Filipino scholars in Japan reverse brain drain

[Paul]

http://news.inq7.net/images/masthead01.gif (http://news.inq7.net/nation/index.php?index=3&story_id=78342&published_site=16)Fi lipino scholars in Japan reverse brain drain

First posted 04:44am (Mla time) June 07, 2006
By Doris C. Dumlao
Inquirer

TOKYO -- More and more Filipinos are being drawn to universities in Asia’s wealthiest country, but unlike those who pursue higher studies elsewhere, they tend to be more eager to return home and contribute to the brain gain.

Read the whole article... (http://news.inq7.net/nation/index.php?index=3&story_id=78342&published_site=16)

Published on the front page of the June 7, 2006 issue of the Philippine Daily Inquirer.

[greatbarrier]

thanks for this, paul-san! i am suddenly reminded by the opportunity once recommended to me by a group of japanese that i met through my line of work. one of them told me that i have a high chance of getting accepted since my work exposure is substantially on that field that he was suggesting!

now, i realized why don't i give him a call and try my luck!

arigato gozaimasu!

[reon]

1 or 2 familiar names and faces. :)

More and more Filipinos are being drawn to universities in Asia’s wealthiest country, but unlike those who pursue higher studies elsewhere, they tend to be more eager to return home and contribute to the brain gain.I wonder if there are hard statistics about this. Of course, probably the reason why more Japan-trained professionals go back to the Philippines (or go somewhere else) is because of the culture and language barrier more than anything else.

The only thing unfortunate about the article is the small picture. :)

[Janer]

@reon

Had the picture been bigger pwede na sanang yun na din ang reference pic pati ng Manila Zoo article. :hihi:

[d_southpaw]

1 or 2 familiar names and faces. :)
I wonder if there are hard statistics about this. Of course, probably the reason why more Japan-trained professionals go back to the Philippines (or go somewhere else) is because of the culture and language barrier more than anything else.


I am not sure if it is the general trend, but there are also good career opportunities for those who went back because of the unique skills acquired here. Those skills match what the Japanese companies/businesses in the Philippines want. I know a few who are fairly high up in the companies there - country managers, director, general manager of a big department, sales manager.

[reon]

This is true. I know many former students who went back to the Philippines instead of work here because of the language. Yet, I also know as many who mastered Nihongo and went back to the Philippines for well-paying jobs in Japanese companies.

@Janer: any particular reason why all the people in the picture are women? :)

[Paul]

http://www.inq7.net/archive/2006/jun/07/bigfront.jpg1 or 2 familiar names and faces. :)

I wonder if there are hard statistics about this. Of course, probably the reason why more Japan-trained professionals go back to the Philippines (or go somewhere else) is because of the culture and language barrier more than anything else.

The only thing unfortunate about the article is the small picture. :)

I'm pretty sure PHILAJAMES can give you some numbers regarding this. Another reason why some of them go back home is because of the binding contract they have with the institutions or companies where they came from.

The picture is actually quite large in the actual newspaper.

[Dax]

How about you peeps? When do you plan to go back? :confused: Or...do you even plan to? Last year I thought in 3 years time I'd be ready, but right now I think it will be another 4 or 5. :O Yes I know it's selfishness on my part. I only think of myself and my family. Pero sa totoo lang ang dami pang 不安 pag umuwi na for good, specially concerning work. How about you?

[Tonyang]

Thanks for sharing that, Paul. I finally met the cream of the crop at Timog. Nice to meet you, fellow scholars. Can we work together to help the country? Are you interested to share what you're doing now or wish to do to help the country? I am looking forward to your reply.

[d_southpaw]

Thanks for sharing that, Paul. I finally met the cream of the crop at Timog. Nice to meet you, fellow scholars. Can we work together to help the country? Are you interested to share what you're doing now or wish to do to help the country? I am looking forward to your reply.

No one raised hands to your challenge Ka Tonyang. I guess they are too humble to be called 'cream of the crop'.

I am sure I am not part of it either. Cream of the crap - perhaps :D

With all due respect, I am sure there are many here in Timog who are doing their best in their lives, their own jobs or businesses. They are a cream of the crop in their own rights too. So I think your call goes to a lot wider audience. I saw that thread about organising amongst TF'ers (with the aim of finding something positive that can be collectively done ?). That is surely a good step forward. Sana tuloy-tuloy kahit maraming mga challenges na ma-encounter.

[Tonyang]

No one raised hands to your challenge Ka Tonyang. I guess they are too humble to be called 'cream of the crop'.

