Pulitika sa Opisina

[Tonyang]

Eto naman ang buhay sa opisina... pulitika rito, pulitika riyan. Ano ba talaga ang tunay na trabaho ng ilang kasama natin sa trabaho? Kung ikaw ay straight na walang alam sa pulitika, baka mahuli ka sa biyahe. Kung ikaw ay mahilig mamulitika, baka ikaw palagi ang sikat sa loob ng opisina. Which is which? Ano ba talaga ang dapat? Magulo di ba? Nakakasira ng ulo kung minsan kung papatulan pero kung iiwasan naman, parang ang layo ng mundo natin... hay hay hay... Kaya ating pag-usapan.

Any experiences you have? Why don't we talk about it? Sa mundong ginagalawan natin... I think mas madaling ma-predict ang mga galaw ng mga katrabahong Hapon... welcome one and all... Share na po tayo.:D

[ayanis-marie]

:)Dapat bang pag-usapan sa loob ng opisina about politika?
O sa break time at off time na? Depende sa ka-opisina o kaishia.
Kaishia dito,bawal mag-usap,unless out of work time na. pero
hindi naman IN sa topic about politika. May mga Hapon akong kasama,
sabihin mang huli ako sa biyahi,so what? I don't like politics naman.
Kung 'yan ang pag-uusapan,mas enjoy ako pag ang pag-uusapan
ay 'yong about sa 'visions about this company",'yong sharing namin
na by some years ay buhay pa ang kaishia na 'to.
I have roots about politics,last 2001 I just join a campaign for
my cousin who run for mayoryal election, and husband 's Uncle did
run also and win, pero sa kaishia wala,gomen Ka Tonyang,parang
out of topic ako,..

[infinite_trial]

hmmn ka tonyang..mukhang flamebait na naman ito ah.

[hayaren]

everywhere in the world, politics inside the office is not a strange news. it blends like the aroma of the brewed coffee we're sipping at a phase in the office. know how to play your cards and be always on the lookout sa mga 'sip-sip' or sorry for this langauge 'lickin' ass'

[mamimo]

Pulitika sa opisina kahit di maganda eh nanjan na yan, kung maging matapang ka sa pag-oppose para kang lumalangoy sa opposite direction ng wave. Nung nasa Pinas ako dami kong karanasan sa ganyan so nag-palipat lipat ako ng companies may law office, telecom, remittance company, etc etc. Sa lahat ng pinasukan ko meron nyan at kahit siguro ang anak ko in the near future yan din ang madadatnan nya at kelangan malaman nya pano makisayaw sa pulitika ng pag-oopisina.

[mamimo]

'lickin' ass'

perfect term for those sipsip:D :rolleyes:

[infinite_trial]

'lickin' ass'

di po ba kiss a$$? :confused:

sorry OT.

pero ka tonyang...please why are your topics lately focused on debate?
curious?
i know it's healthy to have a debate...but..hmnnn. ..the way i look at your post now may " :D " smiley pa..e mukhang natutuwa pa kayo?

[hayaren]

[quote=infinite_trial ;195176]di po ba kiss a$$? :confused:

widely used sa mga britons, 'lickin', may reserve ness ang 'kiss' na word eh, depende sa usage...'kiss' are commonly addressed to those guys flirting, annoying and stalking women

naki OT din po, sorry...huwag na tayong masyadong serious din it's just a debate nothing's personal

[infinite_trial]

widely used sa mga britons, 'lickin', may reserve ness ang 'kiss' na word eh, depende sa usage...'kiss' are commonly addressed to those guys flirting, annoying and stalking women

naki OT din po, sorry...huwag na tayong masyadong serious din it's just a debate nothing's personal

ah okay kasi brits use ar$ewipe from what i know...

as for office politics, hmnn alam ko sa pinoy lang yan uso. but sometimes you have to play the game...but only to build camarederie and not to step up the corporate ladder.

[hayaren]

ah okay kasi brits use ar$ewipe from what i know...

as for office politics, hmnn alam ko sa pinoy lang yan uso. but sometimes you have to play the game...but only to build camarederie and not to step up the corporate ladder.

IT, I know ang pagkasabi mo ng line which I underlined was formed out of your sincerity at work but not everywhere...sorry po I disagree di lahat relevant with your line kasi I work for a multi national firm, sa isang department namin may 2 egyptian nationals ang na-promote:confused: they got no brains naman all faint talk pero dahil nga 'lickin ass' sa isang amo namin, ayan umangat na walang ka-effort effort. magpakasaya sila ngayon, shortcuts can shorten their charade.

