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jhunex
07-26-2006, 01:19 AM
This teachings are excerpted from the speeches of Reverend Sun Myung Moon.
The family is an educational "textbook" for building relationships with the heavenly kingdom. When applied to a nation, patriots will rise. When applied to the world, saints will come forth. Centering on heaven and earth, we become saints as well as God's sons and daughters. All humanity has that desire.-RSMM
Our parents at home and our teachers at educational institutions ought to be at the center of society. Parents breast-feed and rear us, that is, both physiologically and emotionally to guide our development. Similarly, schools train us with an as preparation for our social lives and futures. If the family is the training ground for our aesthetic sentiments, the school is the training ground for experiments in society.
The family is the place for training our hearts. Therefore, we have to love and live together with our brothers and sisters in schools and in the nation. Education from parents is education for the school, society and nation. Parents have to bequeath all emotional aspects to their children and succesors. They have to lay the emotional foundation for their offspring by demonstrating how they should live in the family, in the society, and for the nation, just as how the parents have been living.-RSMM
jhunex
07-27-2006, 01:17 AM
Parents who do not sleep out of love for their children are near heaven. Establishing an absolute foundation for the family, they declare that their family is a production base for manufacturing a heavenly family. You have to protect and educate your children in such a way that they too go on to manufacture such a happy family.-RSMM
A model foothold for building the earthly Kingdom of Heaven is the family. The fact that God could not make a textbook for teaching humanity to become His true sons and daughters has always been His deep sorrow because man fell. When could He teach humankind to be His true children? You have to understand this has remained as an unrealized hope. Next, the fact that He could not write a manual for teaching mankind to erect a world of love is also a cause of bitterness. The guidebook on how siblings should live was not produced. Born as His children, Adam and Eve should have grown up as brother and sister, and made a textbook for their siblings. Subsequently when they became man and wife, they should have made another textbook for married couples. After they became father and mother, they should have made yet one further book on traditions for parents. They failed to do that, so there are no such handbooks at present. There should be a total of four textbooks.-RSMM
The family is a place for both education and training through true love. Children must be grounded in the fundamental teachings. Then the siblings, couples and parents must also receive the appropriate education. These are the Four Great Principles.-RSMM
jhunex
07-30-2006, 02:24 AM
What is the system of an ideal world? Its basic unit is the family. The family is the base of heavenly kingdom, and the cornerstone for building the heavenly kingdom. No matter how large the population of citizens is, a person who confronts his nation with a love that extends beyond the family can travel freely in the heavenly kingdom. You must have a mind like such a person, to receive education at home as in the textbook. The grandparents, parents, couple and children live in the family. If these are extended to the world, there will be people in the same age groups as the grandparents, parents, couple and children. Hence, a person who has experienced love in his family, as in the textbook, faces no hindrances anywhere in the world. He is qualified since he has lived according to the book. Such a man has no need to worry about food or lodging in any house. Such a time will come if only this kind of education is carried out.
I seem to be speaking of the remotest possibility. Try it, and see whether I am telling you a fairy tale. I am teaching you to adapt yourselves to that world. The family is therefore the elementary textbook. If you live as taught in the family, there won't be international borders or any other types of obstacles blocking you. With that heart, even closed doors or blocked walls will heartily welcome you with outstreched arms by opening themselves up. Grassland will respond to you in the same way. I sound crazy, don't I? It is the same for God. If He tries to teach His children, saying,"Since the ideal of love is so great, you must love everyone and everything more than your own lives!" They will reply,"How about you, God?" Then God must be able to say,"You have to do that, just as I have." The reason is that He cannot teach us something that He cannot fulfill Himself. When He says,"I myself have endeavored to be absolutely obedient to love, so your couple must be submissive to love even at the cost of your lives, and walk a path of helping and living for others!" If they answer in the positive, contradictory logic on the front, back, left, right, up and down will be utterly resolved. Thus, God is also unconditionally submissive to love....