I am sure I am not part of it either. Cream of the crap - perhaps :D

With all due respect, I am sure there are many here in Timog who are doing their best in their lives, their own jobs or businesses. They are a cream of the crop in their own rights too. So I think your call goes to a lot wider audience. I saw that thread about organising amongst TF'ers (with the aim of finding something positive that can be collectively done ?). That is surely a good step forward. Sana tuloy-tuloy kahit maraming mga challenges na ma-encounter.


Thanks for this message, Dsouthpaw. Sana di masama ang loob ng mga scholar natin sa mga panawagang ginagawa natin. Sana di offensive ang dating dahil nagpapaalala lamang tayo. I also know that we know our responsibilities. Really true that intelligent ones have the greater burden to share to do something for the country. Di naman mahirap kung nagtutulungan tayo. Mahirap kung iilang kamay lang ang nakilos.

Kasi kung tutuusin, ang mga problema natin sa Pinas ay hindi lamang problema ng 1 o ilang opisyales ng ating pamahalaan. As you know too, Dsouthpaw, lahat tayo ay konektado... kahit anong iwas nating sumali sa problema o makiisa sa solution, apektado tayo either directly o indirectly. Directly wala tayong kasalanan o ginagawang masama pero iyung pagiging Pilipino, damay tayong lahat. Ang mahirap pa niyan, mas maraming masamang bansag sa pagka-Pilipino at malaki talagang hamon ito para sa mga scholar at matatalinong mga kababayan natin. Pag ina-analyze talaga natin ang kabuuan at pira-pirasong problema at posibleng solusyon, factor talaga ang participation ng mga matatalinong mamamayan natin. Kaya pag umiwas silang makakasama natin, di kaya wala na talagang pagasa?

We cannot ignore the fact that we can do something... the fact that we can build theories and techniques that manifest our excellence in the field we're into, those are proofs enough that we could change the world. Pag pinagsama-sama iyan then may pira-piraso tayong tinututukan, ang ganda ng bayan natin...

We do have reservations. Ayaw natin ang pulitika etc... pero may kagalingan tayo para di harapin ang pulitikang ito at may power tayo through our numbers.

But then, we'll go on discussing this over and over... sayang ang panahon pa rin Dsouthpaw... right in this thread, there's a handful of them already. Siguro nga may mga ginagawa na rin sila. Sana lang may common map tayo para may common goal tayong hinaharap para sa bayan.

May sasagot kaya? Tagal ko na sa Japan, sa bawat 100 na kakasalamuha kong may potential, 1 o 2 lang ang serioso at talagang tututukan ang problema kahit volunteer lang at di lang doleout, Dsouthpaw. Baka problema ang approach ko para di magalit sa akin ang mga scholar. But come to think of it, ilan ba sa atin ang naiintindihan talaga ang problema at tamang solusyon ng bawat isa sa mga problema natin sa bayan? I am sure maraming makakasagot... pero hands off at hindi hands on. Baka mali na naman ako sa aking palagay.

[d_southpaw]

May sasagot kaya? Tagal ko na sa Japan, sa bawat 100 na kakasalamuha kong may potential, 1 o 2 lang ang seryoso at talagang tututukan ang problema kahit volunteer lang at di lang doleout, Dsouthpaw. Baka problema ang approach ko para di magalit sa akin ang mga scholar. But come to think of it, ilan ba sa atin ang naiintindihan talaga ang problema at tamang solusyon ng bawat isa sa mga problema natin sa bayan? I am sure maraming makakasagot... pero hands off at hindi hands on. Baka mali na naman ako sa aking palagay.

Wala uling sumagot sa iyo Ka Tonyang.

My experience is also probably not far from that number.

Meron pa ngang cases na nagbibigay sa akin ng advice kung papaano raw dapat mamili ng scholars - eh ni hindi nga mag-i-sponsor! People will always be willing to 'talk'. And talk only they will.

But then again, I think that number - which is based on your actual experience - is true not only for the scholars. Palagay ko ganyan tayong mga Pilipino, in general. Talk about problems - and you will hear 'expert' opinions. Complain about problems and blames will come flying from all over the place.

Talk and ask about doing even small solutions - and there will be deafening silence.

場合によっては足を引っ張られることもある 。

From the positive perspective, mabuti na lang may 1 o 2 pa sa bawat 100 na nakakausap mo Ka Tonyang. Even at that rate you have been affecting many peoples lives towards the better, but it will not grow to a considerable number that may affect the society as a whole.

Sana may mga Bill Gates na lang tayo, o Hewllett or Packard. Bill said he is spending some 30B$ for philanthropic things. The latter two - hp founders - as well as their families have also been doing lots of public services - pero mainly sa bansa nila.

Mag-business ka rin muna kaya Ka Tonyang. Para pag malago na yong business mo, mas marami ka ng mai-impluwensyahan at mas marami ka ng magagawa. Having lots of money is good, specially if those are going to be used to help.

