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midnight
12-19-2006, 03:47 PM
Hi ! I have a question. How dya know if you still love your husband ?
I am so confuse lately up to the point of asking my husband about a Divorce. I met this wonderful guy over the internet ( chatroom / not for dating or any other weird sites ) and we become friends & as days/moths go by we fell for each other. He came to visit me & we spent precious weeks together. Now, the only chance for us to be together is for me to get married with him. He is serious about comin to my country all the way from North America. I asked for a Divorce and my husband cried because he got surprised with my decision. He doesnt know anything about my love affair.I told him that i am very unhappy with our marriage and i am not inlove with him.

Please help me, am i makin the right decisions ? How dya know if u still love your husbands ? I will appreciate your response.

midnight
12-19-2006, 03:52 PM
3 weeks ago I applied for a temporary visa for Canada so we can be together. He lives in Canada and his job,kids are all there. What we were planning was for me to get a tourist visa then Id ask my husband for a Divorce then when its settled I would go there & get married. Thats the easiest way for us to be together and me to be legally staying in Canada.
I met him at some chatroom April this year & we became friends then lovers. We talked almost everyday on our messengers/cams. THen we decided that he come to see me so we could see for ourselves if we really like each other. And we were more on fire when we met in person.He looks good,nice guy and he really likes/loves me a lot. I felt it.I do love/like him as well. We spent weeks of just being with each other,tour my country & we clicked. During this time i asked permission to my husband for me to go home to my country,telling him that I wanna go to school for a short course & as always he would be understanding bout me goin home.
Then i came back home here and I became very cold than what i was before.I was cold too even before bcuz our marriage/relationship isnt normal. We are not intimate, i can only count how many times we had sex in our relationship.But he is a good provider,responsible ,very hardworking,kind,und erstanding.You can say he is a good guy/husband. He is just not sweet,loving in a different way. We dont have kids & weve been married for 6 yrs. but weve been together all in all for like 8 yrs.

Me and my bf would continuosly talked (everyday) ,see each other on messengers .Planning what to do for us to be together.Of course it would be impossible for him to fly and see me all the time and he really wants me to be with him.He wants to marry me.And bcuz my visa got rejected by the embassy,we decided to do the Plan B which is for me to get a divorce and he would come to my country & marry me there.THen make an application for spouse visa.
I asked my husband for a Divorce and he cried and I was crying a lot too.I felt so sad and pity for him.I know that he is a good person,a good provider to the point of helping my love ones back home by sending them money every month.Because I am the only help in my family.to help/support our parents,brothers or sisters. THat is the main reason why I also came to this country.then i met my husband. My husband said he wants to have a second chance,hes crying and he said im gonna let u love me once again bcuz i said i dont love him like the way i should love him.He said weve been together for many yrs already & its like i feel so sad. He said all he wants is for us to be good together,that is why hes been workin hard cuz he plans of buying a condominum and that he also wants to go to other places with me. hes offering me that if i would give him a chance that we would rent a new house,get a dog etc..Because he knows how bored i am here i told him bout it.that i am tired of this country and that i am very unhappy with my previous jobs and unhappy with my marriage life too. He was even offering me not to hurry on divorcing,he said why dont u go home to your country,take a vacation and i will give u some money.He said think bout it cuz this is all for you. He knows that we are poor back home and the only support i have is him and being in this rich country where i can get some decent salary unlike back home.

Please help me bcuz I am so confuse if this is the right thing to do. I love and i wanna be with my bf but I also feel pity,and a feeling of loss if I would just throw our 8 yrs. of being together. I am also scared of whats gonna happen to me in Canada if i would be with my bf because we havent been with each other for a long time. Its obvious that our relationship is kinda fresh or young.But I love him and he loves me,his kids likes me (see/talk to me on cam). He seemed to be a nice guy too.But i am scared of what will be my life there. THe place that i would be goin is a small town but i thought if i really love him that doesnt matter.Here, I am comfortable,secured but our marriage is not normal like any other couple.He is like workaholic and i guess that is normal for a Japanese.
Now, my bf is so depress,upset and hurt because he sees/feels that i am getting confuse.We were planning of marrying and here i am getting confuse. PLease help me .Please. I know i am like a bad person becuase of the things that ive been doin at the back of my husband.But i didnt plan for this to happen to my life.We bumped and fell in love like any other human beings.

I will be so thankful for any posters who could give me an adivse.

P.S. I am also scared of the long process of applying for a spouse visa for him to get me, he should sponsor me and we have to wait for process for me to get a spouse visa.During this period, i have to be back home where i am not financially stable.Remember my husband was the one who was supporting my love ones back home whenever i am not workin in Japan.I have a few savings but its not enough.im too scared cuz everybody depends on me.and i have to wait for my visa then go to a different/far country where ive never been and everything would be new to me.

midnight
12-19-2006, 03:57 PM
I just talked to my bf and hes really telling me that he loves me and he wants to marry me.He said he wants me so badly.that we would be good together and that we will be ok in canada oce im there. But i am so confused if i should leave my husband who is responsible,good provider, and he didnt do anything bad to me. He is just not intimate like he wont invite for sex and we dont have sex anymore.I remember it was always me who would invite him to do it.And a lot of times he would reject me cuz he is sleeping or he is tired from work.He is a very hardworking man too. He is not that sweet.I know he loves me a lot cuz hes trying so hard for me not to leave him.
And now i am pressured if I would leave him and jump with my bf,marry him and move to his country which ive never been and i know i would start from scratch.
I dont wanna dissapoint him but i dont wanna leave my husband just like that cuz he is askin for a chance.im so confused on what to do and im so scared cuz everybodys been advising me not to domy decision of divorcing my husband and marrying this new guy and jumping with him to his country.i met him through the internet chatroom and we fell for each other.Please help me.

Alam ko napakasama ng dating nito o ng image ko pero tao lang din ako at nalilito.Sana matulungan nyo ako.

scorpionight
12-19-2006, 04:14 PM
Hi ! I have a question. How dya know if you still love your husband ?
I am so confuse lately up to the point of asking my husband about a Divorce. I met this wonderful guy over the internet ( chatroom / not for dating or any other weird sites ) and we become friends & as days/moths go by we fell for each other. He came to visit me & we spent precious weeks together. Now, the only chance for us to be together is for me to get married with him. He is serious about comin to my country all the way from North America. I asked for a Divorce and my husband cried because he got surprised with my decision. He doesnt know anything about my love affair.I told him that i am very unhappy with our marriage and i am not inlove with him.

Please help me, am i makin the right decisions ? How dya know if u still love your husbands ? I will appreciate your response.
This is a very sad part for your husband..,And yet I Understand what your goin through..You will Know if you still love your husband if..

1.The thought of getting out of your married makes you sad
2.The thought of breaking his heart hurt you more than you could ever think of.
3.You cant utter the words 'I want a divorce" that easy
4.You cant Imagine yourself getting old with someone else than him.

But since you said your not happy anymore with him,simply because you have someone else in your mind,theres a third party involve.
Now if you really wanna get out of yoyr married then tell him the truth.,it might break his heart,he may fusing mad at you and curse you to death.,you cant do nothing about it,but accept it..If you really want you freedom.,be fair enough to him.
spare him some respect not letting him hang in himself trying to think what he've done wrong to you.
And lastly stop using him for your own good.dont wait a KARMA to strike you out.
Just be fair enough to him and to yourself too.

Dax
12-19-2006, 04:39 PM
Hello midnight, I don't know you, your husband, nor your boyfriend personally so I can only analyze the situation based on the information you provided in your posts below. Please forgive me if I make mistakes.

I think your husband is the kind of man who does not talk alot. He loves and cares for you and tries to show that by being kind, responsible, hard-working, good provider etc. He is not the kind that is good with words. He believes that marriage is something that is only done once and is final...in other words, he is a conservative. He is shocked with your decision to get a divorce because he did not expect it. He thought that the two of you will be together for the rest of your lives.

I think you, on the other hand are the opposite - an adventurous, open-minded person who believes that even married people should be given the chance to explore other relationships. For you, divorce is there for that reason - because marriage is not final. I think you are tired of living in Japan, of its culture and people and want to live in another country.

Your boyfriend, on the other hand, knowing that you are already married still tried to "win" you. I'm sorry to be biased, but I don't like this kind of people. He knows you are lonely and uses that opportunity to take you away from your husband, whom you know loves you so much. Just like fire, there are also different types of love: the hottest type burns away quickly so beware.