The restoration of the elder son's right, the parent's right, and kingship is first. After having restored the elder son's right, you become the citizen of a new nation. Centering on the family, you have to experience, with your heart, the educational content of the four great textbooks. Next, based on the system of the ideal world, if a person applies the living environment of the family to the nation, the living environment of the nation to the world, the living environment of the world to the cosmos, and the living environment of the cosmos to God, nothing will ever block him. He will receive a red-carpet reception in the physical and spiritual worlds. - RSMM
jhunex
08-01-2006, 11:35 PM
The family is a place for training us to be a perfectly qualified candidate in the afterlife. Who is the owner of the family? He is the one who loves his family members most. Likewise, who is the owner of today's world? Taking heaven as a large family, he must be the one who loves all humanity living on this earth most. Don't the white people think they alone are the superior race? That is not right. If only the West exist without the East, it is tantamount to saying there is no West. The East and the West are relative and complementary to each other. - RSMM
You have to be cognizant of the fact that the family is the main training ground. When my wife and I got married, we promised each other not to cry in front of our children. Children are innocent. No matter how indignant or mortified we may be, when our kids come to greet us the next morning, we have to wipe off the tears from our eyes as soon as we open the door, and put on a smile on our faces like the previous day. The children's mother must hug and make them kiss her, and then ask them to kiss their father. Are there woman who can do that? Children come first to their mother's bosom. She must not hesitate to embrace them like yesterday and make them kiss her, and then tell them to kiss their father. Or both the parents may kiss their children while hugging them. That kind of education is necessary in the family. Unless you can hardly see your children in a lifetime, you must not shed tears before them, and leave behind an indelible trace or a heartrending countenance in their impressionable mind. If there is such a likelihood, everything will return to nothingness. - RSMM
What are earthly families? They function as factories to re-create men for the heavenly kingdom.
Children will pick up things and know God naturally. Due to the human Fall, humanity became ignorant of the fundamental truth and has to be taught about God and His existence. - RSMM
jhunex
08-04-2006, 07:01 PM
The smallest unit of the fruition of God's love is the family. It therefore becomes man's expectation of happiness, ideal and life. This is also the reason why I have been speaking about family values and holding international marriage blessing ceremonies for the sake of ideal families throughout my life. - RSMM
The family is the most significant school of love. Through education in love and heart that parents can give their children within the sphere of the family, their hearts grow in depth and breadth. The family is the foundation stone for building the character of our children, and the school for teaching them love and virtue. Receiving education on the intellectual, physical and technical aspects on the foundation of emotional and normative education is the heavenly way. - RSMM
Our family has to be located in the root holy ground. As it is situated at the world's central position as well as the root holy ground, we can shout, "The owner of the root holy ground is my family! The owner of the original holy ground and the holy ground of victory is also my family!" This is possible owing to God and our succeeding to the vertical and horizontal victorious foundation restored through True Parent's indemnity and toil. Based on all relationships and the family education for the tribe, nation and world, the time to start organizing the world's tribes and the time of hope for the world has come at last! - RSMM
jhunex
08-07-2006, 12:08 AM
Who are your children? they are the ones who teach you how much God loves mankind and let you have that experience. Through them, you come to feel God's tremendous joy when Adam and Eve were born in the garden of Eden. Loving them is experiencing the immense joy of God when He created our human ancestors. As you have to love your children in the same position as God, you have to give birth to your own sons and daughters. The first person in history to teach about that humankind can go the proper way is none other than Rev. Moon himself. You cannot receive God's love by or for yourself. A man and woman have to be completely one with a love that is of greater value than their own lives. Love precedes life. God's love will descend to the place where they can unite with a love that is greater than their lives. - RSMM
You have to treat your children like princes and princesses, and your parents like the king and queen. This is the family law of heaven. Can there be fighting in the family?... The underlying philosophy of the family is to exist for the sake of others. If not, peace will not come about. All nations have to follow my teachings as the eternal truth. You have been living and doing things for your own selves. I can completely reverse this situation with education from the fundamentals, the root. - RSMM
The future kingship will be handed over to your descendants. You must have the heart of bringing up your grandson to be the king of a big nation before your future tribes. Do you want to give birth to, educate and raise your children to be successful in the world? Isn't the desire of all parents and nations to have their children be in the position of true parents, true teachers and true owners the moment they come to the world? Your children are future emperors and empresses. - RSMM
jhunex
08-12-2006, 06:52 AM
Adam and Eve were originally a prince and princess. God's bitterness is that He was unable to teach them how to live as a prince and princess. This has to be resolved. As God's children, they did not receive such education directly from God Himself. They had also not been taught to live as brother and sister. If they had, the whole world would have been unified, based on the brotherhood and sisterhood of all nations.... Based on the eldest grandson with the elder son's right, brothers spread horizontally when they form tribes and nations and expand to the world. Similarly, original mankind, who has experienced the heart of the royal family and lived in the heavenly palace, is destined to enter the heavenly kingdom. Not everybody can go to the Kingdom of Heaven. Why could Jesus Christ not make it to Heaven, remaining instead in Paradise? Jesus, who was in the position to represent perfected Adam, could not establish the proper relationship between brothers and sisters, husbands and wives, parents and children on this earth with education of prince and princess. Since he had breathed his last on the cross before he could indemnify all these things, the heavenly gate cannot open if he does not reappear. This task has been prolonged to the age of the Second coming. In Jesus' stead, Rev. Moon establishes and teaches the duty of a prince and princess. Do you now know what you have to do? As God's children, you have to experience the heart of princes and princesses. - RSMM
jhunex
08-20-2006, 01:01 AM
Your grandfather is your first God; your parent is your second God; and your sons and daughters are your third God. That is why I ask you to love your children as you do God. There was no way to teach this in the garden of Eden. You, however, can get hold of the original textbook that guides you about this. Anyone who reads this book with half eye open can understand it as clear as day. Without becoming the royal tribe of heaven, you can never make it to the original heavenly kingdom. The platform for the living environment that can teach this like the original textbook is your family. - RSMM
The family is the root. The nation is not the root. The worldwide issue today is the family. The problem of the nation overlaps with the problem of the family. If the family problem is settled, the national problem can then be cleared up. The family refers to the grandparents, parents, husband and wife, and children. As the pattern for the nation, the family can be called the base of hope that has to be acknowledged by the world. Why is the family a base? That is where love settles. - RSMM
mahalkita
08-23-2006, 10:12 AM
Well, sad to say that, its the same reason I stop believing in true love.
