View Full Version : Katapangan ba o Kaduwagan ang pagpapakamatay?
aimi2819
11-24-2006, 10:06 AM
Hindi po ba sinasabi nilang pag Japon daw eh matatapang, bakit po kaya maraming nagpapakamatay sa kanila:confused: Hindi po ba ang pagpapakamatay eh, sign ng kaduwagan, dahil hindi nila kayang dalhin kung ano man ang problemang meron sila:( Kayo po mga ka TF, ano po sa palagay nyo:confused:
goma_23
11-24-2006, 10:23 AM
based from my 5 months of stay here, i observed that japanese are too serious, and perhaps one of the most serious being in the planet, they regard things with too much details, hence they tend to be "frustrated" if things dont come easy for them.
we should "work to live" not "live to work"
They say that we live like a millionaire during pay day, but the bottom line is we filipinos are really easy going, which has a very big advantage to ease pressure. pero minsan sobra lang tlaga.
our roles here in japan doesn't only stop on working & earning more money, perhaps we should start by reaching to those in need of companion or perhaps kahit makakausap man lang, kahit barok ang hapon ko, i see to it that they are very much welcome inside the peer.
who knows, baka yung katabi mong hapon dyan sa office , gusto nang magpakamatay mamayang pag uwi niya .....
geminigirl
11-24-2006, 11:07 AM
Hindi po ba sinasabi nilang pag Japon daw eh matatapang, bakit po kaya maraming nagpapakamatay sa kanila:confused: Hindi po ba ang pagpapakamatay eh, sign ng kaduwagan, dahil hindi nila kayang dalhin kung ano man ang problemang meron sila:( Kayo po mga ka TF, ano po sa palagay nyo:confused:
sa mga catholics kasi, ang pagpapakamatay ay isang uri ng karuwagan. we believe that to face frustrations, problems and sufferings is real courage and to run away from it is cowardice. sa pagkakaalam ko, for some buddhists and some Japanese, it is heroic to commit "harakiri". for them it is a noble deed and real courage to kill oneself, than suffer in life. pero sa tingin ko yata di ko kayang magpakamatay!! baka iniisip ko pa lang himatayin na ako :D
infinite_trial
11-24-2006, 11:16 AM
Some cultural factors exacerbate the problem: lack of religious prohibition against suicide, reluctance to discuss mental health and stress-related problems, a literary tradition that romanticizes suicide, a view of suicide as an honorable act, a way of taking responsibility for failure, among other issues. The breakdown of family and social networks and the increasing isolation of individuals contribute to the problem.
from asia times (http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Japan/FG28Dh01.html)
honey
11-24-2006, 03:00 PM
Akala siguro ng mga taong nagpapakamatay e matatakasan nila agad ang mga problema nila kapag namatay sila kaso hindi pala at lalo lang nila magiging problema.Sobrang tahimik dito at kanya kanya kaya siguro ganun ang mga hapon wala kang makausap o pedeng dumamay sayo sa atin kasing mga pinoy upo ka lang sa labas ng bahay may mga tao ka nang makikita at kakausap sayo e dito sa japan baka amagin ka na aisatsu pa lang ang naririnig mo papanisan ka pa ng laway.
v_wrangler
11-24-2006, 03:31 PM
Hindi relihiyon o dami ng tambay sa kanto ang makakapigil sa pagpapatiwakal. Let us not simply say suicide is a cowardly act or an excuse to get out. People who commit suicide are varied and for some of us who has never experienced being pushed to the extremes, will never ever be able to comprehend. Obviously these people have reached the limits of their abilities to deal with the lonely pressures of the community and suicide could have been the relief for them. Right or wrong, we must exert efforts to examine our communities so that it doesn't place intolerable pressures or make people feel unworthy. People tend to try fitting in the communities and when their efforts fail, commiting suicide becomes the last resort. In addition, Japan's suicidal tendencies is deeply rooted in its past. It is not an escape per se but a way to redeem honor, claim responsibility or protect one's family.
Hindi relihiyon o dami ng tambay sa kanto ang makakapigil sa pagpapatiwakal. Let us not simply say suicide is a cowardly act or an excuse to get out. People who commit suicide are varied and for some of us who has never experienced being pushed to the extremes, will never ever be able to comprehend. Obviously these people have reached the limits of their abilities to deal with the lonely pressures of the community and suicide could have been the relief for them. Right or wrong, we must exert efforts to examine our communities so that it doesn't place intolerable pressures or make people feel unworthy. People tend to try fitting in the communities and when their efforts fail, commiting suicide becomes the last resort. In addition, Japan's suicidal tendencies is deeply rooted in its past. It is not an escape per se but a way to redeem honor, claim responsibility or protect one's family.
Very much agree, we just don't know how it feels like to be in their shoes...:(
But i can imagine - a hard-crunching, pride-swallowing, gut-breaking, depressing, fear-arousing, identity-quashing difficulty. So let us not judge them.
mOtt_erU
11-27-2006, 12:57 AM
Hindi po ba sinasabi nilang pag Japon daw eh matatapang, bakit po kaya maraming nagpapakamatay sa kanila:confused: Hindi po ba ang pagpapakamatay eh, sign ng kaduwagan, dahil hindi nila kayang dalhin kung ano man ang problemang meron sila:( Kayo po mga ka TF, ano po sa palagay nyo:confused:
hi aimi2819 san
tingin ko may mga Japanese na naatim magpapakamatay dahil sa lack of faith nila...dahil nga sa hindi sila Kristiyano eh iba ang paniniwala nila hindi kagaya nateng mga Christians eh naniniwala tayo na "Diyos ang nagbigay saten ng buhay kaya siya lang may karapatang Kumuha nito" nanjan din yung pag nagpakamatay ka eh hindi makakarating sa langit ang kaluluwa mo... at marami pang ibang paniniwala na wala sa Relihiyong kinaaaniban ng mga Japanese...
para saken kaduwagan ang pagpapakamatay....
Kahit ano pang Problema yan eh may katapat na solusyon..
at hindi sagot ang pagkitil ng sariling buhay.....
Lahat naman ng tao may problema , dinaramdam o anumang kakulangan....
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