Since you are asking for our opinions, please accept mine:

Give your husband a chance - he deserves it. Take it slow. Don't rush. Your boyfriend, if he really loves you, should respect your decision, shut up and wait. Even if you would decide to forget him and stay with your husband as you are supposed to, he (your bf) should accept it gracefully. Giving your husband a chance means stopping all forms of communication with your boyfriend. After a while (say a year or two, or even shorter - depends on the two of you) if you still want a divorce, then please discuss it again with your husband.

nikkichibi
12-19-2006, 04:43 PM
bakit di mo subukan sundin yung sinabi ng asawa mo na umuwi ka muna ng pinas kahit ilang month , mag isip ka doon kung ano ba talaga ang gusto mo , but that time ay wag ka munang makikipag usap kahit na sa bf at sa asawa mo , subukan mong timbangin kung cno ba talaga sa kanila , at kung tama ba ang gagawin mo , isipin mo din mabuti na kung pupunta ka ng canada ay kagaya din ba ng dati na pwede kang tumulong sa family mo sa pinas , at saka cguro kaya mo nasasabing love mo nga talag ang bf mo ay dahil sa hindi kayo ng kikita araw araw , iba ang situation ng bf at asawa , pag mag syota pa lang kayo ay may trill kasi sabik ka lagi na nakikita sha ,kaya feel mo na talagang love mo nga sya , pero pag mag asawa na kayo ay nanjan yung tampuhan away at kung ano anong pag subok , minsan ng kakasawaan kasi lagi kayong magkasama , na fefeel mo din na ayoko na sa asawa ko at di ko na sha love , but deep inside ay mahal mo pala sha, kaya kung ako sa yo ay mag isip kang mabuti para di mo pagsisihan kung ano mang ang dicision mo , gambatte ne :)

midnight
12-19-2006, 04:47 PM
thankyou scorpio...:) i appreciate your response. sana may makapagbigay pa ng tamang desisyon kung ano ba ang nararapat kung gawin.nalulungkot din kasi akong iwanan ang asaw ko na wala namang masamang ginawa sa akin o sa pamilya ko.yon nga lang marami syang pagkukulang sa pangangailangan ng isang asawa.palagi sya focus sa trabaho pero binibigyan nya naman ako ng sapat na pera.maunawaiin naman at walang problema pag nangailangan ako ng tulong ..hindi mahirap kausap. Nung pagsabi ko nga ng divorce eh miyak lang sya at kalmado at humihingi ng sorry dahil naging unhappy ako sa kanya. sabi nya sana bigyan ko raw sya ng chance na maayos ang marriage life namin.mahal daw nya ako at gusto nya kung bibgyan ko sya ulit ng pagkakataon na lilipat daw kami ng bahay para magstart ulit at iyong hinihiling kong aso ay bibili daw kami dahil wala naman kaming anak.naboboring din ako dito sa bahay.wala na iyong kapatid ko at di rin ako nagtatrabaho lately.
Alam ko rin na malaking kawalan sa akin ang asawa ko dahil kung sa financial lang ang paguusapan,eh stable talaga ako dito at kaya nyang tulungan mga magulang ko at kapatid.Sabi nga niya nagiipon daw sya ng pera para sa amin.
Ano ba ang dapat kong gawin,iyong bf ko eh mahal na mahal din akoat gusto na akong pakasalan.Sabi nya wag daw akong magalala dahil magigng masaya daw ako sa kanya at magugustuhan ko raw sa canada. Kaso, natatakot din ako na magumpisa sa scratch at nalulungkot din ako na itapon na lang ang asawa ko at ang 8 taon naming pinagsamahan kahit na marami din akong ginawang kalokohan.naging mabuti pa rin sya sa akin.Napakamaunawaii n nya at sabi ng mga kaibigan ko at magulang.wala na raw akong makikitang lalaki katulad nya.ano ba dapat kong gawin ?

csbaby
12-19-2006, 04:52 PM
Hi ! I have a question. How dya know if you still love your husband ?
I am so confuse lately up to the point of asking my husband about a Divorce. I met this wonderful guy over the internet ( chatroom / not for dating or any other weird sites ) and we become friends & as days/moths go by we fell for each other. He came to visit me & we spent precious weeks together. Now, the only chance for us to be together is for me to get married with him. He is serious about comin to my country all the way from North America. I asked for a Divorce and my husband cried because he got surprised with my decision. He doesnt know anything about my love affair.I told him that i am very unhappy with our marriage and i am not inlove with him.

Please help me, am i makin the right decisions ? How dya know if u still love your husbands ? I will appreciate your response.

hello po midnight san,same po tayo 5 years na kami ng hubby ko wala kaming anak kasi ang hubby ko sinabi nya sa akin na ayaw nya ng bata sa umpisa di ko matanggap.sa isip ko ngayon lang ako naka encounter ng lalaki na ayaw ng bata pero wala po akong magagawa inintindi ko nalang sya inisip ko baka ayaw nya ng responsibilidad.mins an naisip ko minsan na boring ang life ko sa knya wala kaming anak i accept it bcoz i love my husband.at marami din akong ka chat na mga guy pero never akong na inlove sa mga guy sa net kasi di ko sila kilala at may nagyaya sa akin na pkasalan ako pro ayoko talaga kasi divorce sya at may anak no ayoko.by the way about sa hubby mo wala palang problema mabait pala at ano pa ba ang hinahanap mo. ur so lucky to your husband di ka naman nya pinabayaan mag isip isip po kayo ng 100 times:D ganun po talaga ang mga sakang di sila showy medyo tsumetai type yan sila .baka po stress lang kayo at nadagdagan na may bf po kayo sa net kaya nalilito kayo at yong about sa sex with your husband madali lang po yan may lunas dyan hehehe.may season din po kasi na ayaw nila kahit din po tayo minsan ayaw natin.ganun po si hubby ko mga past year niyaya ko ayaw nya but ngayon wow:D as in alive na alive hehhe ako na yong umaayaw.sorry po OT sumimasendeshita

midnight
12-19-2006, 05:11 PM
salamat Dax at nikkichibi:) . Kanina kausap ko iyong bf ko at gusto nyang malaman kung ano na na ba ang nangyayari.Kasi bago ako magtanong ng Divorce sa asawa ko.Palagi kami halos araw araw kaming naguusap tungkol sa Plano namin na umuwi na lang ako sa pinas ant uuwi sya at papakasalan nya ako at iaaply namin ng spouse visa. Pero ngayon, tanong sya ng tanong kung ano ba ang sagot ko. A part of me wants to stayhere and a part of me wants to go there with me and start a new life. Hindi ko masabi sa kanya na gusto ko munang bigyan ng chance ang asawa ko at tignan kung anong mangyayari. Pero sabi nya pag ang naging desisyon ko daw ay bigyan ng chance ang asawa ko at manatili muna dito sabi nya mas mainam daw na wag na kaming magkausap,magtawagan ,magkita sa webcam o magsulatan.idedelete na rin daw nya ang lahat ng pictures ko o alaala kasi mahihirapan lang daw sya na makapagmove on at makalimutan ako.pag nakita raw nya ang picture ko,magdaydreaming lang daw ang mangyayari sa kanya. Gustong gusto nya talaga ko at pangarap nya talaga ang makapagasawa ng Asian na katulad ko.Gandang ganda sya sa akin at wala pa raw syang naging gf na katulad ko. Pinagyayabang nga nya ako sa mga kaibigan nya,sa pamilya nya at sa trabaho nya.Halos lahat na yata ng tao sa lugar nya eh kilala na ako dahil pinapakita nya ang picture ko.Sya naman ay magandalang lalaki din,37 lang sya.divorce na rin dati at nong makilala ko sya ay may kalive in sya for 3 yrs. may bahay silang biniling dalawa at kagamitan pero hindi na rin maayos ang pagsasama nila kasi sa mga naging pagaaway nila.tapos nakilala nya ako sa chat at nung makita pa lang nya ang picture ko eh, napahanga at nagustuhan nya na talaga ako.nong time na yon malungkot ako at di masaya sa buhay mayasawa. nangailangan ako ng karinyo,loving loving pero wala. naging magkaibigan kami,usap usap hanggang magkagustuhan.tapos nakipaghiwalay sya sa live in gf nya at pinuntahan ako sa pinas at nagbakasyon kami.in lab na inlab talaga sya .sa tingin ko mas mahal nya ako kesa sa mahal ko sya.ganon din ako sa asawa ko.
ngayon, gusto na nyang malaman kung ano na ang desisyon ko.sabi ko binigay ko ang papel sa asawa ko pero ayaw nya pa kakong pumirma at humihingi kako ng chance. sabi naman nya pipirma din daw yon basta wag ko na raw paasahin.kaso sa tingin ko dapat lang bigyan ng chance ang asaw ko kasi wala namang pinakitang masama sa akin.sabi nya akala ko ba di mo na mahal ang asawa mo at di ka na masaya kaya gusto mo na talagang makipaghiwalay.sabi nya ano ba talalga ?
Di ko rin alam kung ano ang dapat sabihin sa kanya.ayoko rin kasing masaktan sya at parang ayoko rin na di ko na sya makausap.di ko alam kung ano ang dapat kung sabihin sa kanya para di naman sya masaktan.ayoko rin namang paasahinn pero gusto ko rin sana syang makasam.nalilito ako .alam ko minsan lang din kasi ito darating a buhay ko at pag pinili ko ang husband ko siguradong mawawala na sya sa buhay ko. mabait ang asawa ko pero di na kami sweet,di na kami nagsesex at para bang wala na rin akong gana makipagx sa kanya.
iyong bf ko naman syempre kilig kilig pa kami at napakarami sana ng plano rin namin.papano kung di naman magwork out ang marriage o dito at pagsisihan ko ang desisyon ko na palayain na lang iyong bf ko.hay,,,pagibig.bak it pa kasi ako nahumaling sa chat sa kanya.nagkainlaban tuloy kami at masyadong naging seryoso.tulong naman.saklolo....... ......:(

infinite_trial
12-19-2006, 05:15 PM
wow...i didn't read the whole story yet...but i get the gist.

just think about these...
what will you do again if you meet another guy? will you resort AGAIN to divorce?
and how sure are you that this bf of yours will not leave you?
he KNOWS that you are a married woman; how sure are you he won't do it to other married women? and how sure are you that he will give you his 100% trust knowing that you betrayed your current husband?