jhunex
08-27-2006, 01:43 AM
What kind of life should those of you seeking the original Eden live in the future? Modeling your lives after Jesus and searching for the elements of cosmic and heavenly happiness, you have to be a substantial body of glory before God; a true man and true woman who can introduce God's happiness, love and glory wherever you are; and at the same time be able to teach others to feel grateful to God. - RSMM
Everybody desires to have a wonderful son. To bring him up to be somebody great, how should you educate him? Some say they may nurture him in an area where there are many schools, from the kindergarten to university level. Education is required throughout a lifetime, though. You have to set up prayer conditions to raise him well. When you appoint your son to take charge of the family or clan as your successor, it is the usual custom to train him to acquire the same level of hearts as yours and to follow your example. - RSMM
As parents, when you educate your own children, you should not teach them to love you only. You must tell them, "I'm a loyal citizen and patriot who deeply loves this nation. I wish to be a parent to patriots and loyal citizens." - RSMM
To accomplish His Will, you have to serve and attend God in your heart. A responsible parent must not haphazardly, but concretely, teach his children to walk the right path. Who will restore the lost original family? Every individual has to. You yourself have to be in unison with God and with your children. Finding and teaching your spiritual children, you have to raise them to be children of faith who can walk this path in your place. Only then will a perfect foundation for the Sabbath be established. If this standard is set in your generation, you can stand in a position greater than Jesus'. - RSMM
jhunex
09-01-2006, 10:31 PM
If parents teach their children that they cannot live apart from them, that family will perish. However, a family that teaches its children not to separate themselves from their society and nation will flourish. "Since I'm a butcher, I expect you to be one too when you grow up." "I'm a merchant, so you'd better be good at trading." A family dispensing such education will go to the dogs. Every parent has to teach his child to be somebody great in his or her country. The world today is approaching us. The period of teaching your children to be famous in the nation has already passed. Now you have to teach them to be world figures. Live in this world! - RSMM
How do parents traditionally inculcate their growing children with their ideals and philosophies? That is the question. Toiling six thousand years for the providence of restoration, how does God pull His children out of the satanic world? Similarly, how do you teach your offspring in the fallen world? You have to deal with these two crosses. - RSMM
The search for one nation has to begin from the individual. How much we do have to cherish him! When he establishes a family, and it takes the place of the nation and world, we have to dearly love his family and attach great importance to it. centering on your beloved children, you have to establish a new tribe separated from Satan. In a parental position, you have to establish a family that makes an all-out effort to elevate its fortune in relationship. With all your heart and might, you have to live a life of loving and teaching. From the educational aspect, I live to show my son and daughter the way they have to go, to build a foundation of happiness for them and a foundation of welfare for the nation. Living for that higher purpose is something solemn and noble, and that becomes the origin of a new world. Our responsibility as God's children will commence only if we can regard that as more valuable than anything else in the cosmos. What a wonderful life it is! - RSMM
mOtt_erU
09-06-2006, 02:54 PM
hi jhunex san...Very well said..
Our parents ,--...from them we first felt the feeling of being LOved.
and so with our Siblings....so undeniably it is within the family that we first feel the LOve
jhunex
09-06-2006, 10:13 PM
hi jhunex san...Very well said..
Hi!:)
Thank you very much for your post.
Yes, True Love gives joyfully.
We find it in the joyful and loving heart of a mother who cradles her baby in her arms and nurses it at her breast. - RSMM
True Love is sacrificial love as with a devoted son who gains his greatest satisfaction in helping his parents. - RSMM
jhunex
09-07-2006, 06:23 PM
You must have your own educational materials for teaching your children this way, saying, "My beloved sons and daughters! Don't be indebted to your parents, brothers and sisters, and your neighbors. I have made so much effort not to owe anybody anything in my lifetime that my hands are crooked and the skin of my hands has become horsehide." Your son would be punished if he were to say, "Dad, your hands have become like this because you live for the sake of the neighbors and for others. I don't want to see them!" - RSMM
What must parents do? In addition to teaching their children to love their parents and siblings, you must also tell them, "I love my country as much as I love you, so you also have to love your country this much." They will understand it straight away. No other education is necessary. "Yes! As my father, my family and I live this way, all American families, American citizens and the American president live this way, too. My patriotic family lays the nationwide and worldwide foundation for our nation."