[infinite_trial]

IT, I know ang pagkasabi mo ng line which I underlined was formed out of your sincerity at work but not everywhere...sorry po I disagree di lahat relevant with your line kasi I work for a multi national firm, sa isang department namin may 2 egyptian nationals ang na-promote:confused: they got no brains naman all faint talk pero dahil nga 'lickin ass' sa isang amo namin, ayan umangat na walang ka-effort effort. magpakasaya sila ngayon, shortcuts can shorten their charade.

kaya nga sabi ko as i know....meaning based on mah experience. i haven't experienced workin in a multinational firm to know that office politics also exists there.

[hayaren]

kaya nga sabi ko as i know....meaning based on mah experience. i haven't experienced workin in a multinational firm to know that office politics also exists there.

OK, mas matindi ang politics pag multi national firm, it compromises of more than 10 nationalities...diff erent folks of different strokes, iba ibang diskarte sa pambobola, pagpapasipsip, maniwala ka sa hindi may kasama pang black magic

[infinite_trial]

OK, mas matindi ang politics pag multi national firm, it compromises of more than 10 nationalities...diff erent folks of different strokes, iba ibang diskarte sa pambobola, pagpapasipsip, maniwala ka sa hindi may kasama pang black magic

hmmnn...

this is just mah opinion...

sometimes we misunderstood those people and brand them "sipsip" even if they aren't. then we stop building a relationship wit our bosses cuz we are afraid to be labelled "sipsip". in mah experience, i had to play that game. not really suckin up to mah boss, but more on bein friendly. cuz sometimes they also want a break from work...want to chitchat...build camarederie. there are bosses who does not want to be treated as a boss.

[hayaren]

hmmnn...

this is just mah opinion...

sometimes we misunderstood those people and brand them "sipsip" even if they aren't. then we stop building a relationship wit our bosses cuz we are afraid to be labelled "sipsip". in mah experience, i had to play that game. not really suckin up to mah boss, but more on bein friendly. cuz sometimes they also want a break from work...want to chitchat...build camarederie. there are bosses who does not want to be treated as a boss.

you've got a point there, there's a need for us to be heard at work, there are times kailangan talagang to socialize with the bosses in a way we won't be misinterpreted, ang direct boss ko he does not like we look up to him as boss he prefers casual approach lang pero meron talagang tao they're pretty obvious sa paninira sa mga colleague patalikod. Pag bias din ang judgement ng ibang mga amo, there's somethin' fishy goin' on. Kaya nasa atin na how to dance our way meddling the mask-face colleagues we interact at work

[Tonyang]

di po ba kiss a$$? :confused:

sorry OT.

pero ka tonyang...please why are your topics lately focused on debate?
curious?
i know it's healthy to have a debate...but..hmnnn. ..the way i look at your post now may " :D " smiley pa..e mukhang natutuwa pa kayo?

The smiley is for lightening up the feeling. Puwede ring di gumamit ng smiley sis... ibang anggulo ang nakikita mo. My intention is to help others get prepared for the incoming situations... di mo alam, ginagamit ka na pala ng mga namumulitika. :rolleyes:

[Tonyang]

Kasi sa mga Jap company, homogeneous ang mix usually at madali iyung prediction ng susunod na mga mangyayari sa political angle. Iyun ang kinatutuwaan ko sa kanila dahil predictable assuming na nakuha na ninyo ang patterns o trends sa mga naunang encounter o experience ng pakikitungo.:D

[infinite_trial]

The smiley is for lightening up the feeling. Puwede ring di gumamit ng smiley sis... ibang anggulo ang nakikita mo. My intention is to help others get prepared for the incoming situations... di mo alam, ginagamit ka na pala ng mga namumulitika. :rolleyes:

thanks for clearing that up.

but im pretty sure po walang nanggagamit sakin. i know how to stand up for mah rights.

[makulit]

hmmm ... not aware of politics on going when i was working ...
was probably too busy doing my job ...

[goma_23]

Here's a good article regarding office politics.

http://articles.techrepubli c.com.com/5100-10881-6113259.html?tag=nl. e101

[ayumi]

Here's a good article regarding office politics.

http://articles.techrepubli c.com.com/5100-10881-6113259.html?tag=nl. e101

goma san,
your signature may be the safe solution to be free from office politics.
-The best way to predict your future is to create it!
-Weak Men waits for opportunities, Strong Men makes them!
-If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts - Einstein
-"A Man's mind once stretched by a new idea will never regain its original dimension"

meron talaga yan sa office,yung iba ginagayuma ang boss makuha lang ang loob.