now if you're able to answer all of the questions here without a doubt, then go on with the divorce.

midnight
12-19-2006, 05:16 PM
hello po midnight san,same po tayo 5 years na kami ng hubby ko wala kaming anak kasi ang hubby ko sinabi nya sa akin na ayaw nya ng bata sa umpisa di ko matanggap.sa isip ko ngayon lang ako naka encounter ng lalaki na ayaw ng bata pero wala po akong magagawa inintindi ko nalang sya inisip ko baka ayaw nya ng responsibilidad.mins an naisip ko minsan na boring ang life ko sa knya wala kaming anak i accept it bcoz i love my husband.at marami din akong ka chat na mga guy pero never akong na inlove sa mga guy sa net kasi di ko sila kilala at may nagyaya sa akin na pkasalan ako pro ayoko talaga kasi divorce sya at may anak no ayoko.by the way about sa hubby mo wala palang problema mabait pala at ano pa ba ang hinahanap mo. ur so lucky to your husband di ka naman nya pinabayaan mag isip isip po kayo ng 100 times:D ganun po talaga ang mga sakang di sila showy medyo tsumetai type yan sila .baka po stress lang kayo at nadagdagan na may bf po kayo sa net kaya nalilito kayo at yong about sa sex with your husband madali lang po yan may lunas dyan hehehe.may season din po kasi na ayaw nila kahit din po tayo minsan ayaw natin.ganun po si hubby ko mga past year niyaya ko ayaw nya but ngayon wow:D as in alive na alive hehhe ako na yong umaayaw.sorry po OT sumimasendeshita
may anak na rin sya.dalawa.10 and 12yrs old babae at lalaki.pero nakatira sa ex wife nya. at every other 2 weeks ay nasa kanya ang mga bata.ngayon, sabi nya pwede na raw tumira sa kanya iyong isa nyang anak.at pag magkasama daw kami ay titira daw sa amin iyong lalaki.gusto ko rin iyong mga anak nya kasi mababait naman at kinakausap din ako sa webcam.pero isa rin sa worries ko na makakasama ang anak nya kasi di pa ako nakaexperience ng ganon.wala kaming anak ng asawa ko.natatakot din ako na pag nandon ako ay isa pa sa aasikasuhin ko ang anak nya.paano kung maraming conflict....

dcat
12-19-2006, 05:35 PM
I just talked to my bf and hes really telling me that he loves me and he wants to marry me.He said he wants me so badly.that we would be good together and that we will be ok in canada oce im there. But i am so confused if i should leave my husband who is responsible,good provider, and he didnt do anything bad to me. He is just not intimate like he wont invite for sex and we dont have sex anymore.I remember it was always me who would invite him to do it.And a lot of times he would reject me cuz he is sleeping or he is tired from work.He is a very hardworking man too. He is not that sweet.I know he loves me a lot cuz hes trying so hard for me not to leave him.
And now i am pressured if I would leave him and jump with my bf,marry him and move to his country which ive never been and i know i would start from scratch.
I dont wanna dissapoint him but i dont wanna leave my husband just like that cuz he is askin for a chance.im so confused on what to do and im so scared cuz everybodys been advising me not to domy decision of divorcing my husband and marrying this new guy and jumping with him to his country.i met him through the internet chatroom and we fell for each other.Please help me.
Alam ko napakasama ng dating nito o ng image ko pero tao lang din ako at nalilito.Sana matulungan nyo ako.

Hullo Midnight! :)
I understand your situation. Thank you for having the courage to tell us. What I could tell you is that this has all the bad omen written in it. Your short escapade with your lover is not a proof of future happiness. Happiness is about love, contentment and commitment to the people you care about. Although I cannot say that it wouldn't come with the next, I will say that your present relationship is better than then next. Whatever relationship you might choose, you need understanding, patience, sacrifice, commitment, love, respect for your partner. That's a lot of work to do, but people can still be happy if they accept these responsibilities and be content with what they have.

You might think that you're betting for a better life, but i'm telling you it is just the same responsibilities - just different settings. All person are not perfect, all have their imperfections. The solution is to accept your partner for who he is. You know your husband, you know his good side, you know his imperfections, but he's willing to try to improve himself - for you!
What do you know about your lover? Messages, webcam conversations, "nice kids", and a short passionate time together. If I have to judge based on these information, I'd say you are completely getting it wrong. Who knows about a person through messages and webcams? And he's got kids, this is a potential problem for all couples. Don't get me wrong I love kids, i want to have thousands of them, but it's difficult to raise someone else's kids. You just don't know this guy, and from what I've heard he's irresponsible and selfish for being (potentially) the reason why someone else's marriage fall apart.

I know and I understand, these things happen, people just fall in love for no particular reason. But this circumstance is highly doubtful. Please remember, all happy marriages are there not because of luck, but because of sacrifice, respect, and love. Go back to your husband and ask for forgiveness. Communicate your feelings, requests, and frustrations with your husband, I'm sure if he can do something about them he will. For your part, be more understanding, try harder and work harder to fix your marriage. Learn the Japanese language and culture. Look at your husband, he's breaking all his bones to provide for you - even your family back home. How heroic is that? I know we need more than finances in our relationship, but these things could be fix with proper communication. ;)

csbaby
12-19-2006, 05:36 PM
[quote=midnight;21217 8]may anak na rin sya.dalawa.10 and 12yrs old babae at lalaki.pero nakatira sa ex wife nya. at every other 2 weeks ay nasa kanya ang mga bata.ngayon, sabi nya pwede na raw tumira sa kanya iyong isa nyang anak.at pag magkasama daw kami ay titira daw sa amin iyong lalaki.gusto ko rin iyong mga anak nya kasi mababait naman at kinakausap din ako sa webcam.pero isa rin sa worries ko na makakasama ang anak nya kasi di pa ako nakaexperience ng ganon.wala kaming anak ng asawa ko.natatakot din ako na pag nandon ako ay isa pa sa aasikasuhin ko ang anak nya.paano kung maraming conflict....[/quote


ay pag ganun ang hirap nyan pano po kong magka-anak kayo bale dalawa na ang responsibilidad nya buti kong mayaman talaga sya maraming bisnis etc walang problem yon kasi yakang yaka nya yon kasi may pera nga.eh paano po kong salary man lang or tama lang ang hanap buhay nya so mahirap yon.masasabi mo na mabait ang anak kasi nakakausap mo mabait po talaga yon kasi di mo pa sila nakakasama.reverse psychology nyo nalang po.di po bale mag asawa po kayo ulit basta walang sabit sa buhay.thanks

sharpener
12-19-2006, 05:44 PM
midnight kapatid,

ikaw ang taong walang problema na gumagawa ng problema

lumapit ka sa PANGINOON...yan ang kulang sayo

kung hima ka sa buhay mo, then maglingkod ka sa simbahang malapit sa inyo
para malayo ka kay satanas

csbaby
12-19-2006, 05:50 PM
midnight kapatid,

ikaw ang taong walang problema na gumagawa ng problema

lumapit ka sa PANGINOON...yan ang kulang sayo

kung hima ka sa buhay mo, then maglingkod ka sa simbahang malapit sa inyo
para malayo ka kay satanas


tama po kayo sharpener san:) kaya midnight san magsimba na po tayo.

midnight
12-19-2006, 05:53 PM
csbaby, salamat ulit at kay dcat sa makatotohanang adivse.

Iyong canadian bf ko ay hindi na ako pwedeng mabigyan ng anak kasi nagpaVasectomy na sya at old fashion way pa.meaning taling tali:( .kung ibabalik man ito ay ilang pera at talagang malaki ang gastusan at di pa sugurado or not 100 % na magkakaanak kami. Ako rin,sa buong buhay ko,hindi pa rin ako napreggy kahit isang beses.Kaya sya nagpaVasectomy kasi iyong dati nya raw gf ay may anak na rin at ayaw na rin nga magkaanak sa dati nyang gf .Sa madaling salita ayaw nya na magkaanak pa maliban sa 2 anak nya ngayon.Sabi nya kasi,naisip daw nya 37 na rin daw sya,medyo tumatanda na rin para sa ganong responsibilidad at magastos din ang magkaanak.Hindi rin sya mayaman.Simpleng empleyado lang sya sa isang company pero malaki laki ang sahod nya kesa sa sa mga ordinary. Sabi nya,plano nya na pagmagaasawa o magkakasama na kaming 2.bibli daw sya ng bahay pero syempre loan.lahat naman doon ay loan din gaya dito.tapos bibili din daw kami ng aso etc... tapos maghahanap ako ng trabaho para magtulungan kami.