When the president says, "Our people now stand united. Let's beat up this enemy," you should be able to abandon anything if Americans have achieved oneness. You have to tell your children, "The president's words are higher than my command. In order to pledge our loyalty to our nation, you and I have to walk the path of death together if it encounters any difficulty. - RSMM
Since you have raised children before, you can love with the experience of being able to love all people regardless of age or sex through that family. Isn't this a world closer to a more rewarding ideal world instead od a world of relations where men and women can momentarily love each other? So the family is a training ground for introducing an ideal world. - RSMM
jhunex
09-09-2006, 11:08 PM
You give birth to and live for your children so as to learn to embrance and love the whole world. They are connected to the world and the future. Without them, there is no way to link to the future. You have to realize that God gives us children as a method of teaching that can link us to the future world. Next, your ancestors and grandparents are for teaching you about the spirit world. That system is established in the incorporeal world to educate you about the afterlife. No matter how violent the waves are, you have to erect a dike that cannot collapse. No matter how strong the gale blows, you have to build a high mountain that cannot collapse. You have to lead the world with such educational materials, otherwise the world cannot survive. Rev. Moon thus founded worldwide organizations such as the Professors World Peace Academy (PWPA) and has strong ties with the world's leading scholars.
What kind of person is God? Becoming a loving servant, He descends to earth to embrace humanity. As humanity does not know this, God is teaching mankind. Satan frequently tries to destroy fallen men. Implementing a new educational system, God Himself is directly teaching men about His love. - RSMM
Prior to social or national education, there should be family education. Prior to family education, personal education is necessary. The primary personal education is not knowledge; neither is it authority or money. What is something great that can move history and the world, but that cannot be bought with money? True love. In front of true love, the more you become a servant or a slave, the more excited you will be. - RSMM
What is the privilege of your children? Who is higher, the father, mother, son or daughter? Of course the father is. Between the mother and son, who is higher? This problem will be a historic problem for the world in future family education. In the Eastern tradition, a woman has to excuse her presence when her husband and son are discussing national or world affairs. When told to leave the room, how annoyed she must feel. This is Oriental philosophy. Why does she not stage a demonstration? The man is the seed and the woman is the field. The father, and not the mother, is connected to the seed. Therefore, when the seeds meet to discuss important matters, it is not a right of the field to lend a helping hand. - RSMM
All parents like to treat their children equally. It is a greater sin to hate your brothers than to hate your mother. Are American families like that? Is this the first time you have heard this? This is Article 1 of family education. - RSMM
jhunex
09-17-2006, 05:57 AM
The origin of the kingdom is the family. You have to turn the family the other way round, based on true love. Even in the family, the second generation has to get into action. Young people are being destroyed by the day. They have been cornered in a hotbed of drugs. Shot by the devil's arrows, they indulge themselves with abandon in premarital sex. Gathering from every village, young people will band together to assist the police in the elimination of evil gangs in the community. If scoundrels appear in the village, the time has come for the second generation to shoulder the responsibility to drive them away and to educate the villagers, together with their parents. Your family now becomes one of hope. Those preparing to meet the coming of an ideological world where the foundation of peace can be expanded from your own family to the world are sagacious citizens who can receive abundant blessings in the future. - RSMM
The universe is the expansion of the grandparents, parents, couple and children to the North, South, East and West. The family is an ideal paradigm that unifies all love, so it is like a textbook. You have to enlarge all concepts of love to the world that apply to the family. To the world's elders, who are about the same age as your grandparents, you have to show respect as you would your real grandparents, regardless of race. To people who are about the same age as your parents, you must extend your love as you would to your own parents at home. That type of person can possess and inherit the territory of the Kingdom of Heaven on earth and in heaven. Just as a couple mutually loves each other; you must equalize the heart of loving all men and women, and equalize the love for your children worldwide. The person who can appropriately apply the educational method through which his or her family is as a textbook to the entire world becomes a prince or princess of the love of God, the center of the world. - RSMM
Thanks to Rev. Moon, you have become heavenly citizens. In the same way, in order that your sons and daughters can become the citizens of Heaven, you have to educate them to be people whom you can take along to heaven and live together with, even at the cost of your lives. They are your assets. Systematizing that, you have to teach your children. Only then will they go to the same place as you. - RSMM
jhunex
09-24-2006, 08:48 PM
The way to heaven for a person who has the heart of attendance, such as serving his grandparents in his family, is not blocked. The textbook is necessary for the unified educational foundation and behavioral unification of all nations. It teaches us to think of the aged as our own grandfathers and grandmothers. When you see an old man coming into an eating house at lunch who looks as if he has no money on him, you should be kind and treat him as well as your own grandparent. That grandparent has lived longer than you. If he owes you a debt, he will surely repay you. Therefore, if you live for others, you will be blessed, for there is no loss in investing, based on love. - RSMM
Looking from the vertical standard, your grandfather stands in God's position, Adam and Eve stand in the father's position and you represent the future prince. You have to serve your grandfather who appears horizontally in the family in place of God. This is the principle of family education. - RSMM
The family has to be strict. Parents have to be responsible for taking care of and educating their children so that they are not influenced by the satanic world in any matter. Free sex, homosexuality and lesbianism are rampant in America. They are Satan's plots and snares. You have to expose Satan's territory in the final showdown. You have to turn the tide by going in the exact opposite direction, for that is the heavenly way. It is natural for a person like me to face the world's antagonism. - RSMM
D'sailor
09-25-2006, 02:09 PM
This teachings are excerpted from the speeches of Reverend Sun Myung Moon.
The family is an educational "textbook" for building relationships with the heavenly kingdom. When applied to a nation, patriots will rise. When applied to the world, saints will come forth. Centering on heaven and earth, we become saints as well as God's sons and daughters. All humanity has that desire.-RSMM
Our parents at home and our teachers at educational institutions ought to be at the center of society. Parents breast-feed and rear us, that is, both physiologically and emotionally to guide our development. Similarly, schools train us with an as preparation for our social lives and futures. If the family is the training ground for our aesthetic sentiments, the school is the training ground for experiments in society.
The family is the place for training our hearts. Therefore, we have to love and live together with our brothers and sisters in schools and in the nation. Education from parents is education for the school, society and nation. Parents have to bequeath all emotional aspects to their children and succesors. They have to lay the emotional foundation for their offspring by demonstrating how they should live in the family, in the society, and for the nation, just as how the parents have been living.-RSMM
hmmn...interisting topic:)
jhunex
05-08-2008, 12:15 AM
Bequeath your children the legacy of a life well lived. We are toiling assiduously all over the world in order to leave behind something worthwhile for posterity. You will be able to recount to them with much pride, "I've worked under extremely adverse conditions..." providing them with valuable educational content. Your lifetime is your only opportunity to perpetuate that tradition through your descendants. You must take the unchanging and eternal tradition most seriously. - RSMM
Parents should be able to stand in God's stead, teaching their children, "Love your brothers and sisters, your neighbors, your nation and the world more than you love us." Only those who do this deserve to be called true parents. Why? It is the only way for children to improve themselves and achieve greatness centering on goodness. - RSMM
Leave three things behind when you die. First, live a principle-centered life of following God's Will. Second, raise up your offspring to become better than you. Third, bequeath the education itself that you imparted to your children for them to achieve greatness. Those are your three responsibilities. - RSMM
jhunex
05-12-2008, 12:47 AM
When educating your children, think of how to educate them to become the people who will do their best for God's Will. Bear that in mind even when nursing your babies. - RSMM
In the past, noble families trained their children not to speak carelessly, and to speak only when spoken to. Such manners are also required in our life of faith. - RSMM
You may not be perfect in everything but at least you can be correct in your basic attitude. This attitude of love is what you will leave to your children when you die. This tradition will be passed down within your family from one generation to the next. You can tell your children that this message is the most precious thing you could give them. Show them that they too are to embody this tradition and bequeath it in turn to their children. When you practice this truth, the entire universe will open up for you. God and the whole spirit world will rejoice with you. When you live this truth, you will have nothing to be ashamed of before the greatest men and women in history; you can loved God and humankind more intensely than anyone ever has. - RSMM
jhunex
05-13-2008, 08:06 PM
Your children must be in a position to say, "Our parents have the ability to work for God's Will under any circumstance. They can overcome time constraints, the environment and poverty."
Your children ought to be able to trust you. Establish the tradition in your family that your children will do whatever you ask them. They will say it is the way set by their parents and the way they will go.
Please set the standard of educating your descendants. - RSMM
jhunex
05-30-2008, 12:38 AM
Love your children. It is neither easy being somebody's mother or father, nor is it a trifling matter giving birth to children. You need to know that children are born to fulfill their cosmic destiny. Anchor your children to the love existing between you and your spouse, which is firmly embedded in the law of God's eternal true love, with the vertical love of heaven and the horizontal love of earth fused into oneness. If you did not conceive your children under those auspices, you must repent. If your children go astray, you should first repent before you think of punishing them. Follow this method in educating your children. Being a parent is an arduous task. Don't live thoughtlessly. - RSMM
jhunex
05-30-2008, 01:06 AM
We have to provide quality education to our youth, particularly taking into account that Adam and Eve fell while in their teens. Let us nurture them in developing moral conviction, the ability to meet life's daily challenges, and a sense of responsibility for the betterment of society as a whole. Let us educate them to become people of integrity. - RSMM
jhunex
06-03-2008, 01:13 AM
Husbands: do not be dishonorable before your wives. They are God's emissaries. So too are your children. They were sent to watch and guide you as closely as possible to the right path.
Fathers: do not be dishonorable before your children. Do not feed God's emissaries with stolen money. Can you serve God by cheating others? Can you serve your own ancestors that way?
If you live dishonorably, your ancestors in the other world will judge you as soon as you go there. God will not judge you.
Your ancestors will judge you and haul you before the worldwide court justice. If they do not, then they are no good.
It is terribly serious when we contemplate having to build the future foundation of hope conforming to heavenly law within our lifetime. - RSMM
jhunex
06-25-2008, 12:47 AM
Teach your children to live more for the world than their nation. I teach people to become saints for the world rather than just to be patriots for the nation, and that the way of sainthood includes principles of good governance. Thus, people learn how to become princes and princesses of a heavenly nation. - RSMM (http://www.reverendsunmyung moon.org)
jhunex
08-12-2008, 08:35 AM
The family is most crucial. No power on earth, whether national, economic, cultural, educational or religious can counter the scourge of family breakdown and juvenile promiscuity. That prerogative belongs to True Parents. Neither God can intervene, nor can Satan reverse the debilitating effects of his own perverse acts. Just as God could not intervene in the garden of Eden, He cannot intervene in this world. Who can intervene? Only True Parents can intervene. Who can indemnify all the ills, destruction and repair the ruined paths of love wrought by false parents? Only True Parents vested with full powers to transcend all things, to pervade all things and to perform all things can do this. No one else. - RSMM (http://www.reverendsunmyung moon.org)
jhunex
08-13-2008, 12:29 AM
You should be parents who can influence your own children. That is your primary mission. You should lead your church life and public life with utmost sincerity and be exemplary in your private life. This is absolutely necessary for your children to follow the way of God's Will. - RSMM (http://www.reverendsunmyung moon.org)
jhunex
08-19-2008, 12:13 AM
Make your children people who live for the sake of their nation rather than just for the sake of their church. True parents raise their children by the power of their own living example. Teach your children on the basis of love. If you live such a life, God can never leave you and you will exude an uncanny mystique that will naturally draw people to you. - RSMM (http://www.reverendsunmyung moon.org)
artagnan
08-19-2008, 12:54 PM
The family is the best place to learn true love
hindi bat mas matuwid na sabihin na
A family is one of the places to learn true love?
kung gagamitin natin ang definite article na "THE" meaning wala ka ng ibang pagkukunan o pagmumulan para malaman ang pagibig...
gumamit pa ng BEST... hindi bat mas magandang sabihin na ANG DIOS ANG PINAKA THE BEST para matuto ng tunay ng PAGIBIG??
kung magiging tama itong sinabi ni MOON, lalabas mali ang PANGINOONG JESUS sa sinabi niya sa:
Mat 10:34 Huwag ninyong isiping ako'y naparito upang magdala ng kapayapaan sa lupa: hindi ako naparito upang magdala ng kapayapaan, kundi tabak.
Mat 10:35 Sapagka't ako'y naparito upang papagalitin ang lalake laban sa kaniyang ama, at ang anak na babae laban sa kaniyang ina, at ang manugang na babae laban sa kaniyang biyanang babae:
Mat 10:36 At ang magiging kaaway ng tao ay ang kaniya ring sariling kasangbahay.
confusing naman itong sinabi ni moon... iba sa turo ng PANGINOONG JESUS...
itanong mo ulit kay moon kung saan ba tunay na matututo ng tunay na pagibig...
:)
jhunex
08-19-2008, 09:17 PM
The family is the best place to learn true love
hindi bat mas matuwid na sabihin na
A family is one of the places to learn true love?
kung gagamitin natin ang definite article na "THE" meaning wala ka ng ibang pagkukunan o pagmumulan para malaman ang pagibig...
gumamit pa ng BEST... hindi bat mas magandang sabihin na ANG DIOS ANG PINAKA THE BEST para matuto ng tunay ng PAGIBIG??
Then, please make a new thread about "ANG DIOS ANG PINAKA THE BEST para matuto ng tunay ng PAGIBIG"....so that we may know it and teach it to our children.:)
kung magiging tama itong sinabi ni MOON, lalabas mali ang PANGINOONG JESUS sa sinabi niya sa:
Please don't compare Rev. Moon with our Lord Jesus Christ...please ask Jesus if this is true (http://www.trueloveking.net/index-9.html) and pray to God with sincere heart like Anna(Lk.2:36~38) and Simeon(Lk.2:25~32), who recognized the messiah (http://www.trueloveking.net/)
confusing naman itong sinabi ni moon... iba sa turo ng PANGINOONG JESUS...
