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Aquamarine
04-24-2006, 07:45 PM
Below is a very interesting article about "us", Overseas Filipino Workers, who are working very hard and sacrificing for our family and for our country(?).


http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/la-fg-remit20apr20,0,58951 46,full.story


Excerpt from the article... na lalo akong na-touch at nasaktan... coz im also a nanay na napalayo sa baby ko at his young age.

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"I want to stay with my son," she said. "I want to prepare his breakfast before he goes to school. I want to pack his things. I am a mother, but not really. I haven't been a mother yet."
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"Going abroad has two sides," she said. "The bad side is the separation of the family. The children grow up without a mother's supervision. Sometimes they go astray. The good side is not just the income but the possibility the whole family could go overseas, which is my dream."
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sacrifice.... sacrifice.... sacrifice...

i know many of us rather majority of us are like these people...

HERO... yan daw ang tawag sa mga OFW.. pero kelan sila nasasabing HERO?
pag buhay na nila ang nawala? yan ang laging ginagawa ng government natin...
ang parangalan ang isang OFW kung kelan wala na ito... our country only recognizes
the real HEROES pag may nangyaring hindi maganda or napahamak na ang mga kagaya natin.
dahil dun sumsikat ang mga politicians natin... the nerve! They don't really know how it feels to be away from our loved ones.

Sacod
04-24-2006, 08:20 PM
the author still believed that pinoys in JAPAN are majority working in Piripin PUB

:mohawk:
1. They pour sake for Japanese salarymen
2. A bar singer in Japan can earn more than a Philippine senator
3. I hate this place," said Mary Grace Libao, 13. She and her friend, Clarivel de los Santos, also 13, said they wanted to be singers in Japan.

"In Japan I will make enough money to buy a house for my family," Clarivel said
4. Many young women who go abroad as entertainers end up working in the sex trade.
5. All over Japan, salarymen come to Philippine pubs to escape the tedium and stress of their jobs. They drink sake and sing karaoke with "japayuki," beautiful, scantily clad young women.

In Osaka, the Philippine clubs are concentrated in the crowded Dotonburi district. Many are controlled by Japanese organized crime

6.Large clubs typically stage a brief show in which the women sing a few songs and dance. The rest of the time, they flirt with the customers, pouring sake, feeding them and lighting their cigarettes. They can make more in tips in an evening than they could working for a month as a salesclerk back home. They can make even more if they agree to have sex.

"The customers make offers," said Estrella Pumar, 31, who was heading from Manila to Osaka for her second tour. "It's up to the girls to decide what kind of life to live."

The women live six or seven to a room provided by their employers. If they are lucky, they get a day off every two weeks. Many aspire to marry a Japanese man and secure a residency permit. Having a child in Japan ensures residency status after a divorce, which is how 80% of these marriages end.

7.Wendy, 37, followed her mother to Japan in the 1990s. A brother and sister moved to Los Angeles. She spent 10 years working in pubs before marrying a Japanese man, having a son and opening her own club in Osaka, the Twin Angels.

"It's better to be here than in the Philippines," said Wendy, who declined to give her full name. But someday she'd like to return home and perhaps open a McDonald's. In the meantime, she said, "we have to survive."

PILIPINAS
04-24-2006, 09:31 PM
Pardon me, but I find this article too long and very depressing. It's an enumeration of how misserable life can be in the Phil. That Filipinos have to resort to working abroad, just to survive. And those Filipinos abroad, are being oppresed by the situation because they are only foreingers trying to make a living. Yes, they are true. But don't you find the article bias? I mean, I know a lot of Filipinos who became prosperous by working diligently abroad. Their stories were very inspiring, not depressing. Well, this is just my opinion...:p

Tonyang
04-24-2006, 11:09 PM
the author still believed that pinoys in JAPAN are majority working in Piripin PUB

:mohawk:
1. They pour sake for Japanese salarymen
2. A bar singer in Japan can earn more than a Philippine senator
3. I hate this place," said Mary Grace Libao, 13. She and her friend, Clarivel de los Santos, also 13, said they wanted to be singers in Japan.

"In Japan I will make enough money to buy a house for my family," Clarivel said
4. Many young women who go abroad as entertainers end up working in the sex trade.
5. All over Japan, salarymen come to Philippine pubs to escape the tedium and stress of their jobs. They drink sake and sing karaoke with "japayuki," beautiful, scantily clad young women.

