Philippine Embassy Tokyo...anu masasabi nyo???

[Altairess28]

Nagpunta kasi me sa embahada naten, grabe nakakainis talaga sya. Ang mga staff bastos sumagot, hindi ngumingiti, nagdadabog, lagi pa wala sa window at etc etc....:mad:
Hangang Japan ba naman ganun pa rin processo nila, pahirapan ang Pinoy.:( Ang baho pa sa loob tapos ang dumi dumi wla pang aircon at ang dami pang tambay sa labas. kayo? anu massabi nyo???:confused:

[makulit]

Ako din nanggaling ako sa embassy kanina para kumuha ng visa ng anak ko. May AC naman sila sis, yung lang sa dami ng tao, mainit sa loob. sa totoo lang maliit kasi ang office ng embassy natin, parang ang laki naman ng building nila pero masyadong maliit ang space na ini-allot nila para sa consular office. sangkatutak ang tao , siksikan at walang maupuan :(

Minsan hindi mo sila masisi na medyo nasusungitan ang kababayan. Minsan talaga ang hirap kasing umintindi e pareho naman tagalog ang lengwahe. May mga sinabihan na kulang ang papel mo, ixerox mo ito, at ito, at ito pa. isang kopya lang. bumalik ulit, pero hindi na naman nakopya. parehong papel pa rin. tapos tatanungin, ah kokopyahin ko ba yan? ilang kopya? alam mo yon, syempre naiinis din sila.

Tungkol naman doon sa tambay sa labas, hay, dapat hindi sila nagpupunta doon. Ilang embassy na napuntahan ko dito sa Japan, one and only talaga ...

May nagabot nga pala sa akin ng envelope, donation daw para simbahan. Magbigay na daw ako doon mukhang mayaman naman daw ako :eek: sabi ko naman dalhin ko na lang sa bahay at ipapadala ko na lang sa church nila, hindi naman pumayag. sa susunod na lang daw ...

[Tarena314]

Marami na ring beses ako nakapunta sa Embahada natin sa TOKYO ,pero wala namang naging problema ..,Ang pansin ko lang marami talagang tao at may kanya -kanyang nilalakad na mga papeles at yun nga marami ring saling pusa don sa labas..,sari-sari ang ibinibenta may international card at may nanghihingi nga ng donation...,basta inaayos ko lang yung dapat kung ayusin at umuwi na rin kami....,ang paniwala ko at ayon na rin sa aking karanasan pag marunong kang makipag usap ng maayos at magalang ka ding nagtatanong ng mga bagay na hindi mo talaga alam nagtuturo naman sila ng maayos...,nasasayo ang ikagagaan ng lahat ...,at pansin ko din yung iba nating mga kababayan na nagpupunta don ay may pagka arogante eh..,kulang na lang itanong don sa STAFF na magkano ka ba..,?kulang na yung papel na dala nya..,hindi pa marunong sumunod sa instructions ay sya pang may ganang mag-ingay don sa loob at ang sumbong pa don sa kasamang asawang hapon ay tanga daw yung STAFF ,hindi daw nakakaintindi,,,, eh samantalang sya yung may deperensya ....,tsk...tsk..., kung ako nga ang staff talagang matatarayan ko yun at talagang manigas sya sa labas ng kahihintay....,:(ang sakin kung alam naman natin na maraming kapintasan ang serbisyo ng mga ahensya ng ating gobyerno.., kailangan lang naman don ay marunong tayong makisama o marunong tayong kumuha ng kanilang kiliti kung saan natin sila mapapalambot......,A ko nga kahit inis na inis ako at gusto ko ng manakal talagang pigil ko yung damdaming ganon kase alam kung mas lalong mapapabagal ang lahat at baka mauwi pa lalo sa wala..,kase ako yung may kailangan sa kanila kaya ayaw kung masira ang lahat.....,ngiti pa rin ako at pakikisama ...,kase ang iniisip ko walang matigas na tinapay sa mainit na kape.....,:)

[dalajoey]

@Altairess28

(Don't get offended by this. Just wanna share with you something.
You having a bad day at the embassy, I think was caused by you.
Don't get me wrong, I have many faults in my life too)

I have read the "7 Habits of Highly Effective People" book by Steven Covey.
Attended some seminars about 7 Habits, as well. One of the things that influenced me is the 90/10 Principle. What is it?


According to Dr. Covey, 10% of life is made up of what happens to you;
90% is decided by how you react. It means we have no control over 10%
of what happens to us. For instance, we cannot stop the train from
arriving late, which throws our schedule off. We can stop the people
at the embassy for being noisy, lazy ;)
We cannot control the fact that the embassy smells bad, lots of garbage,
and have no aircon (honestly, I think there's an aircon, and maybe
it's our garbage ;)


We can control the other 90% however, by our reaction.