Ang asawa ko naman ay isang saccho o may ari ng isang maliit na kumpanya pero di hamak na mas malaki talaga ang sahod nya kesa sa bf ko na canadian.Sabi ng bf ko pag magkasama daw kami,mga 300 dollars lang daw ang matitra sa amin na pwedeng isave sa bangko,nakaltas na lahat doon. Alam kong napaliit nito at di talaga ako sanay na magipit.isa rin sa kinakatakot ko ito.sabi nya di raw talaga kakayanin na makapadala sya sa pinas pero sabi nya magaaply daw sya sa ibang company na may mas mataas na sweldo pero maghapon daw sya nasa trabaho .di tulad ng trabaho nya ngayon na 6 -2 ng hapon.2 :05 ay nasa bahay na sya at kasama ako. kailangan pagdating ko doon eh magtrabaho talaga ng puspusan kasi marami din umaasa sa akin sa pinas.di tulad dito na kahit di ako magtrabaho ay walang problema kesa suportado ako ng asawa ko. hay! sakit na ng ulo ko.masyadong complicated at risky ang buhay ko.sensya na kayo..iniisip ko rin kasi ang pamilya ko sa pinas.kung buhay ko lang talaga ang nasa isip ko,madaling magdesisyon pero sabi ng bf ko...kung lagi ko raw iisipin ang iba di raw ako magiging maligaya at sa bandang huli magisa daw ako.

dcat
12-19-2006, 06:07 PM
kailangan pagdating ko doon eh magtrabaho talaga ng puspusan kasi marami din umaasa sa akin sa pinas.di tulad dito na kahit di ako magtrabaho ay walang problema kesa suportado ako ng asawa ko. hay! sakit na ng ulo ko.masyadong complicated at risky ang buhay ko.sensya na kayo..iniisip ko rin kasi ang pamilya ko sa pinas.kung buhay ko lang talaga ang nasa isip ko,madaling magdesisyon pero sabi ng bf ko...kung lagi ko raw iisipin ang iba di raw ako magiging maligaya at sa bandang huli magisa daw ako.
what the hell?!

Well, you will have your nice husband with you in the end. That is, of course, if your husband doesn't realize how unfaithful you are to him, or if he could forgive you for being unfaithful. So better straighten up yourself. And please don't think about money so much, think about who is respectful, responsible, and worth loving. If you want money then go work for it.

csbaby
12-19-2006, 06:17 PM
what the hell?!

Well, you will have your nice husband with you in the end. That is, of course, if your husband doesn't realize how unfaithful you are to him, or if he could forgive you for being unfaithful. So better straighten up yourself. And please don't think about money so much, think about who is respectful, responsible, and worth loving. If you want money then go work for it.


ayan tuloy midnight san napagalitan ka ni dcat san:D at alam mo po ba yong bf mo puro salita lang yon para makuha ka nya.Diyos ko po Dai kong si canadian ang pipiliin mo para kang nag prito ng sarili mong mantika or para kang kumuha ng bato at pinukpok mo sa ulo mo:D midnight san,stress lang po yata kayo gusto mo inuman tayo pero sabi mo satcho si hubby mo taya mo ako ha hehehe(ot po sumimasen)

midnight
12-19-2006, 06:18 PM
salamat dcat.. Now my problem is what to say to my bf who is waiting for my final decision.He needs it badly and he is really wanting me so much to marry him to be with him cuz he is inlove with me. He said he cant imagine his life not being with me or not to hold me once again. Here is his message sent to me today after we talked on webcam.. what will i tell him without hurting ? I also feel that I already gave my word to him that I will marry him and now i am confused. He spent money to fly and see me,he puts a lot of time talkin to me and to the point of leaving his live in gf ( but they werent in good terms at those times too.fights,arguement s etc...)


His message to me after we talked on webcam *


hey im not goin to bother you much cause really all im doin is stressin u
out . you already know how much i love you and what really more can i do .
think about yur life with me and think of yur life without me forget the rest
cause in the end all you 'll have is yurself , i'll accept yur answer , please
email me each day to tell me something , i love you so much and i need to at
the very least know yur thinking of me . so when u wanna see me then just tell
me i'll be here for you . im off on wed then thats it till im in smithers. ok
baby i love you and yur here in my heart ( i'm goin to think about our first
hot kisses and try to fall asleep now ) night . im here for you.

midnight
12-19-2006, 06:26 PM
He sent this message to me on my cellphone this morning *



My mind will always turn to you
In each and every way
My thoughts will always
Be for you alone
My eyes forever marvelling
At your beauty everyday
My mouth will tell
Of this love I have known

My lips will always kiss you
With a passion yet to be
My heart will always
Beat for only you
My arms forever holding you
So tight and close to me
My hands will soothe you
Darling as they do

My fingers always will caress
Your body that's so fair
My legs will always wait
In your long queue
My knees forever going weak
So far beyond compare
My feet will point
Their way to only you

My love for you will carry me
And enrich me everyday
My being will always
Lead me to your side
My spirit forever resting
Next to you wherever you lay
My love for you
Will always be my guide

i love you so much, i want 2 b with u at any cost i dont want my life
to b without u , i cant go back, i have been with the most beautiful woman no 1
else could compare. see ya 2night i hope . missing u till it hurts

midnight
12-19-2006, 06:29 PM
Pasensya na kayo ang gulo ng buhay ko ngayon. PAti kayo naoobliga magadvise sa akin.Ayoko lang kasing magsisi at manghinayang sa bandang huli.Sana maunawaan nyo ako:(

infinite_trial
12-19-2006, 06:34 PM
Pasensya na kayo ang gulo ng buhay ko ngayon. PAti kayo naoobliga magadvise sa akin.Ayoko lang kasing magsisi at manghinayang sa bandang huli.Sana maunawaan nyo ako:(

ano po bang advise ang gusto nyo?
kasi naibigay na po lahat ng tao dito...nasa sa inyo na yun kung ano ang pipiliin nyo. sa sarili mo alam mo ang tama. yun ang gawin mo.

alamagawa
12-19-2006, 07:59 PM
sa una lang yan kapatid......mawawal a rin yan.....hanggat pwede pa iwasan, iwasan mo na sya, hanggat hindi pa kyo kasal, hanggat wala pa syang karapatan sayo,.....wala ka namang problema eh............

lanlan
12-19-2006, 09:31 PM
if you do not have kids ok lang,pero malalaman mo lang kung mahal mo pa if give space to each other to think all about it,ako ang akala ko di ko na sya mahal so i desided to stay sa atin to think and you know hinanap ko yung mga pag aasikaso ko sa kanya,you see i been married for almost 16 years with 5 kids and i`m very now.

lanlan
12-19-2006, 09:46 PM
i was married for almost 16 years,and i use to ask my self to mahal ko pa ba ang asawa ko?so i desided to come to the phil.to think about it,pero alam mo hinanap hanap ko yung pag aasikaso ko sa kanya,means di iikot ang mundo ko ng wala sya,beacause his part of my life na eh,thats mean i love my husband kahit na maypagkukulang sya sa akin,ikaw bakit di mo subukang humingi ng space to think about it give each other space.

summergirl
12-19-2006, 09:48 PM
Dear,minsan naisip mo bang your being so unfair,what will happen to you ,in case drawing lang lahat ng pangako ng bf mo,1000 times mo munang isipin kung tama ba ang decision mo or what,s abi mo nga wala naman pag kukulang sa iyo ang asawa mo workaholic lang but a good provider naman.Have a break,give yourself time to think.dahan dahan lang dahil future mo ang nakasalalay dito..Good luck ,and ske for God's help and guidance dahil he will teach you the right way to go,,

lanlan
12-19-2006, 09:59 PM
salamat Dax at nikkichibi:) . Kanina kausap ko iyong bf ko at gusto nyang malaman kung ano na na ba ang nangyayari.Kasi bago ako magtanong ng Divorce sa asawa ko.Palagi kami halos araw araw kaming naguusap tungkol sa Plano namin na umuwi na lang ako sa pinas ant uuwi sya at papakasalan nya ako at iaaply namin ng spouse visa. Pero ngayon, tanong sya ng tanong kung ano ba ang sagot ko. A part of me wants to stayhere and a part of me wants to go there with me and start a new life. Hindi ko masabi sa kanya na gusto ko munang bigyan ng chance ang asawa ko at tignan kung anong mangyayari. Pero sabi nya pag ang naging desisyon ko daw ay bigyan ng chance ang asawa ko at manatili muna dito sabi nya mas mainam daw na wag na kaming magkausap,magtawagan ,magkita sa webcam o magsulatan.idedelete na rin daw nya ang lahat ng pictures ko o alaala kasi mahihirapan lang daw sya na makapagmove on at makalimutan ako.pag nakita raw nya ang picture ko,magdaydreaming lang daw ang mangyayari sa kanya. Gustong gusto nya talaga ko at pangarap nya talaga ang makapagasawa ng Asian na katulad ko.Gandang ganda sya sa akin at wala pa raw syang naging gf na katulad ko. Pinagyayabang nga nya ako sa mga kaibigan nya,sa pamilya nya at sa trabaho nya.Halos lahat na yata ng tao sa lugar nya eh kilala na ako dahil pinapakita nya ang picture ko.Sya naman ay magandalang lalaki din,37 lang sya.divorce na rin dati at nong makilala ko sya ay may kalive in sya for 3 yrs. may bahay silang biniling dalawa at kagamitan pero hindi na rin maayos ang pagsasama nila kasi sa mga naging pagaaway nila.tapos nakilala nya ako sa chat at nung makita pa lang nya ang picture ko eh, napahanga at nagustuhan nya na talaga ako.nong time na yon malungkot ako at di masaya sa buhay mayasawa. nangailangan ako ng karinyo,loving loving pero wala. naging magkaibigan kami,usap usap hanggang magkagustuhan.tapos nakipaghiwalay sya sa live in gf nya at pinuntahan ako sa pinas at nagbakasyon kami.in lab na inlab talaga sya .sa tingin ko mas mahal nya ako kesa sa mahal ko sya.ganon din ako sa asawa ko.
ngayon, gusto na nyang malaman kung ano na ang desisyon ko.sabi ko binigay ko ang papel sa asawa ko pero ayaw nya pa kakong pumirma at humihingi kako ng chance. sabi naman nya pipirma din daw yon basta wag ko na raw paasahin.kaso sa tingin ko dapat lang bigyan ng chance ang asaw ko kasi wala namang pinakitang masama sa akin.sabi nya akala ko ba di mo na mahal ang asawa mo at di ka na masaya kaya gusto mo na talagang makipaghiwalay.sabi nya ano ba talalga ?
Di ko rin alam kung ano ang dapat sabihin sa kanya.ayoko rin kasing masaktan sya at parang ayoko rin na di ko na sya makausap.di ko alam kung ano ang dapat kung sabihin sa kanya para di naman sya masaktan.ayoko rin namang paasahinn pero gusto ko rin sana syang makasam.nalilito ako .alam ko minsan lang din kasi ito darating a buhay ko at pag pinili ko ang husband ko siguradong mawawala na sya sa buhay ko. mabait ang asawa ko pero di na kami sweet,di na kami nagsesex at para bang wala na rin akong gana makipagx sa kanya.
iyong bf ko naman syempre kilig kilig pa kami at napakarami sana ng plano rin namin.papano kung di naman magwork out ang marriage o dito at pagsisihan ko ang desisyon ko na palayain na lang iyong bf ko.hay,,,pagibig.bak it pa kasi ako nahumaling sa chat sa kanya.nagkainlaban tuloy kami at masyadong naging seryoso.tulong naman.saklolo....... ......:(
dear midnight, alam mo dumating na rin sa akin yan i keep asking my self mahal ko pa ba ang asawa ko?you see i been married for almost 16 years and have 5 kids.i ask my kung puwede muna akong umuwi sa atin to think kasi nga i really need a space to think about it,pero alam mo hinanap ko yung mga time na inaasikaso ko sya na if his not around i feel empty,and his part of my life.mahirap mag kamali ng disisyon kung ako sayo ask a little time to think a space and you`ll find the answer.good luck

