I'm feeling so stupid

[sharja]

To All TF members,
I just want to share this experience with you and hope that somehow This will serve as a warning to all.
This afternoon, I went to the mall with my 2 half american kids. May lumapit sa amin na kunwarin ay namimigay sila ng product as form of advertisement dahil bago daw ang store nila. I told him that we were in hurry but he said that it's only going to take a minute, just go to the store and sign for the promotional product wich is an umbrella. Itong anak ko, gusto konin dahil umuulan ngayon dito sa Pilipinas. Noong nandoon na kami sa store, he then showed us this AOWA cookware, and wanted to show some more, sabi ko nasaan na 'yong payong, so he said he is going to get it, tapos pumasok sa office. Medyo natagalan sya, then he said to open the umbrella to test if it is working. Noong binuksan ng anak ko, meron nahulog na papel, then he said that I have won something but he still needs to verify it. Tapos, bigla na lang lumapit 'yong mga sales associate at nag congratulate sa akin dahil, ako daw yong product endorser nila, anyway to make it short, they made me believe that I won 2 appliances totaling around 75,000.00 pesos but I have to purchase a product in order to get it. I was told that it was an on the spot offer and they will have to give the promo to someone else and that, lima lang daw sa whole Philippines ang maka avail ng ganoon. To make it short, they ran my credit card to the amount of 32,800 pesos for a foot massage. I left the store to go to eat, but did not take the products with me, after i ate I realize that I was taken, so I came home, to google search, AOWA appliances, and found out that this is an on going scam. Right now , my sister is helping me to cancel the transaction, but I am felling very stupid, considering this happen in front of my 2 foriegn kids, in our beloved Philippines .

[chris_rock]

parang scam nga yan sa malls. they'll say you won something big but in order to avail of it, you have to purchase a certain product from them.

meron din, they'll say you won a vacation package. catch naman, you have to buy the plane ticket from them (or something to that effect).

sorry for you loss sharja. and the bitter thing is, it happened here in the phils. pa.

[DJchot]

sorry for your loss sharja. bad trip ako pag nakakarinig ng ganyan.

muntik na rin ako mabiktima ng ganyan. dinayo ko pa yung store nila to claim my "prize" daw pero kailangan ko munang bumili ng ganito...buti na lang, wala akong credit card non hahaha :D

then last year lang, to namang wife ko...nadala din sa matamis na dila..family first naman...i was in japan that time...tumawag pa ako sa pinas para awayin yung mga damuho na yon pero wala ring nangyari...7thou down the drain :(

donation ko na lang sa mga manggogoyo na yon! :mad:

[infinite_trial]

hi ms. sharja...have you seen the complaints in the gov.ph forum (http://www.gov.ph/forum/thread.asp?rootID=67 560&catID=13)?

someone posted there DTI's hotline 751-3330. sabi nila under close monitoring daw yung AOWA appliances pero yung thread last year pa and may updates pa hanggang ngayon.

[subaruchan]

Ganyan din ang nangyari sa akin ng umuwi ako last November dyan sa isang Mall sa Edsa . yan Family first at nakunan nila ako ng Ph 75.000.00 thru credit card ikinulong ako at halos ayaw palabasin sa office nila may mga guard pa na halos inabot ako ng alas 7 ng gabi ni hindi ako nakakain ng tanghalian , buti na lang at dumating ang kaibigan ko at pinagmumura sila ngunit huli na dahil nakuhanan na nila ako ng pera salit salitan sila ng pagsasalita di ka makakasingit at at talagang nakakatakot sila dahil parang hinihypnotized ka nila , nagsumbong ako sa police ng Mall at sabi nila marami ngang nagrereklamo sa kanila . hangang sa ipinaabot ko sa head office nila pero talagang ayaw nilang ibigay na ang pera . Hanggang sa makauwi ako dito di na nila ibinigay ang pera.