It's HABIT No.1: Don't be reactive, be PROACTIVE.

--------
Anyways, kindly read on this classic example. I'm sure this will help
you change your perceptions on some things. It's not that long and
I think it's worth it.

-----------------

You are eating breakfast with your family. Your daughter knocks over a cup
of coffee onto your business shirt. You have no control over what has just
happened. What happens next will be determined by how you react. You curse.
You harshly scold your daughter for knocking the cup over. She breaks down
in tears. After scolding her, you turn to your spouse and criticize her for
placing the cup too close to the edge of the table.
A short verbal battle follows. you storm upstairs and change your shirt.
Back downstairs, you find your daughter has been too busy crying to finish
breakfast and get ready for school. She misses the bus.Your spouse must
leave immediately for work. You rush to the car and drive your daughter to
school. Because you are late, you drive 40 miles an hour in a 30 mph speed
limit. After a 15-minute delay and throwing $60 (traffic fine) away, you
arrive at school.
Your daughter runs into the building without saying goodbye.
After arriving at the office 20 minutes late, you find you forgot your
briefcase. Your day has started terrible. As it continues, it seems to get
worse and worse. You look forward to coming home. When you arrive home, you
find small wedge in your relationship with your spouse and daughter.
Why?

Because of your reaction that morning. Why did you have a bad day?

A) Did the coffee cause it?
B) Did your daughter cause it?
C) Did the policeman cause it?
D) Did you cause it?

The answer is D.

You had no control over what happened with the coffee. How you reacted in
those 5 seconds is what caused your bad day.

Here is what could have been done and should have happened. Coffee splashes
over you. Your daughter is about to cry. You gently say, “It’s OK honey,
you just need to be more careful next time.” Grabbing a towel you rush
upstairs. After pulling out a new shirt and your briefcase, you come back
down in time to look through the window and see your child getting on the
bus. She turns and waves. You and your spouse kiss before you go to work.

You arrive 5 minutes early and cheerfully greet the staff.

Notice the difference?

Two different scenarios.
Both started the same.
Both ended different.

Why?

Because of how you REACTED.

Apply the 90/10 principle. It will change your life - at least the way you
react to situations.


Nagpunta kasi me sa embahada naten, grabe nakakainis talaga sya. Ang mga staff bastos sumagot, hindi ngumingiti, nagdadabog, lagi pa wala sa window at etc etc....:mad:
Hangang Japan ba naman ganun pa rin processo nila, pahirapan ang Pinoy.:( Ang baho pa sa loob tapos ang dumi dumi wla pang aircon at ang dami pang tambay sa labas. kayo? anu massabi nyo???:confused:

[csbaby]

kanina po first time kong pumunta sa PHILIPPINE EMBASSY sa Ropponggi.maaga akong nagpunta dun.sa akin po wala naman po akong masasabi sa mga Staff dun pinasa ko yong papel at binigyan ako n schedule ayun tapos na po.sabay uwi na no hassle.:)

[megami704]

ANg masasabi ko lang ay parang nasa Pilipinas ka, walang system at maingay kaya marami nag-iira ira. Kailangan pa pumila. Bakit di na lang kaya yung kukuha ka ng number para hindi ganun ka-sikip sa daan. Kasi kawawa yung iba na pumipila ng matagal tapos pag turn na nya, sakto naman na lunch break, nasasaraduhan ng window:mad: Syempre maglulunch ka din dahil sa pagod sa pila tapos pagdating mo, pipila ka na naman dahil 12pm palang may pumipila na talaga.

[zhedrick]

@Altairess28

(Don't get offended by this. Just wanna share with you something.
You having a bad day at the embassy, I think was caused by you.
Don't get me wrong, I have many faults in my life too)

I have read the "7 Habits of Highly Effective People" book by Steven Covey.
Attended some seminars about 7 Habits, as well. One of the things that influenced me is the 90/10 Principle. What is it?


According to Dr. Covey, 10% of life is made up of what happens to you;
90% is decided by how you react. It means we have no control over 10%
of what happens to us. For instance, we cannot stop the train from
arriving late, which throws our schedule off. We can stop the people
at the embassy for being noisy, lazy ;)
We cannot control the fact that the embassy smells bad, lots of garbage,
and have no aircon (honestly, I think there's an aircon, and maybe
it's our garbage ;)


We can control the other 90% however, by our reaction.

It's HABIT No.1: Don't be reactive, be PROACTIVE.

--------
Anyways, kindly read on this classic example. I'm sure this will help
you change your perceptions on some things. It's not that long and
I think it's worth it.

