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striver
05-12-2006, 06:00 PM
there are another revision on the rules(laws) pertaining to all foreigners came here in japan with entertainer visa. kindly check the link below. the new rules will take effect starting on JUNE 1, 2006.

http://www.immi-moj.go.jp/keiziban/happyou/zairyuu.html

with this new rules, talagang mahihirapan ng pumasok ang mga entertainer kahit artista sa atin dito sa japan. the page are written in japanese. i just dont have time to translate it. pabasa nyo na lang sa mga kaibigan nyong marunong ng japanese. i just scan it, and the following is what i find.

entertainer visa can only avail if the applicant passed the requirement below:
1. graduated in a course pertaining to entertaining with a two or more years curriculum
2. have already experienced 2 or more years working abroad in entainment field.

there are other requirements on the link above, kindly read it. :)

pooh_chan
05-12-2006, 06:10 PM
Sori hindi ko po mabasa eh kasi wala yong tiga basa ko....:) pero kung talagang ma-implement po talaga yan, sobrang hirap naman at kawawa naman ang kababayan natin na mga entertainers, pero siguro kailangan na talagang maghigpit dahil sa nangyayari sa bansa nila na almost gaikokujin ang involve..........:)

chubby_kulot
05-12-2006, 06:15 PM
grabe nga..di ko sya mabasa :roll:

pero dun sa paliwanag ni striver.. no.2 ang pasado sa mga kakilala ko na until now eh di pa makabalik dito sa japan bilang entertainer... kasi naman dun sa no.1 kadalasan ang sinasabi ng mga taong makikitid ang utak :shutup: mag aaral ka nga at magtatapos ng kolehiyo..pagpuputa :shutup: lang pala babagsakan..e di wag na mag aral... kaya yan tuloy..
if everpo ba ma-approve ang batas na yan..kahit ba 3rd timer na o mas higit pa ang experience sa pag e-entertainer pero di tapos ng high school..di pa rin po kaya pwedeng makabalik ng japan?

bara
05-12-2006, 06:22 PM
ganun na pala ang magong revision dito sa okazaki,gamagori and bandang toyohashi ang dami ng nagsara na omise yung iba indo,thai,romania and russia jin na pumalit at mura na daw.....yung iba kong kakilala na stock talaga sa pinas mahirap na daw makakuha ng visa as entertainer dito but ang latest daw ay ang puntahan ng mg pinoy entertainers are in shangai and korea but must abonai dun kasi iba ang culture ng chinese and korean.

Yujin
05-12-2006, 06:33 PM
Striver 's post is in line/connection with a previous amendment made effective by Japanese Immigration from March 15 of the previous year (2005)

Here is the link English :
http://www.immi-moj.go.jp/keiziban/happyou/pdf/e_kougyou.pdf

link in japanese :
http://www.immi-moj.go.jp/keiziban/happyou/pdf/kougyou.pdf

maybe this explains why maraming patuloy na nagsasara na mga Phil. Pubs & clubs since last year.
(kelangan meron installed na adobe acrobat para mabuksan) :)

chubby_kulot
05-12-2006, 06:35 PM
@ bara san...

un iba rin sa mga kakilala ko eh..nasa bansang brunei na at italy...tulad ng work nila dati dito sa japan..as entertainer... pero mostly daw eh seaman ang okyaksan nila dun at dollars pa ang tip...pero kung galing na dito sa japan at punta ng ibang bansa para mag entertainer din..parang nakakatakot na...di kaya mas abunai dun sa lugar na un...? saka kung ilang beses ka ng nagpunta ng japan as entertainer..alam mo na kiliti ng hapon..[syempre kilekile nila ...] :shutup: pero sa ibang bansa kaya..ano kaya ang labanan dun... :confused: like tulad ng iba sa atin...nasa tao na lang ang way en kind ng work nila...kung gusto nila kumita ng pera sa mabuti o masamang paraan...choice na nila un :king:

Sacod
05-12-2006, 07:16 PM
buti nga na nag higpit ang immigration ng japan sa mga pinoy na mga entertainer(olala dancers at singers),
mga pinoy na IT,Engineers at Nurses na naman ang papasokin dito.
kung baga CHANGE IMAGE............