Inday_36
12-19-2006, 11:03 PM
alam mo midnigth, hwag ka sanang magagalit pero ikaw na rin ang sumagot sa sarili mong katanungan. Sinasabi mong naguguluhan, pero para sa akin hindi ka naguguluhan, kundi ipinipilit mo lang ang kasalukuyan mong nararamdaman. Nadadala ka lang sa matatamis nyang mensahe.

He spent money to fly and see me,he puts a lot of time talkin to me and to the point of leaving his live in gf ( but they werent in good terms at those times too.fights,arguement s etc...)


dito pa lang sa sinabi mo, di pa sya natatapos sa isang relasyon, naghahanap na sya ng ipapalit. Very challenging itong situasyon para sa kanya, dahil kaya pala nyang mag agaw ng asawa ng iba, baka itapon ka rin nya in the end, pag isipan mong mabuti.

PM kita.

Autumn
12-19-2006, 11:10 PM
salamat Dax at nikkichibi:) . Kanina kausap ko iyong bf ko at gusto nyang malaman kung ano na na ba ang nangyayari.Kasi bago ako magtanong ng Divorce sa asawa ko.Palagi kami halos araw araw kaming naguusap tungkol sa Plano namin na umuwi na lang ako sa pinas ant uuwi sya at papakasalan nya ako at iaaply namin ng spouse visa. Pero ngayon, tanong sya ng tanong kung ano ba ang sagot ko. A part of me wants to stayhere and a part of me wants to go there with me and start a new life. Hindi ko masabi sa kanya na gusto ko munang bigyan ng chance ang asawa ko at tignan kung anong mangyayari. Pero sabi nya pag ang naging desisyon ko daw ay bigyan ng chance ang asawa ko at manatili muna dito sabi nya mas mainam daw na wag na kaming magkausap,magtawagan ,magkita sa webcam o magsulatan.idedelete na rin daw nya ang lahat ng pictures ko o alaala kasi mahihirapan lang daw sya na makapagmove on at makalimutan ako.pag nakita raw nya ang picture ko,magdaydreaming lang daw ang mangyayari sa kanya. Gustong gusto nya talaga ko at pangarap nya talaga ang makapagasawa ng Asian na katulad ko.Gandang ganda sya sa akin at wala pa raw syang naging gf na katulad ko. Pinagyayabang nga nya ako sa mga kaibigan nya,sa pamilya nya at sa trabaho nya.Halos lahat na yata ng tao sa lugar nya eh kilala na ako dahil pinapakita nya ang picture ko.Sya naman ay magandalang lalaki din,37 lang sya.divorce na rin dati at nong makilala ko sya ay may kalive in sya for 3 yrs. may bahay silang biniling dalawa at kagamitan pero hindi na rin maayos ang pagsasama nila kasi sa mga naging pagaaway nila.tapos nakilala nya ako sa chat at nung makita pa lang nya ang picture ko eh, napahanga at nagustuhan nya na talaga ako.nong time na yon malungkot ako at di masaya sa buhay mayasawa. nangailangan ako ng karinyo,loving loving pero wala. naging magkaibigan kami,usap usap hanggang magkagustuhan.tapos nakipaghiwalay sya sa live in gf nya at pinuntahan ako sa pinas at nagbakasyon kami.in lab na inlab talaga sya .sa tingin ko mas mahal nya ako kesa sa mahal ko sya.ganon din ako sa asawa ko.
ngayon, gusto na nyang malaman kung ano na ang desisyon ko.sabi ko binigay ko ang papel sa asawa ko pero ayaw nya pa kakong pumirma at humihingi kako ng chance. sabi naman nya pipirma din daw yon basta wag ko na raw paasahin.kaso sa tingin ko dapat lang bigyan ng chance ang asaw ko kasi wala namang pinakitang masama sa akin.sabi nya akala ko ba di mo na mahal ang asawa mo at di ka na masaya kaya gusto mo na talagang makipaghiwalay.sabi nya ano ba talalga ?
Di ko rin alam kung ano ang dapat sabihin sa kanya.ayoko rin kasing masaktan sya at parang ayoko rin na di ko na sya makausap.di ko alam kung ano ang dapat kung sabihin sa kanya para di naman sya masaktan.ayoko rin namang paasahinn pero gusto ko rin sana syang makasam.nalilito ako .alam ko minsan lang din kasi ito darating a buhay ko at pag pinili ko ang husband ko siguradong mawawala na sya sa buhay ko. mabait ang asawa ko pero di na kami sweet,di na kami nagsesex at para bang wala na rin akong gana makipagx sa kanya.
iyong bf ko naman syempre kilig kilig pa kami at napakarami sana ng plano rin namin.papano kung di naman magwork out ang marriage o dito at pagsisihan ko ang desisyon ko na palayain na lang iyong bf ko.hay,,,pagibig.bak it pa kasi ako nahumaling sa chat sa kanya.nagkainlaban tuloy kami at masyadong naging seryoso.tulong naman.saklolo....... ......:(

kung ngayon pa lang eh sangkaterba na yun "PAPAANO" dyan sa isip mo ..sa palagay ko hindi mo talaga mahal yan lover mo..dahil ang tunay na nag mamahal walang kinatatakutan..
huwag kang maawa sa asawa mo kung wala ka nang pag mamahal sa kanya..mas nakakaawa sya pag nanatili ka sa tabi nya eh hindi ka naman faithful at loveless ka na para sa asawa mo diba..?
isipin mo munang maigi kung ano ba gusto mo sa buhay..dahil baka mamaya pareho lang sila mawala sa buhay mo PAPAANO ka na naman ...?

masarap mag mahal at minamahal oo alam ko yun.. kaya lang kaya mo bang dalhin sarili mo? alam mo kaya ang pinatutunguhan mo..?
cool down midnight san..:)
good luck

docomo
12-19-2006, 11:33 PM
@Midnight

Marriage can be the best/worst thing to happen to us can't it?
I am sorry you are going through this situation .It sounds like a very difficult place to be...

You know, there was something you brought up that made me think,even for a second,that you should try to work this out with your husband...you two need some time finding yourselves and each other again.
Rough patches in a marriage is common (and normal). Be sure to set a day aside without any distractions and sort through your feelings with your husband ..give him the chance to do the same.. Get everything out and discuss what you can do to fix things.If the talking isn't helping, sometimes a third party can help.Marriage counseling is a great idea if you are still at the point where a reconciliation will work. If not, get some personal counseling.

Cycles in our lives can last longer than we anticipate when we're younger. Cycles can last for months or years, not just days or weeks.

My prayers are with you that you will find your way back to him. :)

poulain
12-20-2006, 12:30 AM
sa una lang yan kapatid......mawawal a rin yan.....hanggat pwede pa iwasan, iwasan mo na sya, hanggat hindi pa kyo kasal, hanggat wala pa syang karapatan sayo,.....wala ka namang problema eh............

ano po bang advise ang gusto nyo?
kasi naibigay na po lahat ng tao dito...nasa sa inyo na yun kung ano ang pipiliin nyo. sa sarili mo alam mo ang tama. yun ang gawin mo.

alam mo midnigth, hwag ka sanang magagalit pero ikaw na rin ang sumagot sa sarili mong katanungan. Sinasabi mong naguguluhan, pero para sa akin hindi ka naguguluhan, kundi ipinipilit mo lang ang kasalukuyan mong nararamdaman. Nadadala ka lang sa matatamis nyang mensahe.