Please don't be confuse, let the Spirit of God works on you (1Cor. 3:16):)
"I did not come to tell you what you already know," Reverend Moon has said, "but to give a new revelation from God."
artagnan
08-20-2008, 10:01 AM
Please don't compare Rev. Moon with our Lord Jesus Christ...please ask Jesus if this is true and pray to God with sincere heart like Anna(Lk.2:36~38) and Simeon(Lk.2:25~32), who recognized the messiah
you are saying na messiah si moon?
"I did not come to tell you what you already know," Reverend Moon has said, "but to give a new revelation from God."
ibig mo bang sabihin may bagong revelation ang DIOS? at ang nasa biblia kulang?
jhunex
08-20-2008, 11:11 PM
Hi:)
you are saying na messiah si moon?
it's not a matter of proclamation, it's a matter of recognition.
If you pray with the same pure heart as Anna the prophetess, Jesus can come to you as He did to the Apostles after the resurrection.:)
ibig mo bang sabihin may bagong revelation ang DIOS? at ang nasa biblia kulang?
God's dispensation is not complete and that is why we are all waiting for the Second Coming.
Christ returns to complete the course of restoration (Acts 3:21) and to fulfill the dispensation of salvation (Hebrews 9:28, 1Peter 1:5).
When this is done, we will have regained the right to eat from the Tree of Life which was lost by Adam and Eve (Rev. 2:7).:)
Could you kindly make a new thread about "ANG DIOS ANG PINAKA THE BEST para matuto ng tunay ng PAGIBIG", so that we may know it and teach it to our children.:halo:
artagnan
08-21-2008, 12:28 PM
it's not a matter of proclamation, it's a matter of recognition.
If you pray with the same pure heart as Anna the prophetess,
Jesus can come to you as
He did to the Apostles after the resurrection.
tinatanong nga kita kung si moon ba messiah..at sabi mo
may bagong revelation ang DIOS kay moon..
ibig mo bang sabihin na kulang ang biblia?kulang ang turo sa biblia?
God's dispensation is not complete and that
is why we are all waiting for the Second Coming.
ibig sabihin isang beses lang dumating ang PANGINOONG
JESUS sa mundo? sabi mo kasi wa are all waiting for THE SECOND COMING
..
or nagkakamali ka lang, pwede mong i rephrase yan...
Could you kindly make a new thread about "ANG DIOS ANG PINAKA THE BEST
para matuto ng tunay ng
PAGIBIG", so that we may know it and teach it to our children.
matutuo ang tao sa thread na ginawa mo... we dont need another thread
1Jn 4:8 Ang hindi umiibig ay hindi
nakakakilala sa Dios; sapagka't ang Dios ay pagibig.
1Jn 4:10 Narito ang pagibig, hindi sa tayo'y umibig sa Dios,
kundi siya ang umibig sa atin, at sinugo ang
kaniyang Anak na pangpalubagloob sa ating mga kasalanan.
1Jn 4:16 At ating nakilala at ating sinampalatayanan ang pagibig ng
Dios sa atin. Ang Dios ay pagibig; at ang nananahan
sa pagibig ay nananahan sa Dios, at ang Dios ay nananahan sa kaniya.
ang sabi mo, TUNAY NA PAGIBIG, ngayon, para malaman mo ang tunay
na pagibig, dapat mong makilala muna ang DIOS.. at sa mga
aral ng DIOS matututo ka ng tunay na pagibig, hindi ng pagibig lang...
turuan mo ang anak mo ng mga aral at salita ng DIOS, at matututo
rin siya ng TUNAY NA PAGIBIG...
dahil ang ibang kahulugan ng pagibig na tinuro ng biblia ay ito
1Co 13:4 Ang pagibig ay mapagpahinuhod, at magandang-loob; ang pagibig ay hindi nananaghili; ang pagibig ay hindi nagmamapuri, hindi mapagpalalo.
1Co 13:5 Hindi naguugaling mahalay, hindi hinahanap ang kaniyang sarili, hindi nayayamot, hindi inaalumana ang masama;
1Co 13:6 Hindi nagagalak sa kalikuan, kundi nakikigalak sa katotohanan;
1Co 13:7 Lahat ay binabata, lahat ay pinaniniwalaan, lahat ay inaasahan, lahat ay tinitiis.
1Co 13:8 Ang pagibig ay hindi nagkukulang kailan man:
kahit maging mga hula, ay mangatatapos; maging mga wika, ay titigil:
maging kaalaman, ay mawawala.
hindi magkukulang ang pagibig... isa yan sa TUNAY NA PAGIBIG na hindi
matututuhan sa loob ng PAMILYA.. kundi sa DIOS... yan ang
TUNAY na PAGIBIG kaibigan...
artagnan
08-21-2008, 01:18 PM
Adam and
Eve were originally a prince and princess.