[d_southpaw]

Sana may mga Bill Gates na lang tayo, o Hewllett or Packard. Bill said he is spending some 30B$ for philanthropic things. The latter two - hp founders - as well as their families have also been doing lots of public services - pero mainly sa bansa nila.

Mag-business ka rin muna kaya Ka Tonyang. Para pag malago na yong business mo, mas marami ka ng mai-impluwensyahan at mas marami ka ng magagawa. Having lots of money is good, specially if those are going to be used to help.

Ito pa ang isa. Still fresh in the news. Si Buffett rin, apparently the 2nd richest person on earth, next to Bill Gates, is also donating a small amount of money to charity. To the tune of some tens of billions of US$ lang yata. The guy apparently is giving away most of his wealth for philanthropy. According to one news, most of it going to Bill Gates foundation. Magkaibigan pala yong dalawa. Well, birds of the same feather flock together :).

[Tonyang]

Dsouthpaw, matiyaga ka na sa pagtulong, matiyaga ka pang sumagot para magpatuloy lang ang thread na ito at may marinig tayo kahit 1 lang na sumagot na scholar din sana.

There's a model of remittance cooperative I am suggesting for OFWs in Japan. Bukod pa iyong FISJ (http://fisj.wordpress.com ).

[d_southpaw]

There's a model of remittance cooperative I am suggesting for OFWs in Japan. Bukod pa iyong FISJ (http://fisj.wordpress.com ).

Just my own opinion. The remittance business will probably be formed more quickly and surely if at first there are just a few involved, particularly those who have the ideas and the drive to put those ideas into real action. It is difficult to move things forward and make things happen if most members need to be pulled. Nakakapagod. The business has to be moving before the mass follow suit and join.

Same with the school. I hope you will find people who can lead the actions needed to make it move forward.

Your expertise as a career is in the general financial world. Any potential business in that area ? Yes, the remittance business is finance related, but I guess it is primarily geared towards OFW. How about something that targets the Japanese market?

Good luck and more power!!

[Tonyang]

Thanks, Dsouthpaw...

Dito sa Timog, sana may sumama sa mga nagtitiyaga at gumagawa ng mga paraan para magkaroon na ng pagbabago. Kaysa manood, magtawanan na lang sila dahil sa "kakulitan" sa advocacy na ganito, magtinginan, magpatagisan ng galing o magkibit balikat lang dahil "for whatever reason" na hindi nila magampanan ang kanilang obligasyon sa ating bayan. Ang problema nga, Dsouthpaw, pag naging iskolar, daladala mo talaga ang daing ng bayan. Desisyun natin kung ok lang sa atin na tuwing nagagamit natin ang pagiging Pilipino, nahihirapan tayo. Sa loob ng Pilipinas, di problema. Sa labas ng Pilipinas, nandoon na. Tanungin natin sarili natin kung wala ni minsan o isang pagkakataon na ipinagkait sa atin ang isang bagay, pinagdudahan tayo o alam nating second o last priority tayo dahil tayo ay mga Pilipino. We couldn't deny it. Alright, di man nangyari sa atin ang mga ganoong pagkakataon, paano naman kaya ang trato sa mga darating na generation...? Mga Pinoy iskolar - anong magagawa natin para di tayo nakakawawa kahit wala tayong kasalanan sa mga nangyayari? Concerned ba tayo? If yes, anong dapat nating gawin? I am sure di naman masama ang ganitong tanong at di rin masama na isang concern lamang ito para di tayo nakakaranas ng anumang level ng discrimination sa labas ng Pilipinas.

Before you know it, bukas kung pupunta ka sa US o Canada o UK, ingat lang kung green ang passport mo at tiyak, sa loob ng immigration, bigla ka na lang matatakot o magtataka ka kung bakit ang daming tanong sa iyo at bigla kang magiging smart sa mga offensive na tanong samantalang ang iba naman ay pinadaan lang. Ikaw na serioso at maayos ang porma at may business trip na purpose, tinanong ng marami at tiningnan iyung alien card, itinerary, etc... samantalang ang mga kasabayan mong Haponesa na mga turista at nagtatawanan lang ay pinadaan lang. Grabe di ba? Bakit nila tayo ginaganyan di ba? Isa lang iyan sa mga example natin kung kailangan natin kailangang gamitin at patunayan na tayo ay mga matitinong Pilipino. Ngalang, sa mga nabanggit kong pagkakataon, isa lang ang bahid natin... basta Pilipino lang. Kaya sorry na lang tayo...do we deserve this?

[rya]

im compelled to reply...buhay pa po ba ang thread na to?