He spent money to fly and see me,he puts a lot of time talkin to me and to the point of leaving his live in gf ( but they werent in good terms at those times too.fights,arguement s etc...)


dito pa lang sa sinabi mo, di pa sya natatapos sa isang relasyon, naghahanap na sya ng ipapalit. Very challenging itong situasyon para sa kanya, dahil kaya pala nyang mag agaw ng asawa ng iba, baka itapon ka rin nya in the end, pag isipan mong mabuti.

PM kita.
pingpong.:D

yeah sis, since medyo bago pa lang kayo, syempre natural na hot pa kayo noh.. imagine yourself with your current bf, and think of the consequences, your future with him and everything, then think of your hubby na sobrang bait [sabi mo] how was it to be with him, kaya mo kaya i-sacrifice lahat for your current bf?? kaya mo po ba i-give up yung lifestyle mo ngayon??and since puro DAW pa lang si boyfriend, sa tingin mo po ba yung mga "DAW" or promises nya magagawa nya?? hanggang kailan kaya kayo SWEET?? eh what if yung bf mo nagayon ang nagkaganyan, magpalit kayo, iwan ka nya, dahil may bago na naman sya nakitang magandang chix, tapos ikaw love na love mo na sya, anong gagawin mo??

.. kung naguguluhan ka pa rin po, magpray po kayo.. and look ang dami nag-advise, nandyan na lahat sabi nga ni IT,

.. but if you think you can just throw away that 8years being with your hubby, then go on, do what you want.. ITS YOUR CHOICE. peace* :)

majasnjn
12-20-2006, 12:47 AM
Since wala naman kayong anak ng asawa nyo at sa tingin nyo hindi nyo na talaga sya mahal at awa nalang ang nararamdaman nyo e, kagaya nga po ng sinabi ni autumn san, e, mas magandang hiwalayan nyo na asawa nyo kasi mas lalong nakakaawa lang sya kung mag stay pa kayo sa kanya..Wish nyo nalang na makatagpo sya ng babaeng magmamahal sa kanya ng panghabang buhay.."Pero bago nyo gawin ang makipag hiwalay", (kagaya nga ng sinabi nila) mag isip kayo ng kahit hanggang "200x" na hindi nyo na ba talaga mahal ang asawa nyo?Wala ka bang pagsisihan sa bandang huli..Ang pag sisi pa naman ay laging nasa huli..Kaya mag isip po tayo ng maigi bago gumawa ng hakbang..At yung bf nyo ngayon hindi nyo pa nakikilala ng lubusan, hindi pakayo nag sasama sa isang bahay ng matagal kaya hindi nyo pa alam kung anong masamang ugali meron yon unlike sa husband nyo na kilalang kilala nyo na..masasabi kolang po base na rin sa pag describe nyo sa husband nyo.. Napaka swerte nyo sa asawa nyo!Mahirap na makatagpo ng ganyang lalaki sa mundo.Pati family nyo i minahal at sinusoportahan..Maga ganda po yung advise nila sa inyo sana po ay maliwanagan kayo....

meteor
12-20-2006, 01:06 AM
(Painful Realities)
*loving a person too much
*having the right love at the wrong time
*hiding your relationship from someone else
*saying i love you when you mean it and when you don't

All you can do is stand up for what you believe in, regardless of who's ...
do some soul searching ....about wants vs. need
A need is something that you have to have. A want is something you would like to have.
As the saying goes "One must learn to love oneself before one can learn to love others.
" But oftentimes, we forget ourselves when we love someone so much.

midnight
12-20-2006, 01:24 AM
maraming maraming salamat sa mga nagaadvise sa akin dito sa tf.i really appreciate it.
Ngayon, gusto ko talagang bigyan ng chance ang asaw ko dahil gusto nya nagmagstart ulit kami.Ngayon paguwi nya,binalita nya sa akin na nagresearch daw sya tungkol sa bahay at gusto nyang bumili ng bahay para sa amin dito sa Japan.Binili rin nya ako ng lupat bahay sa pinas at nakatira doon ang mga mahal ko sa buhay. Gusto nya bumili ng bahay kasi parang malas daw itong bahay namin kasi nga sa sitwasyon namin.Nagresearch daw sya at malapit lang din dito sa bahay namin ang future house kung bibili sya.Tapos payag na rin sya sa hiling ko na bumili ng aso kasi nga wala naman kaming anak.

Now my problem is ano at paano ko kaya sasabihin sa bf ko na gusto ko na muna bigyan ng chance ang marriage namin.Sabi nya kasi,hindi na daw kami maguusap,dedelete na lahat ng memories etc...KAsi masasaktan lang daw sya ng husto at di sya makakapagmove on.Paano ko kaya sasabihin ng hindi naman sya masyadon g masaktan? MArami na rin kasi kaming plano pagnagkasama kami at naging excited rin kami sa mga pinagpaplanohan nya. Parang kawawa din naman tapos magpapasko pa.Paano ko kaya sasabihin na hindi naman nya ako kamuhian? MAsakit din kasi sa damdamin kasi mula pa nung April up to now araw araw kaming magkausap,tapos umuwi pa sya para makasama ako ng mga ilang linggo rin.Sabi nya napakasaya raw nya ng mga panahon na yon at alam nyang magiging maligaya daw sya sa akin at ako rin daw sa kanya.
turuan nyo naman ako kung paano ang magandang salita sa kanya.:(

midnight
12-20-2006, 01:26 AM
atsaka bakit kaya ganon,parang hindi pa ako handang makipagintimate sa asawa ko at magsweet sweet sa kanya ? ganito ba talaga. used to be makulit ako at mmasweet sweet sa kanya kahit na ako na lang palagi.ngayon parang wala pa ako sa mood magsweety sweety sa kanya.

At hindi pa rin sya gumagawa ng hakbang para maglambing ng konti sa akin o maginvite tungkol sa x. ? pero sabi nya,mahal daw nya ako at kahit na nakapawagamama ko ay "suki" daw nya ako. iyak nga sya ng iyak sa phone nug tumawag ako sa kanya bago kami magusap tungkol sa divorce.

Dax
12-20-2006, 01:28 AM
midnight san,

Someone said: "Advice is what we ask for when we already know the answer but wish we didn't."

I think it's true. Please, stop for a while...and listen to everyone's advice. :)

docomo
12-20-2006, 01:47 AM
atsaka bakit kaya ganon,parang hindi pa ako handang makipagintimate sa asawa ko at magsweet sweet sa kanya ? ganito ba talaga. used to be makulit ako at mmasweet sweet sa kanya kahit na ako na lang palagi.ngayon parang wala pa ako sa mood magsweety sweety sa kanya.

At hindi pa rin sya gumagawa ng hakbang para maglambing ng konti sa akin o maginvite tungkol sa x. ? pero sabi nya,mahal daw nya ako at kahit na nakapawagamama ko ay "suki" daw nya ako. iyak nga sya ng iyak sa phone nug tumawag ako sa kanya bago kami magusap tungkol sa divorce.


I guess it will take time...for now ,just enjoy everyday and let the relationship build. :)

mOtt_erU
12-20-2006, 02:37 AM
hi midnight san:)

piece of advice lang, take your time...wag mong madaliin ang mga bagay-bagay o pwersahin ang sarili mo....take one step at a time...kung una bibigyan mo ng chance ang husband mo,eh di yun muna.... tapos saka mo nalang isunod yung pag oOpen-up sa kanya ng mga bagay na gusto mo sabihin o baguhin... paghintayin mo yang bf mo.....kahit abutin pa ng ilang buwan.... at sana wag ka muna makikipagchat sa kanya o makipagcommunicate ...para naman hindi ka maguluhan.. tska sabi nga sa kasabihan "kung ukol, bubukol...." basta wag ka lang magmamadali......... dahil buhay, happiness at future mo ang nakasalalay dito....kaya hindi pwdeng pagdesisyunan to ng madalian...

....wag ka magagalit ha midnight san, alam mo okey naman makiipagchat, kaso inallow mo kaseng madivert kung loneliness & feeling of emptiness na akala mo nahanap mo sa BF mo na naging rason kaya nafell ka sa kanya...tapos dahil nga sa hindi showy o sweet yung husband mo eh namiss mo yung "kilig, sweetness at atensyon" na nafeel mo naman sa BF mo.....pero kahit saang anggulo pa ring tignan....mali eh--- dahil may asawa ka..unfair yun sa part ng asawa mo, kahit ba unhappy ka sa Marriage...
sana don't risk your marriage para lang sa tao na hindi mo pa ganoon kakilala, kahit ba matagal na kayong nagchachat at nagkita na kayo at tingin mong alam mo na ang lahat tungkol sa kanya...at kahit ba sobrang inLove kayo ngayon.....wala pa din kaseng KASIGURADUHAN....mah irap yan... kung ayaw mong magsisi sa huli eh pag-isipan mo mabuti ang mga gagawin mong desisyon.... dahil yang desisyon na yan ang magdedetermine kung anong buhay ang magkakaroon ka....
Godbless you & keep on Praying...

ayumi
12-20-2006, 03:27 AM
hi midnight san,
hindi ko nabasa lahat pero naintindihan ko nararamdaman mo..
halos lahat ng advice dito TAMA.Kaya wala na akong ma-i-advise sa 'yo.

malungkot talaga 'pag walang anak lalo na 'pag busy din lagi ang hubby mo..
..para kang nangangapa sa dilim..(I know you understand what I mean)