In Osaka, the Philippine clubs are concentrated in the crowded Dotonburi district. Many are controlled by Japanese organized crime

6.Large clubs typically stage a brief show in which the women sing a few songs and dance. The rest of the time, they flirt with the customers, pouring sake, feeding them and lighting their cigarettes. They can make more in tips in an evening than they could working for a month as a salesclerk back home. They can make even more if they agree to have sex.

"The customers make offers," said Estrella Pumar, 31, who was heading from Manila to Osaka for her second tour. "It's up to the girls to decide what kind of life to live."

The women live six or seven to a room provided by their employers. If they are lucky, they get a day off every two weeks. Many aspire to marry a Japanese man and secure a residency permit. Having a child in Japan ensures residency status after a divorce, which is how 80% of these marriages end.

7.Wendy, 37, followed her mother to Japan in the 1990s. A brother and sister moved to Los Angeles. She spent 10 years working in pubs before marrying a Japanese man, having a son and opening her own club in Osaka, the Twin Angels.

"It's better to be here than in the Philippines," said Wendy, who declined to give her full name. But someday she'd like to return home and perhaps open a McDonald's. In the meantime, she said, "we have to survive."


Marami nga tayong pera at makabibili ng kahit anong gusto... pero marami rin tayong social costs at maraming moral damages na nangyari / nangyayari. Ano ang mas matimbang sa atin? Katumbas ng risk ng ating dignidad bilang mga Pilipino ang respeto na nilapastangan na siyang nangingibabaw at nakakabit na sa atin na parang mantsang ang hirap hirap linisin. Napakasakit nito dahil mantsa ito ng iilan lang pero nahawaan tayong lahat... na kahit mga walang kamuwang-muwang, apektado. I am sure karamihan sa mga Pinay rito ay may sariling experience na ma-harass o mapahiya dahil "tayo ay mga Pinay lamang". Kung tingnan tayo sa umpisa ng mga kalalakihang Hapon parang gusto nilang isumbat sa atin "mukhang pera". Masakit kasi di naman lahat ganoon... iyun nga, iilan lang. Haaay buhay! Kailan ba magiging mabango muli ang salitang "Pinay"? Baka puwede nating pagtulungan iyan at nakakapagod na ring mag-prove na di lahat ng Pinay ay ganoon... iangat sana natin ang ating lahi. Grabe na talaga... palagi na lang ba tayong palaban para di tayo apihin? Eto ay sharing ko lang naman bilang isang OFW na Pilipino at isang babae. Two strikes.. Pinoy at babae kaya mas matindi ang discrimination tiyak kahit saang parte ng mundo. Alam na natin siguro kung bakit.

Sacod
04-25-2006, 12:28 AM
it hurts my feeling when seeing our flag hanging outside the PUB.....sometimes i just did close my eyes and try to pretend that my nationality is not a filipino.im ashame though,but this things must be correct.but how can be? while lots of pinays are contended to be a dancer,singer and entertainer in japan......

:nono:

gohan
04-25-2006, 12:55 AM
well said tonyang!!idol kita!:)



hiram ko lang account my husband..

gohan
04-25-2006, 12:55 AM
well said tonyang!!idol kita!:)



hiram ko lang account my husband..

gohan
04-25-2006, 01:02 AM
sori po sir nick na double post ko po!!!gomen:bowdown: :bowdown:

rhiverz
04-25-2006, 12:25 PM
it's really sad that Filipinos are branded like that
and sad to say not all of us working abroad is
lucky enough to succeed in our chosen path

Let's just pray for other filipinos working abroad
for their safety. As what the article exposed,
we really cant avoid to go to other places or countries
to support our family dahil mahirap humanap ng job
sa Pinas even if youve graduated as topnatchers.

mylfer919mdo
04-26-2006, 03:26 PM
it hurts my feeling when seeing our flag hanging outside the PUB.....sometimes i just did close my eyes and try to pretend that my nationality is not a filipino.im ashame though,but this things must be correct.but how can be? while lots of pinays are contended to be a dancer,singer and entertainer in japan......