Tulad mo Dchot ambag ko na lang sa kanilang lahat pag namatay sila ang nakuha nila sa akin. Mula nuon pag umuwi ako di na ako nagpupunta ng Mall at kahit sinong lumapit na di kilala sa akin di ko pinapansin.

Nakakahiya talaga sa pinas ka pa maloloko at umuwi ka lang para magenjoy pero di pala . Nakakatakot tuloy umuwi na sa atin. Ibang ibang klaseng panloloko ang naiisip nila, kumita lang ng pera.

Sa mga gumagawa nyan may karma sa kanila yan at di nila madadala sa langit at impyerno yan.

[sharja]

Salamat sa lahat na nag response, subaruchan, ganoon nga pinasok nga ako sa isang kwarto, this was on our way to eat, so iwan ko, dahil siguro gutom ako o kaya tanga ako.
infenite trial, yon nga ang nakita kung feed back kaya tuloy, i am feeling stupid to feel on thier modos operande.
DJchot masuwerti ka at hindi ka nadala.
chris_rock, 'yon na na nga, kasama ko pa naman ang mga bata, so I know they will remember this for a very long time tapos I am sure ma e kwento nila sa mga friends nila sa US.

[dcat]

Tapos, bigla na lang lumapit 'yong mga sales associate at nag congratulate sa akin dahil, ako daw yong product endorser nila, anyway to make it short, they made me believe that I won 2 appliances totaling around 75,000.00 pesos

One rule: if it's too good to be true, most probably it is. :)

[Chibi]

sorry for your loss sharja. bad trip ako pag nakakarinig ng ganyan.

muntik na rin ako mabiktima ng ganyan. dinayo ko pa yung store nila to claim my "prize" daw pero kailangan ko munang bumili ng ganito...buti na lang, wala akong credit card non hahaha :D

then last year lang, to namang wife ko...nadala din sa matamis na dila..family first naman...i was in japan that time...tumawag pa ako sa pinas para awayin yung mga damuho na yon pero wala ring nangyari...7thou down the drain :(

donation ko na lang sa mga manggogoyo na yon! :mad:
kamuntik na rin ako dati mabiktma nyan sa Harrison Plaza,may free daw na chuchuchuchcu.....bu ti na lang kasama ko yung pamangkin ko na dating nag trabaho sa AOWA,ayun kina usap yung jokla natameme,buking sila!!!

[sharja]

thanks again sa lahat. I called my bank in the US, i just have to fill the proper forms, it does help to talk it over here, I am feeling better.

[DJchot]

Ganyan din ang nangyari sa akin ng umuwi ako last November dyan sa isang Mall sa Edsa . yan Family first at nakunan nila ako ng Ph 75.000.00 thru credit card ikinulong ako at halos ayaw palabasin sa office nila may mga guard pa na halos inabot ako ng alas 7 ng gabi ni hindi ako nakakain ng tanghalian , buti na lang at dumating ang kaibigan ko at pinagmumura sila ngunit huli na dahil nakuhanan na nila ako ng pera salit salitan sila ng pagsasalita di ka makakasingit at at talagang nakakatakot sila dahil parang hinihypnotized ka nila , nagsumbong ako sa police ng Mall at sabi nila marami ngang nagrereklamo sa kanila . hangang sa ipinaabot ko sa head office nila pero talagang ayaw nilang ibigay na ang pera . Hanggang sa makauwi ako dito di na nila ibinigay ang pera.

Tulad mo Dchot ambag ko na lang sa kanilang lahat pag namatay sila ang nakuha nila sa akin. Mula nuon pag umuwi ako di na ako nagpupunta ng Mall at kahit sinong lumapit na di kilala sa akin di ko pinapansin.

Nakakahiya talaga sa pinas ka pa maloloko at umuwi ka lang para magenjoy pero di pala . Nakakatakot tuloy umuwi na sa atin. Ibang ibang klaseng panloloko ang naiisip nila, kumita lang ng pera.

