lalu nat pag baguhan at di experienced at mabagal sa trabaho kaya tinigilan na rin nila akong pasahan ng apprentice. Ilang maliit na car company at bike shops ang nag offer sa akin na maging head ng mechanic o service department nila (koba chyo), isang grupo (Ys) ang nag alok sa akin ng mataas na posisyon sa export department, dalawang car company na pag-aari ng katropa ang nag offer sa akin ng no.2 position, pero "ipiki okami" ako at ayaw ko ng no.2 :D

[Raiden]

Anybody you know anyone ? Specially those who can handle anybody, not only Filipinos, as subordinates.

In the semiconductor company that I work for here in Silicon Valley, The VP of Quality Systems is a Pinoy. He handles all the QA departments of our company around the world.
So American, German, Israeli, Taiwanese, Chinese, and Filipino directors and managers are his subordinates. He has a PhD in... I believe it's in Physics.

By the way, he chose to live in the Philippines, instead of moving over here, so that he could manage his own businesses over there. He works in our company every 2 weeks per month, then go back to the facility in the Philippines to do some more work. Very busy guy. The company is the one who spend for his air fares. I don't know why, they probably think that it's worth it with respect to the work that he does for the company.

Very organized guy, if you look in his office, everything is in its proper place. Sure he is strict, but very down to earth as well. Grabe, wala akong masabi, I look up to him, and always do my best to be like him someday.

Yan ang PINOY!!! :cool:

[d_southpaw]

Good to hear that Raiden. Sa mga American companies, lalo na yong may manufacturing, development o R&D divisions sa Pilipinas, meron nga siguro na nasa matataas na posisyon.
Which is good. Sana dumami pa. Dyan sa US siguro medyo maraming umaangat sa companies, ilan na ba naman kase ang population ng Filipinos dyan. 1 to 2 M ? (I'm not researching about it obviously :).

Impression ko lang. Siguro on the average kakakunti, gaya ng nabanggit ko early in this thread. Mas lalong kakaunti dito sa Japan, dahil may iba pang requirements don sa natutunan natin sa Pilipinas. Panibagong language at kultura halimbawa, panibagong business practices.

May kilala ako dyan sa US, very good technical person, ino-operan ng management position, hindi niya tinatanggap. Meron din akong isang alam dito sa Japan, ganon din. Nothing to be based upon to speak in general terms, but it is possible that the reason for not accepting the management position is due to low aspirations. We would rather stay in our comfort zones than take another path which could accelerate our carerer growth.

[Dkid]

Salamat sa post dkid.

Kakaunti lang ano. Considering the number of Filipinos here in Japan.
Totoo kaya yong impression ko na mababa ang pangarap nating mga Pilipino pag in-average natin, kumpara sa ibang nasyon. Ang karaniwan na naririnig ko, magkatrabaho lang tama na.


I have an affirmative opinion about the above impression, considering it in general term. Though this may not be the reason why there are only few Filipinos here in Japan to have landed the higher echelon ladder. A country as homogenous as Japan, may not be ready to be governed by some unproven “gaijin”, much as if such a person comes from a third world country. With the advent of the globalization trend, Japan is seen to have blended into that direction. But globalization is still at its infancy, when it comes to a stable status, and all infrastructures established, I am quite optimistic that there comes a time when Filipinos are aplenty leading big corporations. Filipinos are a paragon of virtues! One thing unique to us Filipinos is our ability to easily blend in almost any environment we may encounter. Filipinos are quick in figuring out things to its proper perspective. I think each of us may have been in a situation, where we can see ourselves better than the one who is leading us. Filipino managerial potentials may not have been seen by some, probably because of some unfounded surmises. Yes we can excel, and has the ability to sustain it, because of our happy traits, and strong family ties which may help us keep going sans a stressful environment.

My only apprehension to Filipino managerial wits, which may draw a negative impact, is the Filipino trait of avoiding accountability. We may have established a very strong parity principle of responsibility and authority, but I found it weak in the accountability principle. If we can go over it, I firmly believed that Filipinos will make a good manager.

And by way, about the Filipino attitude of “magkatrabaho lang tama na”, there is also a gold mine underneath. For it they have clearly defined their goal. For stability and happiness is attained at a certain visible line. On the other hand, seeking excellence may stress out ones limited ability, it may be infinite.

[d_southpaw]

I have an affirmative opinion about the above impression, considering it in general term. Though this may not be the reason why there are only few Filipinos here in Japan to have landed the higher echelon ladder. A country as homogenous as Japan, may not be ready to be governed by some unproven “gaijin”, much as if such a person comes from a third world country.

I believe it is one of the reasons, and the reason you mention is, too. The language and difference in culture are I think part of the reasons also. As in actual very very few Filipino managers that we listed, the Japanese are also willing to work under Filipinos. Mas mataas lang siguro yong hurdle na kailangan lampasan, bago nila tanggapin ang isang Pilipino bilang manager nila.

And by way, about the Filipino attitude of “magkatrabaho lang tama na”, there is also a gold mine underneath. For it they have clearly defined their goal. For stability and happiness is attained at a certain visible line. On the other hand, seeking excellence may stress out ones limited ability, it may be infinite.

I do not disagree with that. But there is also another side of the coin in that case. If someone is by nature capable of attaining and delivering say a level 10 (very high lets say) performance, but the current job just requires 5, a person will tend to stay delivering 5, on a daily basis.
I think happiness can also be found from knowing that he/she always deliver the best on a daily basis.

[Firipinjin]

If I am not mistaken, the current IT Manager for J&J Japan is a Pinoy.

[Tonyang]

Dsouthpaw, marami tayong bigatin na mga Pinoy sa investment world:

1. head ng structured finance sa Commerzbank
2. vice president at isang senior vice president sa Citigroup
3. vice presdient sa team leader sa Morgan Stanley
4. vice president sa Lehmann
5. executive director sa UBS-Japan
6. managing consultant sa PWC-Japan
7. IT manager sa RBS
at marami pang iba

at mayroon ding Pinoy na isang principal ngayon sa isang international school, director ng UN Stat office sa Tokyo, senior officer sa UNU at I am sure marami pang iba.

[d_southpaw]

Dsouthpaw, marami tayong bigatin na mga Pinoy sa investment world:

1. head ng structured finance sa Commerzbank
2. vice president at isang senior vice president sa Citigroup
3. vice presdient sa team leader sa Morgan Stanley
4. vice president sa Lehmann
5. executive director sa UBS-Japan
6. managing consultant sa PWC-Japan
7. IT manager sa RBS
at marami pang iba

at mayroon ding Pinoy na isang principal ngayon sa isang international school, director ng UN Stat office sa Tokyo, senior officer sa UNU at I am sure marami pang iba.

Meron nga sa Financial sector, particularly sa mga gaishikei, katulad ng mga binanggit mo.

I-clarify ko lang, meron kase akong na-encounter dati. Ang mga titles na 'vice president'
at 'senior vice president' sa ilang foreign financial firms does not necessarily equate to the typical 副社長 position ng ibang companies, right?

I had two customers from gaishikei kinyuu who came over for technical discussions. They have got such titles, but we were discussing so much technical details. I kept on wondering why would VPs have to take care of such highly techie issues. A good while after that, I learned from a friend that someone in the technical section responsible for certain mission critical systems/applications can get that title.