:nono:
It is really a bad image for all of us, Filipinos in Japan. Lots of Pinays work as a dancer or a singer, and sometimes end up with sex slavery.
Ah,I have never seen a Filipino Flag hanging outside a pub like what you saw Sacod, and if ever I did, I don't know how would I feel and react. Maybe, same as what you have felt, with a little embarrassment.
Whenever I see fellow young Filipinas hanging around with their old Japanese hubby, I feel so sad, awkward.I don't know what I feel.I just don't know how to react.

I,myself has a Japanese husband whom I met at the Univ.of the Philippines in Diliman.He works a a scientist now in RIKEN.And to tell you honestly, whenever I attend banquets or functions with my husband, I somehow feel awkward if they know that I am a Filipina.You know, almost everybody thinks that if you are Filipina who stay in Japan with your Japanese husband, they might presume that you worked as a bar girl or what.
Ah, I do hope that bad brand names to all Pinays in Japan ends eventually...Coz it's really annoying to be branded as that.

mylfer919mdo
04-26-2006, 03:31 PM
It is really a bad image for all of us, Filipinos in Japan. Lots of Pinays work as a dancer or a singer, and sometimes end up with sex slavery.
Ah,I have never seen a Filipino Flag hanging outside a pub like what you saw Sacod, and if ever I did, I don't know how would I feel and react. Maybe, same as what you have felt, with a little embarrassment.
Whenever I see fellow young Filipinas hanging around with their old Japanese hubby, I feel so sad, awkward.I don't know what I feel.I just don't know how to react.

I,myself has a Japanese husband whom I met at the Univ.of the Philippines in Diliman.He works a a scientist now in RIKEN.And to tell you honestly, whenever I attend banquets or functions with my husband, I somehow feel awkward if they know that I am a Filipina.You know, almost everybody thinks that if you are Filipina who stay in Japan with your Japanese husband, they might presume that you worked as a bar girl or what.
Ah, I do hope that bad brand names to all Pinays in Japan ends eventually...Coz it's really annoying to be branded as that.

"A country or state's development, progress or downfall relies solely on the character of the citizen." - ALFRED THAYER MAHAN

lenemen
04-27-2006, 09:52 AM
It is really a bad image for all of us, Filipinos in Japan. Lots of Pinays work as a dancer or a singer, and sometimes end up with sex slavery.
Ah,I have never seen a Filipino Flag hanging outside a pub like what you saw Sacod, and if ever I did, I don't know how would I feel and react. Maybe, same as what you have felt, with a little embarrassment.
Whenever I see fellow young Filipinas hanging around with their old Japanese hubby, I feel so sad, awkward.I don't know what I feel.I just don't know how to react.

I,myself has a Japanese husband whom I met at the Univ.of the Philippines in Diliman.He works a a scientist now in RIKEN.And to tell you honestly, whenever I attend banquets or functions with my husband, I somehow feel awkward if they know that I am a Filipina.You know, almost everybody thinks that if you are Filipina who stay in Japan with your Japanese husband, they might presume that you worked as a bar girl or what.
Ah, I do hope that bad brand names to all Pinays in Japan ends eventually...Coz it's really annoying to be branded as that. Ito ay opinion ko lang naman. Kahanga hanga ang inyong mga kalinisan at karunungan pananaw na ibang iba. Pero paano naman yung mga walang choices at hindi nabigyan ng kapalaran ng mataas na pinag-aralan katulad mo na matalino at nakapag aral pa sa UP (doon mo rin ma meet hubby mo?). Kahit pa ano sabihin o isipin nila sa mga Pinay nasa sa iyo na kung paano mo ipa ramdam sa kanila na iba ka. Lalo pa pala at mga high class society kahalubilo mo nasa iyo ang chances na maipakita mo sa mga ka level ninyo na marami ring professionals na nag aasawa ng Hapon nang sa ganoon ma-i-angat mo standard ng mga Pilipina dito sa Japan. Pero parang nakakalungkot na tayo pa mismo ang nagkakahiya sa ating mga kababayan na nag susumikap lang para mabuhay ang pamilya. Mga entertainers na kinokondena ng mga malilinis at pinagpalang kababayan, sila namay mga bayani ng kanikanilang mga mahal sa buhay. Nag kataon lang na kayo ay pinagpala at sila ay hindi kaya hindi natin dapat ikahiya bagkus ipagtanggol na lang kaya natin sila at kung tayong kapwa mismo nag da -down sa kanila wla na silang kakampi pa. (opinion ka lang po):rolleyes:

mylfer919mdo
04-27-2006, 10:43 AM
.... Pero parang nakakalungkot na tayo pa mismo ang nagkakahiya sa ating mga kababayan na nag susumikap lang para mabuhay ang pamilya. Mga entertainers na kinokondena ng mga malilinis at pinagpalang kababayan, sila namay mga bayani ng kanikanilang mga mahal sa buhay. Nag kataon lang na kayo ay pinagpala at sila ay hindi kaya hindi natin dapat ikahiya bagkus ipagtanggol na lang kaya natin sila at kung tayong kapwa mismo nag da -down sa kanila wla na silang kakampi pa. (opinion ka lang po):rolleyes:

Sa Iyo Lenemen,

Maraming slamat sa opinyon mo.Nais ko lamang sabihin na ang mga sinulat ko ay pawang sagot lamang sa mga nauna ng naisulat ni Sacod.Wala akong nais na ipahiwatig o anumang masamang intensyon sa pagkakasulat ko nito.Wala akong kinokondena na kahit sino o ano pa man batay sa aking nasulat.Ito ay pawang mga saloobin lamang na ngayon ay naglaho na.

Lahat ng mga Pilipino sa bansang Hapon ay pinagpala.Anuman ang dahilan kung bakit tayo nandito.Lahat tayo ay pantay-pantay anuman ang katayuan natin sa buhay.Nais kong malaman mo na tulad mo, ako ay hindi nahihiyang maging Pilipino.Taas noo ako,kahit kanino dahil Pilipinas ang bansa ko.

Muli, maraming salamat sa iyong opinyon.Ikaw ang tunay na kahanga-hanga.Ang iyong isinulat ay nakapgbigay ng inspirasyon na ipakita sa buong mundo, lalo na sa ibang lahi na nandito sa bansang Hapon ang tunay na galing ng isang Pilipino.

Ako ay humihingi ng paumanhin hindi lang sa iyo, kundi sa lahat ng nakabasa ng aking naisulat na saloobin. Mraming salamat.

docomo
04-27-2006, 05:59 PM
...leaving the comfort of being with a loved one to work in some strange far away land will always be like hanging on a cliff with only a doubled-edged sword to hang on to.

you have to hold on to the blade and hang on for dear life. if you're strong enough, you can pull yourself up. if not, you fall off the cliff.

either way, you still get cut.:)

lenemen
04-28-2006, 12:02 PM
:toast: ;) Sa Iyo Lenemen,

Maraming slamat sa opinyon mo.Nais ko lamang sabihin na ang mga sinulat ko ay pawang sagot lamang sa mga nauna ng naisulat ni Sacod.Wala akong nais na ipahiwatig o anumang masamang intensyon sa pagkakasulat ko nito.Wala akong kinokondena na kahit sino o ano pa man batay sa aking nasulat.Ito ay pawang mga saloobin lamang na ngayon ay naglaho na.

Lahat ng mga Pilipino sa bansang Hapon ay pinagpala.Anuman ang dahilan kung bakit tayo nandito.Lahat tayo ay pantay-pantay anuman ang katayuan natin sa buhay.Nais kong malaman mo na tulad mo, ako ay hindi nahihiyang maging Pilipino.Taas noo ako,kahit kanino dahil Pilipinas ang bansa ko.

Muli, maraming salamat sa iyong opinyon.Ikaw ang tunay na kahanga-hanga.Ang iyong isinulat ay nakapgbigay ng inspirasyon na ipakita sa buong mundo, lalo na sa ibang lahi na nandito sa bansang Hapon ang tunay na galing ng isang Pilipino.

Ako ay humihingi ng paumanhin hindi lang sa iyo, kundi sa lahat ng nakabasa ng aking naisulat na saloobin. Mraming salamat. Walang anuman. at lalong walang dapat ihingi ng paumanhin sa akin dahil ako rin ay tulad mo na ipinahayag lamang din ang sariling saloobin and had no intentions to offend you. Sanay dumami ang katulad mo na ipagmalaki ang ating kapwa Pinay dito sa Japan at sa buong mundo, we are the crusaders not only of God but of our own race too. Maraming salamat din.:toast:

mOtt_erU
08-28-2006, 10:29 PM
For me ang mga dasay o corny mang sabihin tayong mga naging OFW`s at pati na iba nateng kababayan ang mga Bagong Bayani,. Kasi we do lots of Sacrifices for our Love ones.Sana matigil na ang pagsStereotype sa mga OFW`s na Pinay na lahat ganito , ganyan ..which is Very Untrue., lahat ng Pinay magkakaiba.