Sa mga gumagawa nyan may karma sa kanila yan at di nila madadala sa langit at impyerno yan.

hi sharja! sorry for riding in your thread. gusto ko lang magcomment pa uli dito sa pinost ni subaruchan about family first...

ganitong ganito rin kasi ang nangyari sa wife ko. pinasok siya sa room tapos ayaw ng palabasin. inabot sya ng more than 2hrs. ganon ata ang tactics nila hanggang sa ikaw na ang sumuko at pumirma na ng application form. itong wife ko, since kailangan ng umuwi dahil naiwan yung girl namin, napilitan na lang pumirma dahil binigyan siya ng condition na pag di ko raw nagustuhan yung package na kinuha ng wife ko, irereverse na lang daw nila yung binayad nya...wala rin...di rin narefund. ituloy na lang daw namin yung insurance para di masayang yung pera. malinaw na panloloko...

marami ng complaint yang family first na yan pero nasa sm malls pa rin..haay

[ayumi]

hi! Sharja san, nasa Pinas ka pala...
nalungkot naman ako sa nangyari sa yo,sa Pinas talaga..lagi na lang tayong
mga balikbayan ang naloloko...sa ibang bayan hindi tayo naloloko..sa sariling
bayan natin..lagi na lang....tayong ganito ano?
..siguro..you have to call the credit card company and cancell the purchase you made.
puede yata yun with your complete explanation and the back-up site sa internet na nabasa
mo... GOD bless...Ingat talaga sa Pinas....marami kaseng manloloko sa hirap ng buhay DAW!....

[fisher]

That's how famous we are Sharja! And No! I don't want to be one as do the foreigners think.......we are sinking.Sad to think we are all in the same boat.

[yeba!]

One rule: if it's too good to be true, most probably it is. :)

very true. a good rule to live by. there's no such thing as free lunch diba.
kami ng nanay ko tig-100k naman pero in another incident. yung scam before na invest mo money mo then you'd get 4.5% per month. ayun first few moths ok. tapos before you know it bouncing na yung checks na binigay nila. tsk-tsk.

pasintabi na din. this is the same impression i have with networking. if their system is so perfect that one can earn so much from so little output then wala na sanang mahirap sa pinas. they could recuit as many tambay as they want. pautangin muna nila ng panimula contribution tutal mababawi naman nila yung intial output diba pero bat di nila magawa :confused: sistemang corrupt. taking advantage of other people's hope of having better fortune.

[sharja]

thanks Ayumi,
I already called my credit card company because for 1 thing, hindi ko kinuha yong items, I came home and check on the internet about the product only to find out that it was scum.
Yes, fisher it is sad that a lot of our kababayan will go this low to make money.
Yeba,
It wasn't the thought of a free lunch that it hurts, it is the thought that there is no 'real law" that protect the consumer here.
Yes, DJchot, I need to clear my head to think the proper stragedy, for this not for me but for the sake of other people, so they won't feel so tanga like me, while the scummers are feeling so smart.

[thermometer]

To All TF members,
I just want to share this experience with you and hope that somehow This will serve as a warning to all.
This afternoon, I went to the mall with my 2 half american kids. May lumapit sa amin na kunwarin ay namimigay sila ng product as form of advertisement dahil bago daw ang store nila. I told him that we were in hurry but he said that it's only going to take a minute, just go to the store and sign for the promotional product wich is an umbrella. Itong anak ko, gusto konin dahil umuulan ngayon dito sa Pilipinas. Noong nandoon na kami sa store, he then showed us this AOWA cookware, and wanted to show some more, sabi ko nasaan na 'yong payong, so he said he is going to get it, tapos pumasok sa office. Medyo natagalan sya, then he said to open the umbrella to test if it is working. Noong binuksan ng anak ko, meron nahulog na papel, then he said that I have won something but he still needs to verify it. Tapos, bigla na lang lumapit 'yong mga sales associate at nag congratulate sa akin dahil, ako daw yong product endorser nila, anyway to make it short, they made me believe that I won 2 appliances totaling around 75,000.00 pesos but I have to purchase a product in order to get it. I was told that it was an on the spot offer and they will have to give the promo to someone else and that, lima lang daw sa whole Philippines ang maka avail ng ganoon. To make it short, they ran my credit card to the amount of 32,800 pesos for a foot massage. I left the store to go to eat, but did not take the products with me, after i ate I realize that I was taken, so I came home, to google search, AOWA appliances, and found out that this is an on going scam. Right now , my sister is helping me to cancel the transaction, but I am felling very stupid, considering this happen in front of my 2 foriegn kids, in our beloved Philippines .
hehehee.. dati nong wala ako magawa.. at meron sila promo na 2 tickets sa sine..

