JESUS-WHO IS HE?

[kaori]

JESUS---WHO IS HE?
Man?
Leader?
Friend?
Teacher?
Liberator?
The Christ?
Christians have seen him as all of these.Who do you think He is?

[Dax]

@kaori
He was those. But next time he will come to judge you and me and everyone else.

[chubby_kulot]

eh sino nga ba si Jesus?

kahit ako..tanong ko rin yan eh..kasi sino ba ang taong buhay pa now na magpapatunay na un mga larawan ni Jesus ay Siya talaga...at diba kasabihan na rin na "to see is to believe.."

un iba religion nga...hindi sila naniniwala sa mga santo santo..at ang iglesia ni kristo wala silang christmas...dahil di sila naniniwalang isisilang daw uli si Jesus...na sa ating mga katoliko ay taon taon ginugunita natin ang pagsilang ni Jesus...

pero ako..kahit na sa picture o sa mga santo ko lang nakilala si Jesus at ang iba pang santo....totoo man o hindi ang mga iyon...para sa akin..ang paniniwala sa puso at kaluluwa ko ay di na magbabago...Siya at ang iba pang mga santo ang aking pananampalatayaan... :sweeties:

[Lapu_lapu]

@kaori
He was those. But next time he will come to judge you and me and everyone else.

Tama po yon. Ang lahat ng katangian na iyon ay nasa sa kanya na.
But let us remember that we only have one god na nagpapatawad sa ating mga kasalanan.


Mathematical Expression:

Isang Panginoon na may tatlong persona .. Tama ba?
(1)^3 = 1

At nagpapatawad sa kasalanan.
1 Cross
+ 3 Nails
--------------
4 Given

Have a solemn and meaningful Lenten season to everyone.

[adechan]

@kaori
He was those. But next time he will come to judge you and me and everyone else.


amen. yes indeed .... the next time, He will come as a Judge.

and we may all pass the qualifications

[puting tainga]

I love this part of a worship song ("As the dear panteth for the water")

"You're my friend and you're my brother, even though you are a king."

[jhunex]

Christianity has incorrectly interpreted some passages from the Book of John as showing that Jesus is God himself. John1:1 says,"In the beginning was the word, and the Word was God." And John 1:10 says,"He was in the world, and the world was made through him, yet the world knew him not."

The "He" in John 1:10 means the first perfect man. God had intended Adam to be that person. Before God created the universe He had a plan, a blueprint: "In the beginning was the blueprint or idea". God built the universe before He could create Adam and Eve. They had to have a home to live in.

Man was the model of the universe. John1:10 says,"The world was made through him and the world knew him not." This means that Adam was the model of creation, but since he fell and lost that position, Jesus became the model because he was the first perfect person. Jesus was the first person to be the incarnation of the word. This is what he meant when he said,"I am in the Father and the Father is in me"(John14:10)
Jesus visibly manifested our invisible God. Jesus was one in heart with God. Therefore to see Jesus is to see the human expression of God. It is like saying a husband and wife are one, but they are seperate people. Jesus did not pre-exist before Adam. Jesus was a man. It is mythology to think Jesus is God himself who dressed up like a man and came as an alien visiting planet earth.

Jesus looked no different from other men. His own brothers saw nothing unusual about him. It was not until after the crucifixion that one of his brothers, James, joined the young cult of Christianity. The disciples of Jesus did not see him as God who had predestined himself to go to the cross, but as their brother, a sinless man who knew God. Jesus said we are to be perfect like him. Paul said we are God's temple and God's spirit dwells in us.

Man's immaturity has led him to defy his heroes. Jesus is not God but is always trying to take us to God:"I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I"(John14:28). Logic and common sense says that Jesus is not God. It is ludicrous to think that Jesus talked to himself when he cried out on the cross:"My God why hast thou forsaken me?"(Matt. 27:46). How could he forsake himself? God forsook Jesus because He couldn't bear to see His son killed. Could you watch your child receive capital punishment? Wouldn't you turn your eyes?

Jesus' mission was to bridge the gap between God and mankind. The Bible says,"For there is one God and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus..."(1Tim. 2:5).
If Jesus were God then he would have a more intimate relationship than we could. We can't really identify with this. To see Jesus as a man does not lower his divinity but makes him a real savior because he is truly one of us.