6 years married na walang anak? ako times 2...12 years married na walang anak.
..pero andito pa rin ako sa tabi ng hubby ko,parang bagong kasal pa rin...
minsan,nakikipag-chat din ako kung kanikanino,wala lang..nag-tatanggal ng pagod
habang tinatanggalan ako ng patay na buhok ng hubby ko,nanliligaw na yung ka-chat ko
'di nya alam,pati hubby ko nakakabasa sa message nya,pero alam ng hubby ko,
'di ako nadadala sa mga salita dahil mataas ang respeto ko sa sarili ko(pride ba yon?)

bata ka pa siguro midnight san,kaya nadadala ka sa mga sinasabi ng BF mo.

sabi ng lola ko ,sa buhay ng mag-asawa maraming tukso na darating,
pero me isang napakatinding tukso na napakahirap hindian,
siguro yan yung dumating sa 'yo.

ang pinaka umpisa ng problema mo sa nakikita ko is WALANG ANAK,then pumasok
yung BOREDOM tapos naghanap ng aliw(chat)...since masyado kang transparent
kaya nakuha yung weakness mo,,PRESTO! nasungkit ka nya....

one direct advise...STAY with your HUBBY...GET A JOB...BE BUSY...PRAY...LOVE yourself...
WAIT...just WAIT...and you'll see something GOOD..BETTER...comes along...
in your LIFE from ABOVE...who knows what's best for you...

midnight
12-20-2006, 03:54 AM
maraming salamat talaga sa inyong lahat na nagbuhos ng panahon para basahin itong napakahabang nobela ko at napakagulong pagiisip dahil sa pag-ibig..:D .tumawa na ako sandali kasi parang lagi akong worried lately. I really appreciate all of the things youve been posting here. tanggap ko lahat ang sasabihin nyo sa akin ok. Sana wag kayong magsawa na magpayo at magbasa ng mga post ko.

Problema ko na lang kung paano ang pakikipagusap ko sa bf ko.masakit din kasi dahil marami na rin syang pinaplano at dream talaga nya ang katulad ko (ewan ko ba,lapitin talaga beauty ko..sorry if im bragging it pero nagsasabi lang ako ng totoo, hindi ako nagyayabang ha ) .Alam ko,he will be very devastated,ngayon pa lang nga na naguguluhan ako at nararamdaman nya eh,di na rin sya mapakali at makatulog ng maayos.he also lose his appetite. sana di ko sya masaktan ng husto kasi he is a very nice guy talaga.alam ko marami rin ang magkakagusto sa kanya dahil mayhitsura naman sya,37 lang,may stable job naman at napasweet nya talaga.importante rin talaga sa isang lalaki ang karinyoso kasi nakakalambot talaga ng puso. nung magkasama kami walang ginawa yon kundi haplosin ako ng haplosin.sweet talaga.mamimiss ko yon tsaka guwapo syempre at madali kaming magkaintindihan kasi no problem naman kasi English ang communication.Fluent din ang Japanese ko pero iba pa rin ang tagalog at english di ba,dahil mas alam natin ito.
Mamimiss ko sya talaga .Sabi nya kung di raw ako ang magiging asawa nya.baka pagdating daw ng panahon hahanap daw sya ng kamukha ko o pareho daw ng level ng beauty ko.Sabi nya sa susunod daw pag Asian raw talaga ang hahanapin nya.Pero sana naman daw mapangasawa nya raw ako dahil ako lang talaga hanggang sa huli ang mamahalin nya. Ako ang una nyang Asian gf lahat ng ex nya ay Puti tulad nya.
alam ko isang beses lang din darating sa buhay ko ang kagaya nya .sana di ako magsisi sa desisyon ko.:(

Inday_36
12-20-2006, 08:43 AM
Problema ko na lang kung paano ang pakikipagusap ko sa bf ko.masakit din kasi dahil marami na rin syang pinaplano at dream talaga nya ang katulad ko


midnigth san, BF ba ika mo? hindi mo sya bf, fling mo sya, kabit in tagalog, yan ang tamang term na dapat ipaalam sayo para magising ka.. matalino ka, at alam mo kung ano ang dapat na maging kasagutan sa lahat.

snsk76
12-20-2006, 09:20 AM
hindi biro ang makipag hiwalay lalo na kung ang hihiwalayan mo ay wala namang ginagawang masama sayo...pag isipan mong maige,hwag kang padalos dalos! nakakatakot kase ang karma...hindi mo pa masyadong kilala ang bf mo,kaya hindi ako sang-ayon kung hihiwalayan mo c hapon. kailangan mo ng space para makapag-isip,katulad ng cnabi ng isa nating ka TF ...umuwi ka ng pinas,wag mong kausapin c hapon at lalo na ang bf mo...timbangin mo kung cno b talaga ang mahalaga sa puso mo,kung sino b talaga ang mahal mo at kung cno b talaga ang gusto mong makasama habang buhay...sa lahat ng desisyon na gagawin mo,kailangan mong mag sakripisyo...hindi laging masaya at maginhawa ang buhay...pag isipan mo...good luck and GOD bless!

Dax
12-20-2006, 10:40 AM
Problema ko na lang kung paano ang pakikipagusap ko sa bf ko.mignight san...just say it! Kapag pinatagal mo pa mas lalong magiging mahirap sabihin. Just say what you need to say, don't make it long. Bigyan kita ng sample :p "I'm really sorry, but I have made a decision. I want to give our marriage a second chance. Good bye." Then log out from the chat, or end the call. If he sends e-mail or calls, ignore. Cut all forms of communication with him. No phone calls, no chat, no e-mails (don't even read his e-mails: block them), nothing, not even telepathy. :D If you don't do this, I don't think you and your hubby's "fresh start" will work. :O
Alam ko,he will be very devastated,ngayon pa lang nga na naguguluhan ako at nararamdaman nya eh,di na rin sya mapakali at makatulog ng maayos.he also lose his appetite.He might be devastated indeed, but it's not something that he hasn't expected. He knew right from the start that you are a married woman, someone else's beloved wife. Let him be devastated by something he started. Let him lose his appetite, I'm sure he won't kill himself through fasting. :D Let him take responsibility for his actions.

Good luck to you and your husband.

justmissin
12-20-2006, 11:01 AM
hindi na po siguro tayo bata para hindi malaman ang tama at mali.sa ngayon kinikilig kapa sa bago mo bf,pero pag tumagal na yan mawawala din yan baka mapalitan pa ng ginaw ang kilig mo dahil sa nag-iisa ka na lang.tama kung bibigyan mu ng chance ang asawa mu hindi dahil iniisip mo ang magiging buhay ng pamilya mu sa pinas kundi yung kung PAANO magwowork ang relationship nyo as husband and wife.at kung pinoproblema mu kung PAANO mu sasabihin sa bf mu yung desisyon mo,naisip mu ba nung sinabi mu sa asawa mu na gusto mo ng divorce eh pumasok ba sa isip mu na baka masaktan sya? kung mahal ka ng bf mo rerespetuhin ang desisyon mo.eh anu kung masaktan sya dun din naman ang punta nun.sana mahalin mo ang asawa mo ng buong puso mo. kung sya ang nagkukulang baket hindi ikaw ang gumawa ng paraan para maibalik ang dati.hindi kailangan puro lang tayo tanggap,tao rin yang asawa mu katulad mu.PAANO din kung sayo ginagawa ng asawa mo ang ginagawa mu sa kanya?? hindi ba masakit? sana maliwanagan ka at piliin mo ang tamang desisyon na hindi mu pagsisihan sa huli.Ingat po at always pray to GOD.

honey
12-20-2006, 11:14 AM
midnight

Bigyan mo ng chance ang asawa mo.Sabihin mo lahat ng ayaw mo para malaman nya at maayos nyo ang problema kayong 2 lang makakalutas nyan.Ang asawa mo kilala mo na at alam mo kung ano ang kiliti nya at kung paano mo sya mapapaamo.Bulag ka lang ngaun sa boyfriend mo kasi alam mo mahal mo sya pero panibagong simula nanaman yan at pakikipag sapalaran.Pag-isipan mong mabuti para hindi ka magkamali at magsisi sa huli.:(

kun ano man ang magiging disisyon mo pag-isipan mong mabuti GOODLUCK and PRAY.

noycoco
12-20-2006, 12:10 PM
hindi ko alam kung paano mag-umpisa...ano ka ba!!!! masyado mo yatang minadali ang mga desisyon mo kaagad....parang nagmadali ka sa mga pangyayar5i sa buhay mo....nakahingi ka na ng mga advices sa mga parents and friends mo pero itinuloy mo pa din ang pakikipag-usap sa husband mo, ayan nasaktan na tuloy siya...lalong lumabo medyo ang situwasyon na sana ay hindi pa dapat mangyari sana. ikaw naman nataranta na kaagad...bakit naman kasi nagmadali ka sa kasalan kay bf...parang bullet train yhata sa bilis ang gusto ninyo....parang ang dami mong iniisip sa magiging desisyon mo,....mainly ang nasa isip mo yata ang kaginhawahan....sa future....di mo ba naisip na hindi lahat kaginhawahan sa isang relasyon? kaya nga sugal iyan e....mahilig ka yatang tumaya, medyo alam mo na ang baraha ng asawa mo gusto mo pang maki taya sa ibang baraha....:)baka naman kaka taya mo mabokya ka niyan!(joke lang pinapatawa lang kita) tingin ko naman talagang hindi mo sigurado ang mga ginagawa mo ngayon ...di mo sigurado kung mahal mo ang bf mo....di modin sigurado kung di mo na mahal ang asawa mo. kasi kung sigurado ka e hindi ka na sana nalilito....wag mong lituhin ang sarili mo sa kung saan ka dapat maginhawa...wag mo ding lituhin ang sarili mo kung sino ang nakapag paligaya sa iyo at nakakadilig sa nauuhaw mong katawan!!!panandalia n lang yan... ang magtatagal ay ang kung ano ang nararamdaman ng puso mo.... ikaw lang ang makakasagot ng lahat ng tanong mo, humingi ka ng tulong sa "kanya", hindi ka niya pababayaan.... ...... (baka sign na iyong hindi ka nabigyan ng tourist visa sa canada... siguro yon ang sign....bihira lang kasi ang hindi nabibigyan ng visa diyan....) bago ako matulog ngayon...isasama kita sa dasal ko...:) sana magliwanag ang puso at isipan mo.

docomo
12-20-2006, 12:28 PM
Now my problem is ano at paano ko kaya sasabihin sa bf ko na gusto ko na muna bigyan ng chance ang marriage namin.