ang ginawa ko ni avail ko yong promo..yon nga lang.. kailangn makipag debate pa ako sa knila
ng todo todo..since wala naman ako gngawa during that time ok lang...yon nga lang kailangn wag ka mag lalabas ng any information sa knila..

if you know how to debate and me time ka .. mananalo ka sa knila..

Bad thing sa knila ..I showed them a expired credit card..:devil:
They dont realize na exprired..
Then umuwi ako meron ako 2 passes for movie and napaglibangan ko sila hehehhee

[sharja]

Buti ka pa thermometer, na prito mo rin sila sa sarili nilang mantika.
Early this morning somebody delivered the credit slip to me, charges has been reversed. I hate to pull strings but it was my last recourse. We are not taking any prisoners..

[miles]

hello :) ako rin muntik na maging biktima, ng mga ganyan. di naman natin masisisis yung mga staff ng store dahil sa dami ng walang trabaho ngayon dito sa Pinas, pati panloloko pinapasok na rin. Mababait at matatamis ang dila ng ilang staff, hindi sila tumitigil hanggang di kanila mahihikayat na magpurchase ng product nila, then pag alam nila na hindi ka nila magoyo, iiwan ka na lang at hahanap uli ng panibagog mabibiktima.

Beware din sa mga naghahanap ng trabaho, ako kasabikan kong magkaroon ng trabaho, hanap ako sa Manila bulletin. meron akong nakita sa line box. "ofc. staff txt this no." ako naman txt, then reply sya agad punta daw ako sa ofc nila located sa Phil.Stock Exchange sa may Ortigas Center, to take exam and interview. sa madaling salita nakapasa ako at pinababalik ako the ff. day for orientation at pag nakapasa sa orientation na yon sila ang magsasabi kung ano posistion ang nababagay sa akin. Siyempre pa bumalik ako, after the 3 hrs orientation and assesstment, buy ako ng health insurance for the good posistion. Isipin mo para lang magakaroon ka ng trabaho kailangan mong mag avail ng health product nila na worth 5,000 Php. at Area Manager agad ang posistion. Hindi pinag-usapan ang sweldo depende sa performance at kung gambatteru kang magrecruit ng applicants o kaya magogoyo.

Simula pa lang alam ko na scam pero di pa rin ako naniwala sa instinct ko. :(

[aprilluck]

Buti ka pa thermometer, na prito mo rin sila sa sarili nilang mantika.
Early this morning somebody delivered the credit slip to me, charges has been reversed. I hate to pull strings but it was my last recourse. We are not taking any prisoners..


Hi Sharja ! tama lang ang ginawa mong aksyon para sa mga taong walang iniisip kundi manloko ng kapwa ,lalo na tulad nating minsan lang umuwi sa 'Pinas tapos may souvenir pa na nakakasama ng loob .Ang point kasi ay niloloko tayo ng harapan ,kaya nakakangitngit !!!!
Kaya para sa ating mga kababayan na uuwi ngayong summer vacation ,Dobleng ingat po ang kailangan !!