[fisher]

Each of the two nature of Christ posseses its own natural will and its own natural mode of operation.In spite of the real duality of the wills a moral unity subsisted and subsists,because Christ's human will is,in the most perfect fashion,in harmony with, and in free subordinationto,the Divine will.
Monothelitism was rejected by the Church at the Lateran Synod of the year 649 under pope Martin I,in the Epistola Dogmatica ad Imperatores of Pope Agatho(678-681),and at the Sixth General Council of Constantinople(680-681).The last named completed the Chalcedon decision of Faith,that in Him are also two natural wills and two natural modes of working,unseperated, untransformed,undivi ded,unmixed;and these two natural wills are not opposed to each other,as the impious heretics maintained.
From the dogma that Christ possesses a true human will there emerges as a theological, that Christ human will is free.The libertas contrarietatis,that is, a freedom to choose between good and evil must however,be denied,because He,as a Divine Person, cannot be the subject of sin.Christ expressly distinguishes His human will from the Divine will,which He possess in common with the Father;but at the same time Christ stresses the complete subordination of His human will to His Divine will Mt.26,39;"No as I will but as thou wilt" Luke 22,42:"Not my will but thine will be done" John 6,38: "I came down from heaven(a proof that He is Divine,He is God),not to do my will but the will of Him that sent me".Christ's relationship of obedience with the Heavenly Father,often stressed in Holy Writ,presupposes a human will.The freedom of choice possessed by Christ's human will is expressed in John10,18:"I lay down my life of myself (=freely,voluntarily ),and I have the power to lay it down and I have the power to take it up again."He was offered because it was His own will."Here we see the two wills,the human, which is an affair of the flesh,and the Divine which is the affair of God.The human will,on account of the weakness of the flesh,prays for the aversion of suffering,but the Divine Will welcomes it.Each of the forms operates,in communion with the other,that which is peculiar to it" Peace to all of you and may God bless us all.

[jhunex]

In the fourth century a church leader elder named Arius taught that Jesus was not God himself. His opponents believed that Jesus was god. The controversy became so great throughout the Roman Empire that a council was called to meet in the city of Nicea in May 325 A.D. This was the first time in Christian history that church leaders met.

Constantine presided over the gathering. He asked that the meeting be peaceful but the debate was heated. The secretary to the bishop of Alexander, Athanasius, was the spokeman for those who believed Jesus was God. The council finally sided with Athanasius. But year later Emperor Constantine change his mind and began to favor Arius. But Arius' view were held only temporarily. The view that Jesus is God has unfortunately become remained so till today.
The Arian view has periodically reappeared in history. God was behind those small voices of reason but few heard him. John Milton, the author of 'Paradise Lost', was an Arian. In the 18th century Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, John Adams and Isaac Newton were Arians. In the 19th century Emerson, Thoreau and Longfellow were Unitarians.

In 392 Theodocius I made Christianity the state religion of the Roman Empire. If it required 400 years for Christianity to become the state religion, what if Jesus had been able to lead the early disciples to Rome? In his lifetime, the Roman Empire would have turned to God. Today there would be no religion called Christianity because Jesus would have united the world into one family under God.

Historian have discovered that Jesus was actually born in 4 B.C. 392 from 4 B.C. is 396 years which matches the 400 years of slavery in Egypt within 2 or 3 percent. Just as God sent a liberator, Moses, to the Israelites, God sent the liberator Theodocius to the Christians. Theodocius was flawed like Moses. Moses was not able to enter Canaan because of his mistakes, and Theodocius was not able to keep the Roman Empire as God's central nation.:)

[pc2005it]

In the fourth century a church leader elder named Arius taught that Jesus was not God himself. His opponents believed that Jesus was god. The controversy became so great throughout the Roman Empire that a council was called to meet in the city of Nicea in May 325 A.D. This was the first time in Christian history that church leaders met.