[itchay]

im compelled to reply...buhay pa po ba ang thread na to?

good for you that you resurrected this thread.

i am eager to read your share po. :)

[black PeN]

Di po ako iskolar ng ating bayan, ordinaryong mamayan laang. Share lang po. I heard from an old Korean friend, that long time ago in south Korea, the government sent lots of scholars to different countries to study. They all went back to Korea after studying inorder to have this what they call brain storming. Then boom! That's how they started to develop. Sana sa atin ganito rin.

[rya]

Wala uling sumagot sa iyo Ka Tonyang.

My experience is also probably not far from that number.

Meron pa ngang cases na nagbibigay sa akin ng advice kung papaano raw dapat mamili ng scholars - eh ni hindi nga mag-i-sponsor! People will always be willing to 'talk'. And talk only they will.

But then again, I think that number - which is based on your actual experience - is true not only for the scholars. Palagay ko ganyan tayong mga Pilipino, in general. Talk about problems - and you will hear 'expert' opinions. Complain about problems and blames will come flying from all over the place.

Talk and ask about doing even small solutions - and there will be deafening silence.

場合によっては足を引っ張られることもある 。

From the positive perspective, mabuti na lang may 1 o 2 pa sa bawat 100 na nakakausap mo Ka Tonyang. Even at that rate you have been affecting many peoples lives towards the better, but it will not grow to a considerable number that may affect the society as a whole.



Isa po ako sa mga scholars na sinasabi nyo at sa nakikita ko e naghintay ng mga dalawang taon bago ulit may sumagot kay Ka Tonyang. I have been in Japan for four years now and in those four years, there has always been the desire to come up with something or to　join in any program that could help our country but it remained as, well the "desire" or the "thought". Probably because like me, most of us must have been swamped with the stress and work in our respective schools, at trying to impress and please our senseis, and well, just trying to live through this Japan experience, one day at a time and then suddenly we notice that it has been a couple of years and more. (notice that i just registered at TF...errr I just discovered TF heheheh)

But I digress with my excuses so let me break the silence, raise my hand and say, if you have that idea or ideal now, for the betterment of our country and countrymen, count me in... heck its idealistic but....

Malayong lupain, amin mang marating
Di rin magbabago ang damdamin...ika nga...

[remydesu]

How about you peeps? When do you plan to go back? :confused: Or...do you even plan to? Last year I thought in 3 years time I'd be ready, but right now I think it will be another 4 or 5. :O Yes I know it's selfishness on my part. I only think of myself and my family. Pero sa totoo lang ang dami pang 不安 pag umuwi na for good, specially concerning work. How about you?
I intend to go back home as soon as my MA is finished!!!
Goodluck po sa lahat!

[rya]

Around September last year, I read about this great woman who has been so relentless at organizing and helping her fellow Filipinos whether in Japan or in the Philippines. That article was written to remember her and her works and to inspire anybody who reads it. I remember telling myself and my friends how sad that such a full and active life for a very kind and active woman who still has a lot to do and a lot of people to help has to end shortly.

I just registered at TF this month and then I saw this thread. I replied to it in the hope the "Tonyang" would read it and be glad that at least there was one who replied to her call. This morning, I saw another thread about her and I realized she was that woman I read about last year.

Now I know that the reply I have been waiting for wont come. I hope though that there will be more persons like her and that her life would serve as an inspiration to all of us. Rest in peace Ka Tonyang and may your legacy live on.

[itchay]

Around September last year, I read about this great woman who has been so relentless at organizing and helping her fellow Filipinos whether in Japan or in the Philippines. That article was written to remember her and her works and to inspire anybody who reads it. I remember telling myself and my friends how sad that such a full and active life for a very kind and active woman who still has a lot to do and a lot of people to help has to end shortly.

I just registered at TF this month and then I saw this thread. I replied to it in the hope the "Tonyang" would read it and be glad that at least there was one who replied to her call. This morning, I saw another thread about her and I realized she was that woman I read about last year.

Now I know that the reply I have been waiting for wont come. I hope though that there will be more persons like her and that her life would serve as an inspiration to all of us. Rest in peace Ka Tonyang and may your legacy live on.

you should have met her, rya-san. then, you would have been more inspired, so inspired it will push you into action. that was her effect on me. she really was a woman full of vision, but a realist at the same time. she had this kind of balance that made all those visions turn into something tangible, one at a time.

and i think you can continue what she's started even without a reply from her. she has left enough of a legacy here for those who want to walk the same road as she did. just browse around the forums, search for her posts. she was a knowledge-sharer. you will learn from her postings, learn enough to start you off right in your endeavor.

gambatte kudasai.

[rya]

Very true Itchay san. Each of us should do whatever we can to effect the change we want, no matter how little they may be.