:rolleyes:

luvberry
05-12-2006, 07:50 PM
there are another revision on the rules(laws) pertaining to all foreigners came here in japan with entertainer visa. kindly check the link below. the new rules will take effect starting on JUNE 1, 2006.

http://www.immi-moj.go.jp/keiziban/happyou/zairyuu.html

with this new rules, talagang mahihirapan ng pumasok ang mga entertainer kahit artista sa atin dito sa japan. the page are written in japanese. i just dont have time to translate it. pabasa nyo na lang sa mga kaibigan nyong marunong ng japanese. i just scan it, and the following is what i find.

entertainer visa can only avail if the applicant passed the requirement below:
1. graduated in a course pertaining to entertaining with a two or more years curriculum
2. have already experienced 2 or more years working abroad in entainment field.

there are other requirements on the link above, kindly read it. :)




About the amendment of the standard Ministerial ordinance which relates to residency qualification "entertainment"http://www.immi-moj.go.jp/image/back_b.gif (http://babelfish.altavista. com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp =ja_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2fw ww.immi-moj.go.jp%2findex.ht ml)http://www.immi-moj.go.jp/image/spacer.gif
2006 March
The Ministry of Justice entry Bureau of Administrative Services
Ministry of Justice, March 13th, "the Ministerial ordinance which decides the standard of emigration and immigration management and the refugee recognition method seventh provision first section second number" (standard Ministerial ordinance) did part amendment. It is something which designates that among other things the important matter which relates to the device of the own country which accepts the particular foreigner concerning the foreigner whom this, following to "the human body transaction measure course of action" of government, tries will take a second look standard Ministerial ordinance drastically to land with residency qualification "of entertainment" the play, entertainment, song, the fact that the activity where relate the dance or performance to the entertainment is done as purpose, is converted strictly as contents. Amendment stipulation is enforced from June 1st. Summary after the amending is as follows, (stipulation after the amending please refers to the inclosure data.) .
1Removal from contracting agency such as human body transaction participation person
The system which concludes the foreign show biz celebrity and the contract which relates to entertainment (the contracting agency) concerning the manager and the staff of regular attendant,‡@The person where it does human body transaction, and the like seduces, or helps this‡AThe person who past participates in the illegal work activity of the foreigner in 5 years‡BThe person who applies untruth in order past to make non- just liberty and the like the foreigner receive in 5 years‡CFrom the day there not to be times when it is executed in punishment from entrance tube law 74 provision from crime or Anti-Prostituion Law 6 provision up to 8 of 74 provisions by the crime to 13 provisions, end the execution, or they receive punishment 5 years the person who does not elapse‡D5 years it designated that it does not correspond to the person who does not elapse as important matter from the day when it becomes not to be violence 団員or violence 団員. (Standard Ministerial ordinance 1st number ロ (3))
2Guaranty of remuneration payment
Concerning the contracting agency, in with the foreign show biz celebrity, we have concluded the contract which designates that owing the obligation which pays the remuneration above month amount 200000 Yen is stated clearly as contents, at the same time, it designated that payment in full of the remuneration which is based on the contract which past it concludes to 3 years is paid as important matter. (Standard Ministerial ordinance 1st number ロ (4))
3Removal from performance facility of human body transaction participation person et. al.
The important matter which is similar to 1 concerning the manager of the system which manages the performance facility and the staff of regular attendant, was decided. (Standard Ministerial ordinance 1st number ハ (6))
4Relief of the standard which relates to the entertainment whose fear such as illegal work is little
As important matter is eased concerning, human body transaction such as the entertainment which public system such as national & municipal corporation sponsors and the entertainment whose fear of illegal work is little, it received entertainment and the large amount remuneration in eating and drinking with the seat and facilitating where hospitality is not done, concerning the concert and the like which extremely period is done shortly it added to the application object of the important matter which is eased. (Standard Ministerial ordinance 2nd number)
5Interim measure
Standard before the amending is applied concerning when it is following.‡@When the residency qualification recognition certificate delivery application regarding the residency qualification of entertainment to enforcement day it does‡AWhen the foreigner who had the passport which receives the residency qualification recognition certificate or the visa regarding the residency qualification of the entertainment which is delivered to enforcement day landing application does after the enforcement day‡BWhen the foreigner who had the residency qualification recognition certificate regarding the residency qualification of the entertainment which it applies to enforcement day, is delivered after the enforcement day landing application it does
< Inclosure data >
Standard (http://babelfish.altavista. com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp =ja_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2fw ww.immi-moj.go.jp%2fkeiziban %2fhappyou%2fzairyuu .pdf)Ministerial ordinance of 0 amendments later (http://babelfish.altavista. com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp =ja_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2fw ww.immi-moj.go.jp%2fkeiziban %2fhappyou%2fzairyuu .pdf)