Ang galing naman ng research mo! Saan mo ito nakuha? May kaibigan ka bang INC?
Ang pagkakaalam ko: si Kristo ay Diyos. Pero di naman siguro Sya ang lumikha sa sanlibutan. Mas maganda na ring tawaging Diyos si Hesus tutal Sya lang naman ang bugtong na anak ng Diyos. Naniniwala rin akong Sya ay tao pero hindi makasalanang tulad ko. Idol ko si Hesus. Idol mo rin ba Sya? Sa palagay ko lang, kung hindi lang sana Sya naipako sa krus, baka mas marami pa Syang magagawa at maituturo sa atin. Ano sa palagay nyo? Sa ngayon marami na ring nagsulputang sila raw ang pagbabalik ni Hesus. Kaya, mag-ingat baka mapariwara. At dapat e maging wise tayo sa panahon ngayon.
At kung susundin lang nating mga Kristiyano ang pagmamahal na itinuro sa atin ng Panginoong Hesus, wala sanang alitan ang bawat iba't ibang grupo ng Kristiyano. Minsan nawawala na rin ang trust ko sa Christianity kasi nga imbis na magmahalan sila e nagsisiraan pa at literal na nag-aaway. Nahihirapan na rin siguro si Hesus (bilang pinagsimulan ng Kristiyanismo) sa situation. Sana magmilagro na lang Sya uli na sa isang iglap ay magkabati-bati ang mga Kristiyano. Wish ko lang na sana ay magkatotoo. Gusto nyo rin ba ang milagrong ito o kuntento na lang tayo sa kasalukuyang situation?

[Autumn]

Jesus is a son of god.masyadong mysterious.may mga panahon na nawala sya at walang makapag paliwanag kung nasaan sya noon mga panahon na iyon .bumalik lang in his 30's.in my own opinion.the god himself(our father in heaven) kept all in mystery.so peoples will seek the truth in all time..napaka hirap na assignment para sa tao..kaya maraming away dahil sa religion..aiming na sila ang totoo..nasaan nga ba ang katotohanan.? sa palagay ko walang katapusan katanungan yan...hanggang sa wakas ng mundo na kung kailan..walang nakakaalam

[pc2005it]

Jesus is a son of god.masyadong mysterious.may mga panahon na nawala sya at walang makapag paliwanag kung nasaan sya noon mga panahon na iyon .bumalik lang in his 30's.in my own opinion.the god himself(our father in heaven) kept all in mystery.so peoples will seek the truth in all time..napaka hirap na assignment para sa tao..kaya maraming away dahil sa religion..aiming na sila ang totoo..nasaan nga ba ang katotohanan.? sa palagay ko walang katapusan katanungan yan...hanggang sa wakas ng mundo na kung kailan..walang nakakaalam

Ang sa akin naman: kung handa na ang tao, sasabihin din ng Diyos ang mga misteryong nakapaligid sa bibiliya at sa mga panahong nawala si Hesus. Ang sabi sa banal na aklat: ang mga tao raw na hindi gising, e baka mapagkamalan nilang magnanakaw si Hesus sa pagdating Nya. Kaya hwag "matutulog"... dapat ay bukas lagi ang ating kaisipan at kung hindi e baka matulad tayo sa mga mga taga-Israel noon na dahil sa saradong kaisipan ay ipinako nila si Hesus.

[mOtt_erU]

for me..Simply , Jesus is our Savior.

[Mabango]

Si Jesus is my true God. Ang Bugtong na anak ng Diyos ama. My Lord and my savior. Jesus is God.

Jesus is God. Na nag nagpakababa nagkatawang tao para sa ikatutubos anting lahat.

Filipos 2: 5-9
5Ito ay sapagkat kailangang taglayin ninyo ang kaisipan na na kay Cristo Jesus din naman. 6Bagaman siya ay nasa anyong Diyos, hindi niya itinuring na kailangang pakahawakan ang kaniyang pagiging kapantay ng Diyos. 7Bagkus ginawa niyang walang kabuluhan ang kaniyang sarili at tinanggap niya ang anyo ng isang alipin at nakitulad sa tao. 8Yamang siya ay nasumpungan sa anyong tao, siya ay nagpakumbaba at naging masunurin hanggang sa kamatayan, maging sa kamatayan sa krus.

[sweetscrazy]

para sakin (coming from a Hindu/Buddhist background), tama ang sinabi ni Jhunex about Council of Nicea. All controversies regarding Jesus' nature can be traced to the time of Arius.

Arius (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arius) taught:
"God has not always been Father; there was a moment when he was alone, and was not yet Father: later he became so. The Son is not from eternity; he came from nothing."

in the basic sense, this is similar to the Hindu (http://www.timog.com/forum/showthread.php?t=152 26) belief

IF Jesus was undeniably God Himself, then everyone who has heard of Jesus for the past 2,000 years (including Muslims and Jews) would turn Christian.

But they didn't.