-----------------

You are eating breakfast with your family. Your daughter knocks over a cup
of coffee onto your business shirt. You have no control over what has just
happened. What happens next will be determined by how you react. You curse.
You harshly scold your daughter for knocking the cup over. She breaks down
in tears. After scolding her, you turn to your spouse and criticize her for
placing the cup too close to the edge of the table.
A short verbal battle follows. you storm upstairs and change your shirt.
Back downstairs, you find your daughter has been too busy crying to finish
breakfast and get ready for school. She misses the bus.Your spouse must
leave immediately for work. You rush to the car and drive your daughter to
school. Because you are late, you drive 40 miles an hour in a 30 mph speed
limit. After a 15-minute delay and throwing $60 (traffic fine) away, you
arrive at school.
Your daughter runs into the building without saying goodbye.
After arriving at the office 20 minutes late, you find you forgot your
briefcase. Your day has started terrible. As it continues, it seems to get
worse and worse. You look forward to coming home. When you arrive home, you
find small wedge in your relationship with your spouse and daughter.
Why?

Because of your reaction that morning. Why did you have a bad day?

A) Did the coffee cause it?
B) Did your daughter cause it?
C) Did the policeman cause it?
D) Did you cause it?

The answer is D.

You had no control over what happened with the coffee. How you reacted in
those 5 seconds is what caused your bad day.

Here is what could have been done and should have happened. Coffee splashes
over you. Your daughter is about to cry. You gently say, “It’s OK honey,
you just need to be more careful next time.” Grabbing a towel you rush
upstairs. After pulling out a new shirt and your briefcase, you come back
down in time to look through the window and see your child getting on the
bus. She turns and waves. You and your spouse kiss before you go to work.

You arrive 5 minutes early and cheerfully greet the staff.

Notice the difference?

Two different scenarios.
Both started the same.
Both ended different.

Why?

Because of how you REACTED.

Apply the 90/10 principle. It will change your life - at least the way you
react to situations.


wow...i agree w/ this...lahat talaga mag-iistart on how we re-act on a certain things or situation...but really sometimes pag nauna ang inis, pintas or galit pangit din ang magiging output nya...:D:D:D.......

eniway share ko din po...last monday lang pumunta kami ng embassy...actually.. nakakadismaya parin talaga kc untill now wala parin nagbago dun since d last tym na pumunta kami mga yr.2002 ata yun....magulo parin at walang maayos na pila...cguro nga dahil sa tao na di marunong sumunod sa policy...at d maka-intindi at paulit-ulit nalang ang tanong at mga taong nagpipit ng sakanila..kaya lalong gumugulo..sabayan pa ng sirang copy machine at maiinit na aircon...wahahaha kakaloka talaga at maliit na place...well d naman lahat masisisi sa embahada yun kc may share din tau...kaya lang sana umpisahan ng embahada ang total change...para d puro pintas abutin nila at tau nadin as a filipino citezen diba.....:D...share lang po

[Iro_otoko13]

@Altairess28

(Don't get offended by this. Just wanna share with you something.
You having a bad day at the embassy, I think was caused by you.
Don't get me wrong, I have many faults in my life too)

I have read the "7 Habits of Highly Effective People" book by Steven Covey.
Attended some seminars about 7 Habits, as well. One of the things that influenced me is the 90/10 Principle. What is it?


According to Dr. Covey, 10% of life is made up of what happens to you;
90% is decided by how you react. It means we have no control over 10%
of what happens to us. For instance, we cannot stop the train from
arriving late, which throws our schedule off. We can stop the people
at the embassy for being noisy, lazy ;)
We cannot control the fact that the embassy smells bad, lots of garbage,
and have no aircon (honestly, I think there's an aircon, and maybe
it's our garbage ;)


We can control the other 90% however, by our reaction.

It's HABIT No.1: Don't be reactive, be PROACTIVE.

--------
Anyways, kindly read on this classic example. I'm sure this will help
you change your perceptions on some things. It's not that long and
I think it's worth it.

-----------------

You are eating breakfast with your family. Your daughter knocks over a cup
of coffee onto your business shirt. You have no control over what has just
happened. What happens next will be determined by how you react. You curse.
You harshly scold your daughter for knocking the cup over. She breaks down
in tears. After scolding her, you turn to your spouse and criticize her for
placing the cup too close to the edge of the table.
A short verbal battle follows. you storm upstairs and change your shirt.
Back downstairs, you find your daughter has been too busy crying to finish
breakfast and get ready for school. She misses the bus.Your spouse must
leave immediately for work. You rush to the car and drive your daughter to
school. Because you are late, you drive 40 miles an hour in a 30 mph speed
limit. After a 15-minute delay and throwing $60 (traffic fine) away, you
arrive at school.
Your daughter runs into the building without saying goodbye.
After arriving at the office 20 minutes late, you find you forgot your
briefcase. Your day has started terrible. As it continues, it seems to get
worse and worse. You look forward to coming home. When you arrive home, you
find small wedge in your relationship with your spouse and daughter.
Why?