Sharja ,enjoy your last minute sa 'pinas , kahit alam kong hindi pa masyadong okey sa'yo ,isipin mo na lang na nightmare ang nangyari .:) God Bless.

april

[DJchot]

Buti ka pa thermometer, na prito mo rin sila sa sarili nilang mantika.
Early this morning somebody delivered the credit slip to me, charges has been reversed. I hate to pull strings but it was my last recourse. We are not taking any prisoners..

that's good to know, buti nareverse yung charges sa credit card mo.

yung sa wife ko, walang nagawa ang citibank dahil kailangan manggaling yung order dun mismo sa family first :(

[thermometer]

Buti ka pa thermometer, na prito mo rin sila sa sarili nilang mantika.
Early this morning somebody delivered the credit slip to me, charges has been reversed. I hate to pull strings but it was my last recourse. We are not taking any prisoners..
Hinde ba puede...contaking directly ang credit card company to hold the transaction??

siguro naman with good reason..Card company will be considerate..

[greatbarrier]

sorry to hear that sharja! you're supposed to be on vacation tapos nabiktima ka pa ng mga ganitong MOs.

anyway, if you look at it, it's not totally a scam naman. it's just that these people force you to buy something against your will, na hindi dapat. this is some sort of blackmail selling! & yeah, i heard na under investigation ang AOWA.

yung family first, marketing strategy nila yun to sell their insurance plans...true! ang nakakainis dyan they will hold you as long as they can until you get pissed off & mawalan ng choice but to get a plan kahit wala kang kabalak-balak kumuha! na-invite na rin ako dito when they were still new, i was with my friend. kaso wala talaga kaming balak kumuha kaya wala silang nagawa! yun nga lang, we lost time and transpo cost papunta dun sa office nila.. kung alam lang namin...maganda kasi yung promotion kaya pinatulan namin...

haay! dcat is right, if you think it's too good to be true, more often than not, it is! sa panahon ngayon, there's no such thing as free!

actually, di lang po sa pinas ganyan. meron din po ganyan sa china...a friend of mine took a tour package & part of it is a trip to shensen, an economic area located between the border of HK and China. meron mga business establishments dyan. tapos yun pala dapat bumili ka ng kahit ano...ang nakakainis dito eh the travel agent does not disclose that information!

mag-ingat na lang tayo mga ka-tf! sa hirap ng buhay, marami na talagang ganyan ngayon! kung anu-anong pakulo para lang makabenta. kulang na lang eh tutukan ka ng baril or balisong....

ganun talaga, minsan, lessons are learned the hard way!

[sharja]

Thanks to All!
Nakakatulong talaga to talk this thing over here, kahit nakakahiya that nangyari ito considering that I've been around. Tawanan nga dito sa bahay dahil bakit ako naloko, na hindi ko naman kailangan yong mga product. Kaya, buti pa sa farm na lang ako at mag harvest ng kamoti.
Hi Great Barrier,
Tama ka, kahit saan, kailangan talaga ingat. Hindi pwede patanga tanga.
Thermometer, yong credit card company they still have to invistigate, kaya lang dahil nangyari yung transaction dito, it is better talaga sa source mangaling yong reversal. I know I can fight it with my bank for as long as it takes, but I also want this people to learn their lesson. The fact that they fraudulently presented me a sales pitch in front of my kids.
Aprilluck, thanks mag enjoy pa rin ako sa farm na lang ako mamasyal, at least doon,presko ang gulay.
DJchot,
that is why, we fought to have the reversal done at AOWA store. Mahirap na mag dispute sa charges later, esp, foriegn charges.
Miles,
Ganoon ng a yon, sa simula talagang duda ako, kaya lang para akong na hypnotise kaya ako, nahiya na galit kung bakit nangyari yon.
I still believe that there are free things. I've been lucky, like after the lion king movie, I went to this mall only because my car was being service accross the street, then pinakuha ako ng number, There was a drawing for prizes , I won the second prize which was the original lion king cell, then somebody offered to buy it from me for $300.00 this was in 1994, of course I still have the cell. Believe me, marami pa rin libre sa US.

[docomo]

@sharja

.. Thanks for sharing this .. magandang reminder to para sa lahat.:)