[proud me]

goma san,
your signature may be the safe solution to be free from office politics.
-The best way to predict your future is to create it!
-Weak Men waits for opportunities, Strong Men makes them!
-If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts - Einstein
-"A Man's mind once stretched by a new idea will never regain its original dimension"

meron talaga yan sa office,yung iba ginagayuma ang boss makuha lang ang loob. kahit pala sa mga office merong mga ganyan...hindi kasi ako naniniwala sa gayuma.:p ...pero parang kahit pala sa office hindi yong galing sa trabaho ang labanan...kung totoo na meron eh,sayang naman pala yong pinanghahawakan na pinag-hirapan sunugin ang kilay...matatalo lang ng walang tinapos pero merong kapit.:p at hawak na pang-gayuma.:D

[ayumi]

kahit pala sa mga office merong mga ganyan...hindi kasi ako naniniwala sa gayuma.:p ...pero parang kahit pala sa office hindi yong galing sa trabaho ang labanan...kung totoo na meron eh,sayang naman pala yong pinanghahawakan na pinag-hirapan sunugin ang kilay...matatalo lang ng walang tinapos pero merong kapit.:p at hawak na pang-gayuma.:D

siempre,una yung galing sa trabaho...pero meron talaga yung iba,
dinadaan sa closeness sa boss...meron talagang nagiging paborito at hindi...:p

[proud me]

siempre,una yung galing sa trabaho...pero meron talaga yung iba,
dinadaan sa closeness sa boss...meron talagang nagiging paborito at hindi...:pThank you..Ayumi san,...kahit sa anong larangan pala...sa madaling salita mga sipsip ang labanan.:p

[dianne]

[quote=infinite_trial ;195176]di po ba kiss a$$? :confused:

sorry OT.

pero ka tonyang...please why are your topics lately focused on debate?
curious?
i know it's healthy to have a debate...but..hmnnn. ..the way i look at your post now may " :D " smiley pa..e mukhang natutuwa pa kayo?[/q

I am second demotion ;)

pero hindi nakakatuwa ! curious sya kasi sa buhay ng may buhay pag bigyan ang hilig :D

[joeblack]

Thank you..Ayumi san,...kahit sa anong larangan pala...sa madaling salita mga sipsip ang labanan.:p


Office politics? As far as I knew, office politics is not rampant in my company but rather japanese bosses praises you if you are doing your job well. Office politics has no place in our company. In my opinion, this politics in offices are caused by rivalry in how you handle and manage your work. Say for instance, if you are doing your work better than the other then; there is a great posibility for you to be elevated in a better position. In this case others might think that there is politics behind it.

Well, probably the best thing for us to do is to focus on our work and think about for the betterment of the company, and or how we can contribute to the welfare of the industry we are involve so that we can be easily noticed. In this manner, there is a great possibility for us to be recognized and be rewarded ...........

[proud me]

Office politics? As far as I knew, office politics is not rampant in my company but rather japanese bosses praises you if you are doing your job well. Office politics has no place in our company. In my opinion, this politics in offices are caused by rivalry in how you handle and manage your work. Say for instance, if you are doing your work better than the other then; there is a great posibility for you to be elevated in a better position. In this case others might think that there is politics behind it.

Well, probably the best thing for us to do is to focus on our work and think about for the betterment of the company, and or how we can contribute to the welfare of the industry we are involve so that we can be easily noticed. In this manner, there is a great possibility for us to be recognized and be rewarded ........... Domo.:)

[mOtt_erU]

the best thing for us to do is to focus on our work and think about for the betterment of the company, and or how we can contribute to the welfare of the industry we are involve so that we can be easily noticed. In this manner, there is a great possibility for us to be recognized and be rewarded ...........

i totaly agree dito sa sinabi mo joeblack san.
hindi talaga maiiwasan ang may "favoritism" sa trabaho....
mas magandang isipin nalang ang main priority...:)

[TR250]

-The best way to predict your future is to create it!
-Weak Men waits for opportunities, Strong Men makes them!
-If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts - Einstein
-"A Man's mind once stretched by a new idea will never regain its original dimension"


Way to go!!! :yesyes:

[Tonyang]

Best formula... do your job well. Pero ang mga Hapon na mapulitiko kadalasan, tinitingnan lang ang kabuuan ng iyong nagawa at hindi iyung contents. So madalas, di efforts ang pinapansin kundi iyung resulta. Mapamaganda o mapa-hindi masyadong magandang resulta na mangyayari, wala silang reaksyon dahil playing safe sila kaya palaging nasa gitna. Kasi, pag magandang resulta, baka ikaw ang ma-praise ng husto at madaig mo sila. Pag di masyadong magandang resulta naman, baka masisi sila na pumanig sa iyo at maa-associate sila sa iyo at ayaw nila ang ganoon kasi masisira ang diskarte nila.

May mga sharing kaya tayo kung paano natin na-overcome ang ganitong challenges?

Sa experience ko, karamihan nasa senior management na hindi talaga kayang mag-lead pero sa araw-araw na nangyayari, ang pinakatrabaho nila ang paghahakot ng mga isyu ng mga proyekto at mga controversy na puwedeng mangyari kaya punung-puno ang ISSUE LIST palagi. Pag ACTION LIST na, lahat mawawala. :rolleyes: