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v_wrangler
04-07-2006, 02:13 PM
http://www.asahi.com/english/Herald-asahi/TKY200604070156.html

In another controversial plan, the Justice Ministry will use electronic maps to locate foreigners believed to be staying here illegally, as well as businesses that have hired illegal workers, sources said.
...An estimated 193,000 foreigners were living in Japan illegally in January this year. The ministry receives about 16,000 pieces of information annually via e-mail, letters and telephone calls about suspicious foreigners, ministry officials said. In addition, about 19,000 foreigners around the nation in 2004 registered their names and addresses with city, town and village offices, although they did not have proper visas. Ministry officials said many register because registry as a foreigner is needed as a form of ID to open bank accounts or buy cellphones.

Tonyang
04-08-2006, 09:46 AM
Pag ganyan, kailangan ng data-matching... anu-ano kayang data mayroon na ang Justice Ministry. Sana makaipon na ang mga kababayan nating maaapektuhan nito para di sila masyadong mahirapan.

Yujin
04-08-2006, 10:59 AM
Criticism had already been lodged against the plan, much like the Justice Ministry's system set up in 2004 of having the public send e-mail information about foreigners who seem to be living in the country illegally. The Japan Federation of Bar Associations has criticized the e-mail tip-off system for encouraging citizens to betray their neighbors.


Here is the link to the page wherein u can report anything about (違反者 - ihansha) foreigners. Kunwari ay 情報受付 jouhouketsuke na page ito un pala ay way na para makakuha sila ng info about illegal staying foreigners . I dunno kung gaano naging ka effective ito sa pagbawas ng mga OS atbp. I also notice na walang English version ang page na ito probably to lessen criticism like that written in the article

http://www.immi-moj.go.jp/cgi-bin/datainput.cgi  (its in japanese)

In my line of work, i handle tons of individual/private information, Our company strictly abide by the newly passed law that is 個人情報保護 法 kojinjouhou hogo. Then all of a sudden makakabasa ka ng mga bagong patakaran/pamamaraan nila na kagaya nito na mukhang nag thwart sa nabanngit na law nila and
in addition hindi ko sure kung ano tlaga ang main objective nila dito, ito ba ay :
1. To "majime ni" put up a more effective method of locating immigration law offenders.
or 2. "Tada" to satisfy their appetite for new tech-innovation "made in japan"

I am a fan of new-tech. / improvements such as this but i think in this case
I will PASS

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v_wrangler
04-08-2006, 11:49 AM
Not sure if the site Yujin posted is part of the foreigner snitching website the MOJ set upped years ago. It was scrapped due to complaints of possible human rights violations. To answer Tonyang, and based on the report above, many foreigners even without visas (this was discussed as well a few months ago - I don't remember whether it was Taki or somebody else) register at the cityhall. I guess they'd gather datas from there too.

Tonyang
04-08-2006, 09:18 PM
I see V_Wrangler. That's less than 10% of the entire population of OS, I would say. There must be hints from fixed sources such that patterns could be traced. What could these be? Let's investigate. How about interview with apartment owners? Is this a possibility?

puting tainga
04-09-2006, 10:27 PM
Japan being a virtual 52nd state of USA, I believe lenient measures for bilogs will take place in near future here in Japan, following the USA.
Reports of recent US Senate negotiations on this issue are very important to read.

However, it also means registering everybody, and people who are not registered will immediately be considered to be a possible terrorist.

Back to the original question, I am in favor of using any high-tech to catch criminals or potential criminals.
I hate the word "selective enforcement", meaning, for example, only a few unlucky illegally parked cars are billed. And the police would say "we don' t have to arrest 'em all."

Whether poverty or family situations can be considered for lenient measures or not is a different matter. (Maybe I can say this because I am not really poor, if not very rich.)

TR250
04-10-2006, 01:43 AM
Japan being a virtual 52nd state of USA, I believe lenient measures for bilogs will take place in near future here in Japan, following the USA.
Reports of recent US Senate negotiations on this issue are very important to read.

However, it also means registering everybody, and people who are not registered will immediately be considered to be a possible terrorist.

Back to the original question, I am in favor of using any high-tech to catch criminals or potential criminals.
I hate the word "selective enforcement", meaning, for example, only a few unlucky illegally parked cars are billed. And the police would say "we don' t have to arrest 'em all."

Whether poverty or family situations can be considered for lenient measures or not is a different matter. (Maybe I can say this because I am not really poor, if not very rich.)

Ako rin ay pabor kung gagamit sila ng high-tech a ano pa man para palakasin ang pag enporsa sa batas. Naniniwala rin ako na ang mali ay mali, ang batas ay batas at walang exempted maging ano pa man ang dahilan.