I think honesty is the best route. Just let him know that you aren't ready for a relationship, and you are sorry. Tell him you did not want to hurt him, so you wanted to be honest before it got any further.

Good luck.:)

april
12-20-2006, 12:52 PM
midnight...pagisipan mong mabuti palagay mo kaya kung kasal na
kayo magiging maganda ang relasyon nyo na nagumpisa sa mali.

adechan
12-20-2006, 02:37 PM
I am really too busy these days, though I can't help the silip silip ~~ and this thread really caught my attention.

Marami nang nagbigay nang payo ~~~ pero magdadadag pa rin ako. Pasensiya na.

Midnight, very dangerous and risky ang papasukin mo.

Napakaraming pag-ibig na nag-aalab sa umpisa, pero pag pinasok mo na doon mo pa lang malalaman ang tunay na mundo nang pinili mong pag-ibig.

Anim na taon ka nang kasal, may anak man kayo o wala, kristiyano man kayo pareho o hindi, mag-asawa pa rin kayo. At ang bf mo ay temptation para masira ang buhay may asawa mo. Masaya ka man o hindi sa asawa mo ngayon, hindi naman palaging ganoon di ba? Lalo na pag magaling naman pala siyang provider. Isipin mo iyan. You are already blessed. Hindi ka naman binububog. At kung boring ang night life nyo, (i know it before from other threads) hindi lang ikaw, ganyan talaga ang mga typical japanese dito.

Ngayon, kung pipiliin mo ang bf mo, panibagong atmosphere na naman, ibang tradition, ibang life style. At mukang may mga anak din ba siya? Anak ba niya iyung, kids there also in Canada? Kaya din bang ibigay nang bf mo ang life stability na kayang ibigay nang asawa mo? Magagawa mo pa rin ba ang mga gusto mong gawin pag sa bf mo, while you are free to do what you want dito sa asawa mo ngayon?

Pag sumama ka ba sa bf mo, magiging masaya ka dahil lagi mong maiisip ang ginawa mo sa asawa mo? Lalo na pag hindi mo sinabi ang tunay na dahilan.

Mas magandang makipaghiwalay ka sa asawa mo dahil hindi ka na masaya sa kanya, kesa dahil sa in love ka sa isang taong hindi mo pa gaanong kilala.

Remember that any kind of relationship, can really only be tested through the length of time. Some other people may not agree but I believe on the length of time.

Like other said, give yourself a time to find yourself again. At pag nakita mo na ang sarili mo ulit, duon ka mag decision.

Sa takbo nang isipan mo, at tibok na debdeb:p para kang sundalong lalaban sa giyera na kahit helmet man lang e wala kang dala, pag sumama ka kaagad sa bf mo.

adechan
12-20-2006, 02:45 PM
maraming maraming salamat sa mga nagaadvise sa akin dito sa tf.i really appreciate it.
Ngayon, gusto ko talagang bigyan ng chance ang asaw ko dahil gusto nya nagmagstart ulit kami.Ngayon paguwi nya,binalita nya sa akin na nagresearch daw sya tungkol sa bahay at gusto nyang bumili ng bahay para sa amin dito sa Japan.Binili rin nya ako ng lupat bahay sa pinas at nakatira doon ang mga mahal ko sa buhay. Gusto nya bumili ng bahay kasi parang malas daw itong bahay namin kasi nga sa sitwasyon namin.Nagresearch daw sya at malapit lang din dito sa bahay namin ang future house kung bibili sya.Tapos payag na rin sya sa hiling ko na bumili ng aso kasi nga wala naman kaming anak.

>>>>>

gomen may decision na fala:D

napakaganda nang proposal nang asawa mo === wow! galing.

like docomo said ~~~ BE HONEST.

mr.kuripot
12-20-2006, 06:39 PM
Tama ang naging desisyon mo sistah..buti nman at nalinawan ka hangang maaga pa:)..Sa inyo ni hubby wag mo madaliin na maibalik kaagad ang dati mas maganda slowly but surely diba;).Siguro kun may time sya mag out of town kayo,mag onsen,o kaya mag vacation sa ibang bansa para nman mag karoon kayo ng tym pra s isat isa makakatulong yun..Kami kasi ni hubby we always see to it na kahit may anak na kami ay mag karoon kami ng tym para sa isat isa once a month nag ti trip o onsen para maalis pareho ang stress namin..At next tym na magkakaproblema mas maganda na maging open kayo s isat isa:p

ayanis-marie
12-20-2006, 09:16 PM
midnight san.........I wish you the luck and happiness...
May you find yourself happier in the second time around.

Take it from me..............:) ..I'm happy now and more blessings
did came because of patience and prayers...
seyempre because of TF team..:)

Merry Christmas..

midnight
12-20-2006, 11:11 PM
hello mga katf:wave:
eto kauuwi lang namin ng asawa ko galing kami sa fudosan,dahil tinignan namin iyong mansion na balak ng asawa ko bilhin.natutuwa kami kasi ang ganda nung lugar at malapit pa sa lahat tulad ng eki,mall,gym,park,su permarket,hospital etc.. pagkatapos ay kumain sa yakiniku at parang unti unting nagiging naka ii na naman kami.sana nga lang ay di ko na isipisipin pa iyong nasa canada.hindi pa rin kasi kami naguusap tungkol sa magiging desisyon ko.kahapon at ngayong araw email lang ang naging way of communication namin.
nakakaawa naman,at parang wala pa akong lakas ng loob sabihin sa kanya. :(

again,thankyou very much sa mga katf ko.napakalaking tulong ang ibinibigay nyo sa akin. sana maging maayos lahat ang pamumuhay natin.loveyou all:)

aeroguy30
12-21-2006, 02:26 AM
In the Roman Catholic church the institution of holy matrimony was raised to the level of a sacrament because it was assigned a divine origin and made an indissoluble union typifying the union of Christ with his church as his mystical body (Matt. 5:27-32; Mark 10:2-12; Luke 16:18; I Cor. 7:2, 10; Eph. 5:23ff.) Marriage is regarded by the church as ordained by God and thus as indissoluble. It is also regarded as a lifelong sacred union that could be dissolved only by death of one of the spouses.

From my view of points the main factor I see that’s greatly affect your relationship with your “hubby” is lack of communication. You seldom communicate, and second, you don’t have a child. However, I do know a lot of couples who are childless but still contented and happy with their married life. It’s just a matter of give and take between you two.

“Whirlwind romance” that’s how I think happen to you and your boyfriend. He arrives at the time you were on your weakest point in life. You were looking for something, an emptiness in you that he fills the void. You got this idea that he will be your knight in shining armor that he will remedy all your problems. In addition, he is always there, communicating with you every day; giving you attention and importance. Attention that you haven’t experience with your hubby because of his business deals and being busy, not always around when you need him. He might be busy with his work so that he could provide you the best in life, a roof in you head, food and clothing. Japanese men are like this they seldom goof around they are always serious in their future. If the way you describe your hubby is true then he is an honest, sincere and dedicated. Especially the way he helps your family without asking for anything in return. That’s unselfishness on his part you should be thankful for that.

Now in comes of sex... which is taboo to mention here (hehehe) why not experiment. From what I understand of Japanese guys they love to play around in lovemaking. Use that to your advantage, just to perks up your sexual life and bring spice to it. For me I love to serenade my partner first by singing her favorite love songs and at the same time playing the guitar or the piano. With lighted scented candles filling the room and rose petals on the floor. I love the game we played, being blindfolded and tied down to the bed with matching feathers. Don’t forget the red wine and whipped cream (hehehe). Sometimes we dress up and act for the occasion. I love the teacher and student act.

Always remember in every relationship to work the three main factors must be there: (1) Love, (2) Trust and (3) Respect to one another. In conclusion give yourself and your hubby another chance. Work your differences and talk about it, and try to cut your communication with your boyfriend. If he truly respect and loves you like you mention he will understand and respect your decision. See what happens, don’t rush things by following your impulse and later regret your decision.

Remember in a divorce, only the spouses can really know the differences between them, and neglect of this distinction can produce reasoning by false analogy. Hope this help clear your mind and decision. Regardless the final decision is always yours alone to decide. God bless!

aeroguy30
12-21-2006, 02:28 AM
good luck and let the Lord guides you in your daily task... Take care and God bless! :):):)