Much LOVE & RESPECT.:)

hayaren
08-29-2006, 10:29 PM
Pardon me, but I find this article too long and very depressing. It's an enumeration of how misserable life can be in the Phil. That Filipinos have to resort to working abroad, just to survive. And those Filipinos abroad, are being oppresed by the situation because they are only foreingers trying to make a living. Yes, they are true. But don't you find the article bias? I mean, I know a lot of Filipinos who became prosperous by working diligently abroad. Their stories were very inspiring, not depressing. Well, this is just my opinion...:p

Hi there Pilipinas san...I do agree with you....hey guys I am talking for the other side of the continent I didn't come here to work in UAE not for the primary reason that life in the Philippines is already in a depressing and hapless state. I earn what I build for my family and for myself in an UPRIGHT manner. How could the thread be so one sided? Hello let's be civilized setting things!:)

hayaren
08-29-2006, 11:04 PM
@mylfer919mdo~~~I,my self has a Japanese husband whom I met at the Univ.of the Philippines in Diliman.He works a a scientist now in RIKEN.And to tell you honestly, whenever I attend banquets or functions with my husband, I somehow feel awkward if they know that I am a Filipina.You know, almost everybody thinks that if you are Filipina who stay in Japan with your Japanese husband, they might presume that you worked as a bar girl or what.
Ah, I do hope that bad brand names to all Pinays in Japan ends eventually...Coz it's really annoying to be branded as that.[/quote]


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In view of the above quote, I too, married to a Japanese national it could have been fate that brought our paths together in UAE, not Japan, not Philippines and not anywhere else. I worked for a multi national firm over here and during my first stopover in Japan, all those people who were invited way before my engagement party was without hesitation confronted my husband and in-laws...a Filipina? When I knew this from my husband and in-laws I was in the brim of crying but I managed to hold it back and set my head up high....I exemplify a dignified Filipina in front of my in laws, their immediate family and most especially to my husband. That's for one reason also, I am hesitant leaving my job over here, I find it suited with my absence from my husband's side to reach out to those people that are not yet informed with my whereabouts what exactly I do for a living.

It's really humiliating to be branded in the same level with the other Filipinas in Japan who are really into that state of affairs, it isn't really heart impressing. I know these Filipinas who are into it are having their own reasons of being in that position but could we just step up to higher grounds?

ibarra
01-01-2007, 12:38 AM
Di naman sa Japan lang nangyayari ang discriminasyon, kahit sa hongkong meron din. It it is up to you to make a difference. You need to earn your respect. If you too will not do it, then why should you expect that others will do. As a Filipinos, we value the love to be respected with the same level but are we too doing it? Say for example, do you respect your maids at home (if you have). Do you treat others with respect knowing that they have lower level than you?

Kung ayaw natin madescriminate, lets start it in our self. Its like, we sometimes say that in Philippines, napaka-corrupt ng gobyerno, ba't pag nahuli ka ng MMDA, tina-try mo aregluhin o bakit para mapabilis pag-aayos ng papeles mo, naglalagay ka. You too are a part of the world that you are leaving with. You must be always accountable to every action that you make. So, you should do your part to change it.

Happy New year..

mbstorun
01-01-2007, 02:28 AM
it hurts my feeling when seeing our flag hanging outside the PUB.....sometimes i just did close my eyes and try to pretend that my nationality is not a filipino.im ashame though,but this things must be correct.but how can be? while lots of pinays are contended to be a dancer,singer and entertainer in japan......

:nono:

i guess some pinays who works in the clubs/bars at dont wanna work outside that area kahit may mga opportunity naman, are not contented of having less salary?..sabi nga ng iba, mabilis daw ang pera sa club kaya siguro?:confused: :p kase meron namang ibang mommy's na...na ayaw na magtrabaho sa club kase yung reputation ng mga anak bah..i mean iba kase ang tingin talaga basta sa club/bar ka nagtatrabaho..kahit ano pang baliktad, di man natin gusto pero kahit sinong tanungin, iba talaga ang tingin ng nagtatrabaho sa club/bar kesa sa labas...Peace out!:p


.................... .WISH YOU ALL A HAPPY 2007.........:p