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>.. Yan na daw ang translated .... Happy reading sa inyo..

puting tainga
05-13-2006, 03:51 AM
I am interested in the following part, which says, in short, famous professionals are welcome to Japan.
Sana maraming stars will come to Japan.

Though the wordings may seem difficult, to those who know 1945 kanji, it is not too difficult to guess the meaning, or so I believe.


4 不法就労等のおそれが少ない興行に係る基準 の緩和
国・地方公共団体等公的機関が主催する興行 など,人身取引や不法就労のおそれが少ない 興行については,要件を緩和するとともに, 客席での飲食や接待が 行われない施設における興行や,高額の報酬 を受け,ごく短期間行われるコンサートなど についても緩和される要件の適用対象に加え ました。(基準省令第2 号)

The following is native-checked.

4 Huho-shuurou(ilegal work) tou(etc) no osore(possibility, not fear in this context) ga sukunai kougyou(show biz) ni kakaru(concerning) kijyun(criteria, condition) no kanwa(make it easier) :
Kuni(national government) chihou-koukyou-dantai(municipality) tou kouteki(public) kikan(institution) ga syusai(organize) suru kougyou nado, jinshin-torihiki(human trafficking) ya huhou-syuuryou no osore ga sukunai kougyou ni tsuite wa, youken(condition) o kanwa suru to tomo ni, kyakuseki(customer seats) de no insyoku(eating and drinking) ya settai(attending the customer) ga okowanawarenai shisetsu ni-okeru(old way of saying at that place, same as de no) kougyou ya, kougaku(high) no housyuu(pay) o uke, goku (very) tankikan(short time) okonaareru konsaato(concert) nado ni tsuite mo kanwa sareru youken no tekiyou(application) taishou(object, thing) ni kuwae(add) mashita. (Kijunsyourei(standa rd ministry by-law) dai ni gou)

Tonyang
05-13-2006, 10:24 AM
Ok itong discussion na ito na inumpisahan ni Striver... iyung solution short-term pero iyung effects na long-term, nay!!! Kasi basta sa strategies na makalulusot, magaling ang Pinoy at may kasabwat na mga Hapon. Two-way street lagi iyan. Pero ang matindi, tayong lahat ang kawawa.

Trafficking at population increase of unwanted children... lalong magiging problema natin. Akala natin, naisara na ang pinto at nai-lock ng husto papuntang Japan... kahit na kadena pa iyan o marmol o bakal na para di na sila makapasok sa Japan. Bukas makalawa, lusaw na ang bakal at butas na ang marmol dahil "Pinoy ba naman"... ooops baka iyung kinatatayuan mismo ng pinto ang hinukay na parang magtatanim para makalusot ang ulo kahit masaktan ng konti o mabalian ng braso at sigurado tayo na good timing, may lagay o lasing iyung body guard. Tama ba?

Maraming tips na kumakalat ngayon... 2 sectors muna tayo - (1) mga nag-stay na entertainer sa Japan at (2) iyung mga nasa Pinas na gustong bumalik sa Japan.

