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supa_freak
01-30-2007, 11:01 PM
http://meat.org/


paki panood po `tong video,napaka )(&#!)"!)"%!'"%'!%")!

it`s not a virus or anything that`s a nonsense.

NO TO ANIMAL ABUSE!

dcat
01-30-2007, 11:43 PM
http://meat.org/
paki panood po `tong video,napaka )(&#!)"!)"%!'"%'!%")!
it`s not a virus or anything that`s a nonsense.
NO TO ANIMAL ABUSE!

Hullo supa_freak :)
I agree that people should not be cruel to animals. But the opening logic of the video is out of range. It says, "once you've watch the video you'll understand why so many compassionate people decided to leave meat off their plates for good." I don't know what's the relationship between eating meat and animal cruelty. Is he telling us that if we don't eat meat cruelty to animals will stop? Well, that's just crazy logic - and totally unrealistic too!

These organizations often miss the point. If they want to raise awareness then they must learn to control their passions and give a balance and realistic assessment of the problem.

infinite_trial
01-31-2007, 01:02 AM
can we then ask vegetarians to stop wearin leather shoes?

supa_freak
01-31-2007, 04:14 PM
can we then ask vegetarians to stop wearin leather shoes?


sino po yung vegetarian na nagsusuot ng leather clothes,shoes???

MIMI
01-31-2007, 04:25 PM
ano b yan! sumama pakiramdam ko nung nakita ko'to, kakaawa naman :(

infinite_trial
01-31-2007, 04:37 PM
sino po yung vegetarian na nagsusuot ng leather clothes,shoes???
nevermind, it's supposed to be a rhetorical question.

supa_freak
01-31-2007, 04:40 PM
Hullo supa_freak :)
I agree that people should not be cruel to animals. But the opening logic of the video is out of range. It says, "once you've watch the video you'll understand why so many compassionate people decided to leave meat off their plates for good." I don't know what's the relationship between eating meat and animal cruelty. Is he telling us that if we don't eat meat cruelty to animals will stop? Well, that's just crazy logic - and totally unrealistic too!

These organizations often miss the point. If they want to raise awareness then they must learn to control their passions and give a balance and realistic assessment of the problem.


hello po,
i agree.mali yung opening nu`ng video.
I don`t say na let`s stop eating meat,I know it`s a difficult thing to do,especially meat is one of the main sources ng energy natin.We can`t just switch to be vegetarians.I myself,eat meat ,but after seeing that video,i just can`t ignore it and go on eating.

To think kung pano nila tratuhin yung mga hayop,parang bagay,yung baka,binitin sa isang paa,winagwag,sinaksa k.Yung piglets,hinampas hampas,papatayin na nga lang.Tinutusok tusok,sinisipa sipa,binabato bato.We can`t just let the meat industry continue treating the animals like that,even they are worth just for eating.So i think,mababawasan yung animal cruelty,if we won`t buy their goods.Especially yung mga cheap meat na imported.

dcat
01-31-2007, 09:07 PM
We can`t just let the meat industry continue treating the animals like that,even they are worth just for eating.So i think,mababawasan yung animal cruelty,if we won`t buy their goods.Especially yung mga cheap meat na imported.
Hullo supa_freak :)
I understand your sincere concern, but who's meat are we suppose to refrain from eating? We cannot say that all cheap meat from abroad are produced by cruel people. The video depicts all men working in the poultry industry are cruel, but evidently, this not true. There are poultry workers who are cruel and violent, while there are also those who love the animals they tend to. They are just like you and me going about their daily lives trying to find a living. What will happen to them when their work place shuts down?

You see, the moment we go to the extreme is the moment when all the good causes we strive to achieve get distorted. Refraining from eating meat will not stop cruelty to animals. It is only the passage of and the strict enforcement of laws against animal cruelty that will do that job.

Firipinjin
02-01-2007, 12:01 AM
Back in the Philippines, I have seen for myself a 'Swift' chicken grower (contractor for swift foods). It was clean and organized. The chickens were well fed (not overfed as what was shown in the video) and given vitamins to keep them healthy. The owner maintains it this way because it was his livelihood and Swift corporation required them to maintain a certain standard.

The video shown is obviously a propaganda by the 'vegetarians' who own the website. They have carefully picked out the most cruel videos taken of the supposedly inhumane way of slaughtering these animals. There are many livestock, hog, and cattle raisers in the western world. Some of them are terribly inhumane but I think a lot are not representative of what was shown.