God's bitterness is that He was unable to teach them how to live as
a prince and princess.
saang libro ng biblia nakuha ni moon ito?? GOD`s bitternes?
hindi niya naituro kay adam at eba kung papaano mamuhay sa eden kaya
nagkasala sila?
so lumalabas kasalanan ng DIOS kung bakit nagkasala sila adan at eba dahil hindi "kamo" naituro ng DIOS kung papaano mamuhay ng pagiging prinsipe at prinsesa ng dalawa sa eden?
iyang aral na yan ang ituturo mo sa anak mo?
Why could Jesus
Christ not make it to Heaven, remaining instead in Paradise? Jesus,
who was in the position to represent perfected Adam, could not
establish the proper relationship between brothers and sisters,
husbands and wives, parents and children on this earth with
education of prince and princess. Since he had breathed his last
on the cross before he could indemnify all these things,
nauunawaan mo ba ito?could not
establish the proper relationship between brothers and sisters,
husbands and wives, parents and children on this earth with
education of prince and princess.
maaring tama si moon, na hindi nagturo ng pagiging dakila o pagiging prinsipe o prinsesa sa mundo ang PANGINOONG JESUS
kailanman hindi nagturo ang PANGINOONG JESUS ng pagiging buhay prinsesa at prinsipe sa mga TUNAY NA CRISTIANO, ang turo ng PANGINOONG JESUS eto...
fil 2:3 Na huwag ninyong gawin ang anoman sa pamamagitan ng pagkakampikampi o sa pamamagitan ng pagpapalalo, kundi sa kababaan ng pagiisip, na ipalagay ng bawa't isa ang iba na lalong mabuti kay sa kaniyang sarili;
pero para paratangan ni moon na ;
Jesus,
who was in the position to represent perfected Adam, could not
establish the proper relationship between brothers and sisters,
husbands and wives, parents and children on this earth
nagkakamali iyang moon na yan...
iyan ang ituturo mo sa mga anak mo? ipinapalabas mo na mas magaling mag turo si moon kaysa sa PANGINOONG JESUS?
dahil sabi ni moon
Rev. Moon establishes and teaches the duty
of a prince and princess. Do you now know what you have to do?
As God's children, you have to experience the heart of princes
and princesses.
at si moon ang makakapagturo sa mga anak mo at sa iyo ng buhay prinsipe at prinsesa...
at hindi lang pala iyon, mas magaling pa pala sa DIOS ang pastor mo kasi sa libro niya ang sabi eto
Adam and
Eve were originally a prince and princess.
God's bitterness is that He was unable to teach them how to live as
a prince and princess. This has to be resolved.
magisip naman kayo, walang mas mabuti, at mas marunong sa DIOS,
at ang lahat ng salitang sasalitain natin, ipagsusulit natin yan sa DIOS...
Mat 12:36 At sinasabi ko sa inyo, na ang bawa't salitang walang kabuluhang sabihin ng mga tao ay ipagsusulit nila sa araw ng paghuhukom.
jhunex
08-21-2008, 09:38 PM
matutuo ang tao sa thread na ginawa mo... we dont need another thread
.
ok, thank you very much:)
artagnan
08-22-2008, 10:58 AM
alam ko, na matatalino ang mga tao ngayon, at hindi na basta basta madadaya ng kung sino man,
i tried reading ung post mo, and i believe na libro ito ni moon, i hope im not mistaken, pero, wala yata akong nakita kahit na isang verse sa bible?
its kinda weird, na isang pastor.. hindi gumagamit ng verses sa biblia...
well what can i say, may bago nga palang revelation ang DIOS sa kaniya...
my mistake... at siguro hindi na niya kailangan ng mga verses sa biblia, after all, si moon nga pala ang magtuturo sa mga tao ng buhay prinsipe at prinsesa na hindi na ituro ng dios ni moon kay adan at eva...
Adam and Eve were originally a prince and princess. God's bitterness is that He was unable to teach them how to live as a prince and princess. This has to be resolved. As God's children, they did not receive such education directly from God Himself. They had also not been taught to live as brother and sister. If they had, the whole world would have been unified, based on the brotherhood and sisterhood of all nations.
jhunex
08-23-2008, 01:01 AM
Hi:)
alam ko, na matatalino ang mga tao ngayon, at hindi na basta basta madadaya ng kung sino man,
well what can i say, may bago nga palang revelation ang DIOS sa kaniya...
my mistake... at siguro hindi na niya kailangan ng mga verses sa biblia,
Thanks once again, for your understanding:)
Narito, sinusugo ko kayong katulad ng mga tupa sa gitna ng mga lobo. Kaya nga, magpakatalino kayong katulad ng mga ahas at maging maamong katulad ng mga kalapati.(Mateo 10:16)
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