So kung susumahin, ang daming kasal na nangyaring mabilisan para sa unang sector natin - mga nag-stay na entertainer sa Japan at nag-backout na sila sa mga agency nila o iyung iba, nakikigrupo pa rin kahit buntis na o dahil gustong magbayad ng agency fee. Wow complicated.... Ok nakasal na sila at may visa na at maaaring nagwo-work pa rin sa pub pero spouse visa ang hawak. So may kasong binabayaran ang pangalan sa asawa like 50,000 yen o kaya naman, medyo nagkagusto ang Pinay pero pag nagka-visa siya ay hihiwalayan na niya o kaya naman, mabubuntis tapos iyung anak ang gagawing sandata para mag-stay sa Japan o kaya naman, magbibilog na lang muna hanggang sa may chance na magpakasal o pili muna. Bawat isang choice na ito na kinalulugaran ng kapwa natin sa Japan, anong effect sa pangkalahatan at ilan sila? Buhay nila yes pero epekto nito sa ating lahat babagsak. Tama ba? Are we complaining? Wala tayong magagawa kung nagawa na pero kung di pa nagagawa, paano kaya maiwasan ang ganito o out of question na ito at baka mapagalitan lang ninyo ako o deadend na dahil walang magawa ang gobyerno natin. We shouldn't give up kung walang magagawa ang gobyerno natin.

Ok sector 2... lipad muna sila sa Korea (saan pa ba dumadami ang prostitutes na Pinay ngayon? another subject - entertainer vs. prostitute sa pagkakaalam natin) then after 2 years, try ulit sa Japan. O lipad kaya sila sa isang bansa na magbibigay ng resident o working status agad para tourist kunwari sa Japan o kaya gagawa ng o-mise sa labas ng Japan tapos babalik sa Japan after 2 years. Iyung iba, totoo o iyung iba kathang-isip lang siguro. Maraming versions pa kayong nalalaman tiyak.

To sum it all, just listing up the present scenarios and scenarios to be... nakakapagod. Di ka pa tapos mag-isip ng solusyon. Parang buhol-buhol na hindi mo alam ang umpisa at paano kakalasin ang pagkabuhol. O kaya ikonek-konek ang mga rason at mga opsyon na puwedeng solusyon... tapos, ilan lang iyung gustong kumilos para may pagbabago. At the end of the day, you'll end up giving up the thought that we'll ever change. But tomorrow morning, you don't want to give up because you always think about the future of the next generations. Why can't we do it right now? Ok na sa atin iyung ganoon? Hit and miss... basta kumita... basta makalusot... di na natin mahal ang ating DIGNIDAD? I don't think totoo iyung "may nagugutom akong pamilya sa Pinas" bilang solid reason dahil sa mga nakasalamuha ko rito na may nagugutom na pamilya kaya nag-overseas, sila lang ang nagpapakain at di naman kumikilos ang mga nasa Pinas.

Then dahil sa lahat ng mga nangyayari sa atin, bawat isa sa atin na walang kamuwang-muwang sa nangyayari, nagsasakripisyo at apektado tayo kung paano tayo kausapin o itrato ng ibang lahi. Suwerte ka na kung makatrabaho mo muna siya para mapatunayan na iba ka sa ibang Pinoy. Why prove always? "Kasi Pilipino ka!" - iyan ang katotohanan.

Lumayo ba ang usapan o nandoon pa rin tayo sa parehong topic?

PILIPINAS
05-13-2006, 04:22 PM
buti nga na nag higpit ang immigration ng japan sa mga pinoy na mga entertainer(olala dancers at singers),
mga pinoy na IT,Engineers at Nurses na naman ang papasokin dito.
kung baga CHANGE IMAGE............

:rolleyes:
i think we have the same dream. to change our image.

sa tinggin ko depende sa demand. what can we do kung mas ma-taas ang demand sa entertainers kesa sa IT,Engineers at Nurses? isa pang problema, ay ang language barrier, specially for our nurses. how can they work if they don't know the language. we are considering the life of the patients, masyadong malaki ang responsibilty. unlike the entertainers.

since mayroon nang bagong law regarding the entertainers, let us monitor. who knows, baka may susunod na ANITA na lilitaw in the process. the world is looking at this human traficking monkey business. this time, i think, japan will be very carefull. :)