mOtt_erU
02-01-2007, 08:43 AM
hi supa_freak san,,thanks for sharing that video,..nakakalungko t , nakaka-awa at t karimarimarim talaga ginawa nila sa mga hayop sa video na yan,.....:(

pero tingin ko wala namang masama sa pagkain ng meat....at hindi ito dapat ipagbawal o ipatigil.....ang MALI ay pamamaraan ng mga taong gumagawa ng ganyan sa mga slaughter house....kahit ba hayop ang kakatayin nila EH hindi naman makahayop pamamaraan nila...sila ang dapat patigilin....haaaaay magluluto pa naman ako ng Sinigang....sana maayos naman ang pinagdaanan ng kakainin kong babOy....:p

supa_freak
02-01-2007, 05:55 PM
hi supa_freak san,,thanks for sharing that video,..nakakalungko t , nakaka-awa at t karimarimarim talaga ginawa nila sa mga hayop sa video na yan,.....:(

pero tingin ko wala namang masama sa pagkain ng meat....at hindi ito dapat ipagbawal o ipatigil.....ang MALI ay pamamaraan ng mga taong gumagawa ng ganyan sa mga slaughter house....kahit ba hayop ang kakatayin nila EH hindi naman makahayop pamamaraan nila...sila ang dapat patigilin....haaaaay magluluto pa naman ako ng Sinigang....sana maayos naman ang pinagdaanan ng kakainin kong babOy....:p


oo nga po!dapat karmahin yung mg tao na yun!dapat sila pakulaan sa mainit na tubig ng buhay!sana sila mahuli ng mga taong kumakain ng tao,sila makatay

pero ndi ko sinabi na wag kumain ng meat,gusto ko po matigil yung animal abuse.nag suggest lang po ako na wag bilin yung meat na imported kasi puro yung profits lang nila ang iniintindi nila.Pag walang silbi yung piglets,pag mabagal lumaki,binabalibag balibag nila bago patayin.
un lang po yung idea ko.:)

supa_freak
02-01-2007, 06:01 PM
Hullo supa_freak :)
I understand your sincere concern, but who's meat are we suppose to refrain from eating? We cannot say that all cheap meat from abroad are produced by cruel people. The video depicts all men working in the poultry industry are cruel, but evidently, this not true. There are poultry workers who are cruel and violent, while there are also those who love the animals they tend to. They are just like you and me going about their daily lives trying to find a living. What will happen to them when their work place shuts down?

You see, the moment we go to the extreme is the moment when all the good causes we strive to achieve get distorted. Refraining from eating meat will not stop cruelty to animals. It is only the passage of and the strict enforcement of laws against animal cruelty that will do that job.


may point ka po.my bad.
pero mostly sa tingin ko yung imported meat,sa kakaisip nila ng profit nila ,maramihan gawa,yung walang kwenta pinapatay,katulad na lang nung piglets sa video.
tsaka naiintindihan ko po na trabaho lang nila yung ginagawa nila,pero ndi po ba napaka sama nung pag trato nila ?

supa_freak
02-01-2007, 06:10 PM
Back in the Philippines, I have seen for myself a 'Swift' chicken grower (contractor for swift foods). It was clean and organized. The chickens were well fed (not overfed as what was shown in the video) and given vitamins to keep them healthy. The owner maintains it this way because it was his livelihood and Swift corporation required them to maintain a certain standard.

The video shown is obviously a propaganda by the 'vegetarians' who own the website. They have carefully picked out the most cruel videos taken of the supposedly inhumane way of slaughtering these animals. There are many livestock, hog, and cattle raisers in the western world. Some of them are terribly inhumane but I think a lot are not representative of what was shown.



.I think that video was broadcasted to make people see how some meat industries treat the animals.Para saken po ,ndi po yun paninira.Ginawa po yon,in my opinion para i broadcast yung bagay bagay na ndi alam ng ibang tao,tulad ko

dcat
02-01-2007, 07:29 PM
may point ka po.my bad.
pero mostly sa tingin ko yung imported meat,sa kakaisip nila ng profit nila ,maramihan gawa,yung walang kwenta pinapatay,katulad na lang nung piglets sa video.
tsaka naiintindihan ko po na trabaho lang nila yung ginagawa nila,pero ndi po ba napaka sama nung pag trato nila ?
dear supa_freak :)

Naiintindihan ko na violente sa mga alaga ang mga taong nasa video. Pero hindi natin pwedeng sabihin lahat ng nasa poultry industry ay masama magtrato ng mga alaga nila. Ang problema kasi, supa_freak, hindi balance ang video. Kahit ikaw sa palagay ko naapektohan ka ng video, at iniisip mo na ganyan lahat ng poultry workers. Pero tulad nga natin, may mga mabagsik at mababait din sa atin. Kahit saan meron ang mga ganyan - mabagsik at violente. Pero hindi natin dapat parusahan ang lahat sa pamamagitan ng hindi natin pagbili ng mga produkto nila. Kailangan parati natin iniisip kung meron ba tayong nasasagasaang ibang tao na wala naman kinalaman sa lahat nakalagay dun sa video. :)

fremsite
02-01-2007, 07:50 PM
http://meat.org/


paki panood po `tong video,napaka )(&#!)"!)"%!'"%'!%")!

it`s not a virus or anything that`s a nonsense.

NO TO ANIMAL ABUSE!

uh-oh ~~~ can't watch the video ... hindi ko po yata kaya .. :(

summergirl
02-01-2007, 09:30 PM
sorry hindi ko natapos ang video naawa ako,i love animals kaya hindi ko natagalan.

proud me
02-01-2007, 09:33 PM
hindi ko kayang manood ng ganyan....:(