Because of your reaction that morning. Why did you have a bad day?

A) Did the coffee cause it?
B) Did your daughter cause it?
C) Did the policeman cause it?
D) Did you cause it?

The answer is D.

You had no control over what happened with the coffee. How you reacted in
those 5 seconds is what caused your bad day.

Here is what could have been done and should have happened. Coffee splashes
over you. Your daughter is about to cry. You gently say, “It’s OK honey,
you just need to be more careful next time.” Grabbing a towel you rush
upstairs. After pulling out a new shirt and your briefcase, you come back
down in time to look through the window and see your child getting on the
bus. She turns and waves. You and your spouse kiss before you go to work.

You arrive 5 minutes early and cheerfully greet the staff.

Notice the difference?

Two different scenarios.
Both started the same.
Both ended different.

Why?

Because of how you REACTED.

Apply the 90/10 principle. It will change your life - at least the way you
react to situations.

Wow nice. love this principle!! I could practice this with my Family and Circle of friends. Pero sa case sa Philippine Embassy dapat yung mga empleyado ang magppractice nito. Hindi dapat magpakita ng pagkainis ang mga empleyado sa constumer kahit ano pa sobrang malademonyo ang costumer na sobrang madalang lang naman siguro. Dapat maging good example ang mga Consul natin.

[navy_wife]

Salamat at may nauna ng thread na ito, kagagaling lang namin kahapon sa Philippine embassy at talagang mag-oopen sana ako ng thread din. Sobrang pasensyoso akong tao at marunong umintindi na napapagod din yung mga staff kasi kung tutuusin iilan lang din naman yung nagwowork doon. Pero kahapon talaga nawalan na ako ng pasensya, di naman ako naghuramentado or nang-away pero sobrang frustrated & disappointed lang ako.

In any circumstance naman kasi, it is an action-reaction thing.
Kung tayong mga citizens who are applying for services get frustrated, Im quite sure na yung mga staff din ay may mga frustrations din sila.

disorganize na sistema ng pagpila - siksikan sa window yung mga tao kasi nag-uunahan, sana kung binibigyan na lang number para tawagin na lang
incomplete documents pagpunta sa window - although may clear na instructions and requirements na nakalista sa website at mayron ding binibigay sa embassy bago pumasok, dapat din sanang intindihin ng ibang staff na hindi lahat ng nag-aapply ay kasing educated nila or even educated, minsan talaga kailangan ding iexplain sa mga nag-aapply.
pabalik-balik na applicants and inconsistencies sa instruction ng staff - sana naman po yung ibinibigay na instructions ng staff ay clear and consistent kasi kawawa naman yung aplikante gaya ng kasabay ko kahapon galing pa ng probinsya pa daw 2 beses na bumalik kasi iba-ibang version ang binibigay sa kanya ng staff, kasi di lahat ng oras ay the same ang nag-aassist sa yo. Suggestion ko, mag-ask ng written na kulang na requirements from the staff at papirmahan sa kanya.Isa pa pala, nakita ko kasi laging nagmamadali yung mga staff minsan instead of quality service ang ibinibigay mas feeling ko ginugusto nilang quantity of service. Kaya marami nga nasiserbisyuhan, di naman completely satisfied yung applicant.

Sana din habaan din ng pasensya nung mga staff, kasi sobrang effort, time and money din yung spent ng mga tao. Yung nanotice ko sa mga nasundan ko flip lang ng staff yung papers ng tao, pag may nakitang mali isinosoli kaagad di man lang iniexplain dun sa tao kung bakit at sana kumpletuhin na lang pag verify ng papers para yung tao, isang balik na lang sa pila. haaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy yyy...

Isa pa pala, yung inaapply ko pala reports of birth & marriage lang naman, bakit pinabayad pa ako ng translations eh lahat ng papers ko na submitted were all in English and ang hinihingi kong papers are all in English din:confused:.Tanong lang po...hehehe...di naman ako nagrereklamo, thankful na lang ako natapos ko na.

Haaaaayyyyyyyyy....s ana may kuntin improvement naman sa system next time na bumalik ako, kasi nakakalungkot....yun g same documents na inaply ko sa US embassy, inabot lang ako ng 1.5 hours, sa Philippine Embassy 1 buong araw inabot namin. Wawa baby ko, diaper na lang suot suot sa loob kasi sobrang init din po, eh nung pinapasok ako ng isang staff dun sa parang isang office, susko sobrang lamig sa loob....haaaaaaaaaaa aayyyyyyyyyyy ulit.....